Talk:Bagger 293

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SRs 8000

RB293 is a particular machine of the type SRs 8000. They are not two different excavators. Therefore I removed the confusing statement that SRs 8000 is now the biggest excavator instead of RB293.

The confusion may have been caused by the English version of the TAKRAF website. The German version is clearer:

'The biggest machine built, the Tenova TAKRAF SRs 8000, has a weight of 14.200 t and moves 240,000 m³ of overburden per day.' [1] versus
'Der größte Schaufelradbagger ist der Tenova TAKRAF SRs 8000 (RB 293). Bei einem Gewicht von 14.200 t bewegt er 240.000 m³ Abraum pro Tag.' [2]

Requested move

MAN Takraf RB293 → Bagger 293 — Reasons for the requested move: "Bagger 293" would be a better title because that name is used by the current owner (RWE) of the machine, and because "Man Takraf RB293" is an odd mixture of outdated names.

A few years ago "Man Takraf" (the manufacturer) changed its name to "Takraf".
A few years ago Rheinbraun (the previous owner) was overtaken by RWE, and the new owner refers to the excavator as Bagger 293 without the outdated initials RB.
The name "Man Takraf RB293" is odd because it mixes the manufacturer and the initials of the owner into one name.
In addition the proposed name would be more consistent with a similar article about its little brother, Bagger 288.
(May be the requested move is complicated by the fact that at present there is a redirection the other way around. Three pages ("RB293", "Takraf RB293", and "Bagger 293") are currently redirecting to "Man Takraf RB293"). Ceinturion (talk) 21:13, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Google Images

As an external source? WTF? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.165.230 (talk) 21:34, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IPC

Some of the IPC entries in this article are irrelevant (about a different topic) or inadequately referenced. I propose to limit these entries to the ones relevant to this article which can be supported with a reliable secondary source. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:53, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Blaze 007: The content you're adding does not meet those standards - please provide a reliable secondary source that indicates the significance of the material to the topic, or stop adding it. See WP:BURDEN. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:37, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Self referencing

The first source of this article (the youtube video titled "Bucket Wheel Excavator (Bagger 293)") is unreliable as its own source is a blog post which is itself sourced from the wikipedia page for "Bucket Wheel Excavator". I also couldn't find an actual source for the sentences referencing this youtube video within the wiki page for Bucket Wheel Excavator.

Also note that source 5, a pdf file in french titled "cours extreme engineering" negates several things in the article, including facts that claim to be sourced from it: it says that the construction cost 100 million Euro, not dollar, and that it is not the same as bagger 288's cost (Which is actually 80 million euro), as well as that the date of construction is actually 1999 and not 1995, that it requires 17.5 megawatts rather than 16.56, and that it has 20 buckets and not 18. DreamingAndroid (talk) 16:48, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]