Talk:Battle of Ibera

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Review: September 6, 2020. (Reviewed version).

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Dertosa / Ibera / Hibera

While it is obviously fine and factual that Ibera became Dertosa, I think the article needs to pick one name and stick with it. Essentially, on the first mention, explain the alternative name, but thereafter, always use one. At the moment, Ibera is used three times in the prose, and Dertosa four or five times. Note that we also have the article at Hibera, another little twist... Harrias ^talk 14:40, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Harrias, you fancy moving it to "Battle of Ibera"? Far and away the most common usage among the sources. A couple go with Dertosa - the older sources by the older authors - and Hoyos idiosyncratically uses Hibera. I decline to be responsible for what other editors write in other articles. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:50, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fancy doing it yourself? Harrias ^talk 14:55, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Harrias, I have always preferred to have other people do it for me. Looks as if that option has been removed. And: "experienced", fair enough; but if anyone else realises that you have described me as "trusted" you could be in trouble. I shall let you know how I get on. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:01, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I went with 'trusted not to break anything on purpose' rather than 'trusted not to accidentally foul it up'... But you seem to have managed ;) Harrias ^talk 15:06, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 01:59, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looks interesting, and you recently reviewed one of my noms, so I'll give this one a look. Hog Farm _Bacon 01:59, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As always, willing to discuss any and all of these, as I'm probably wrong.

Lead

I think you should directly state which war this was fought in somewhere in the lead. In fact, "Second Punic War" is only mention in the short description, the infobox, the references, and the navboxes.

Very good point. Fixed.

" Both sides are reported to have suffered heavy casualties, the Carthaginians' may have been very heavy" - I'd use a semicolon instead of a comma here, not sure if this is a grammar thing or a stylistic preference though

Done.

Primary sources

"Livy, who relied heavily on Polybius[8]," - punctuation before ref

Done.

Pre-war

"The First Punic War was fought between Carthage and Rome, the two main powers of the western Mediterranean in the 3rd century BC struggled for supremacy primarily on the Mediterranean island of Sicily and its surrounding waters, and also in North Africa" - Something seems to have gone awry in this sentence

Yep - I messed up the punctuation. Try it now.

" In spring 219 BC Rome declared war on Carthage." - I'm probably wrong/ignorant on this, but I thought that this happened in 218 BC? I was also taught the Lost Cause of the Confederacy as historical fact in school growing up, so the textbook's accuracy on pre-Christian event may be suspect, too.

War was formally declared on the floor of the Carthaginian Senate by the Roman Fabius. My 219 BC was a typo. Careless of me not to have picked it up on copy edit. Thanks for being on the ball.

Carthage invade Italy

Link the Rhone

Done.

Opposing forces

Skirmishers is overlinked

Fixed.

Aftermath

Maybe fully introduce who Lazenby and Bagnall are? First mentions of them are just by last names. Bagnall also has an author-link, so you can link him

Oops. I think I edited out earlier mentions. Thanks. Fixed.

"On at least one occasion the Scipios complained to the senate regarding this lack of reinforcement" - Should Senate be capitalized here, as it's referring specifically to the Roman Senate?

Debatable. Done, but I am honestly a bit unsure how the MoS applies here.

Nice work. Placing on hold. Hog Farm _Bacon 00:32, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hog Farm: thanks for that. All done. Gog the Mild (talk) 10:27, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]