Talk:Beerware

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I am sure if it fits here. I am a website and I would like to license the content under this license(beerware)? Does it fit? Would be glad about any response

Sure, go ahead. Ashibaka tock 21:11, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Under 21

So, I guess people under 21 can't "register" beerware? =P 'FL a RN'(talk) 01:23, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sure they can! I was buying alcohol when I was eighteen. In some countries you can even do it from as young as six. —Felix the Cassowary 11:49, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The answer is, of course, in the license itself. The license reads "if we meet some day" and not "we must meet before you're eighteen". ;) Jaho (talk) 22:31, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But it also doesn't read "we must not meet before you're eighteen"... -82.80.23.45 (talk) 12:34, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Which license is a joke?

Does Poul-Henning Kamp think that beerware is a joke, or GPL is a joke? I'm guessing it's the former.

Poul-Henning Kamp's beerware license is simple and short, in contrast to the GPL which he has described as a "joke".

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.26.180.119 (talk • contribs) 20:48, 6 August 2008

No, the article is correct in this, Poul-Henning Kamp considers GPL a joke. Jaho (talk) 22:22, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion

The deletion notice is too complicated and a newbie like me does not know what to do with it. It states that I can not delete it and refers me to discussion - "Feel free to edit the article, but the article must not be blanked, and this notice must not be removed, until the discussion is closed. For more information, particularly on merging or moving the article during the discussion, read the Guide to deletion." However there is not discussion about deletion, no reasons nothing. :-( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.85.224.74 (talk) 18:18, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Deletion discussion is currently occurring at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beerware -- RoninBK _{T C} 18:33, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Description

Do we really need this? It adds little that isn't already in the license, which is pretty easy to read. Except the "(or, in some variations, drink a beer in the author's honor)", which isn't sourced. Jontajonta (talk) 05:34, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

History, "Shareware Beerware"

This article is bit too narrow. Beerware hails from the 80s and 90s shareware scene with all the wacky variants ranging from cardware to, yes, beerware. In fact, the term Beerware is mentioned on the Computerworld in 1991 (Patricia Keefe: "Pay-up Time for Shareware", Computerworld, 1 Apr. 1991, p. 39.).

This also ties into above, because that particular piece reads:

"There's one guy who has 'smileware.' Payment consists of smiling at someone. Another guy has 'beerware'. He only asks that you have a beer and send him a postcard saying so," [Paul] Pease chuckled.

– Tommi, 06:52, 4 October 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:14BA:1E00:0:E7DE:B4A5:F57C:E46A (talk)

Possible citogenesis with howtogeek.com

I was redirected from another discussion, but after looking at source 3 (howtogeek.com article), it seems to me that Beerware cites howtogeek.com which in turn cites Beerware recursively. Would this fall under Citogenesis? SmallMender (talk) 20:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, please remove any information based on howtogeek. PhotographyEdits (talk) 21:02, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. The diff is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Beerware&diff=prev&oldid=1235836301

I also reworded the lead text, because neither the license nor comments from sources talking about the license mention anything about the (compiled) program, but speak strictly about the source code. SmallMender (talk) 13:31, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Remove the reference to the Fedora wiki?

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing/Beerware is used as one of the sources for the article, however:

- the text looks like a rewording of https://web.archive.org/web/20160322002352/http://www.cs.trincoll.edu/hfoss/wiki/Chris_Fei:_Beerware_License (already added as a source and more reliable)

- The wiki falls under user-generated content according to WP:RS (anyone able to log in can edit the page) SmallMender (talk) 14:07, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Beerware&diff=prev&oldid=1237348305 SmallMender (talk) 09:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! PhotographyEdits (talk) 10:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Beerware name origin

While digging for additional secondary sources on the Beerware license, I came across this claim repeated in blog posts:

The term was invented by John Bristor in Pensacola, Florida on April 25, 1987, and the first software distributed using the Beerware licensing model was uploaded to a number of BBSs in 1987 and 1988. Many variations on the beerware model have been created since that time.

The problem is, I can't find the original source of this claim. Several sources are mentioned in the AfD discussion, but there I also can't anything specific beside passing references about "beerware" as a software license. SmallMender (talk) 15:10, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]