Talk:Augusta Victoria Hospital

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Request: East Jerusalem sources

Right now the connection of A-Tur to East Jerusalem is unsourced. As such, I can not endorse the addition of the contentious East Jerusalem category. --Abnn 18:58, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mount Scopus

The building located in Mount Scopus beside the Mount of Olives — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.180.96.15 (talk) 21:44, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong title!

The hospital is and always was only PART of the Auguste Viktoria Stiftung = Augusta Victoria Foundation, which created what is now the Augusta Victoria Compound. The Augusta Victoria Compound contains the following buildings and institutions:

Augusta Victoria Hospital
Church of the Ascension (German Evangelical)
- Evangelical (Protestant) Pilgrims and Meeting Centre (Evangelisches Pilger- und Begegnungszentrum der Kaiserin Auguste Victoria-Stiftung)
- An interreligious kindergarten
- Café Auguste Victoria
The German Protestant Institute of Archaeology (Deutsches Evangelisches Institut für Altertumswissenschaft des Heiligen Landes), Jerusalem branch (the second one is in Amman)

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The Augusta Victoria Hospital is a church-hospital complex located on the northern side of the Mount of Olives in East Jerusalem, one of six hospitals in the East Jerusalem Hospitals Network. The hospital provides specialty care for Palestinians from across the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, with services including a cancer center, a dialysis unit, and a pediatric center. It is the second largest hospital in East Jerusalem, as well as the sole remaining specialized care unit located in the West Bank or Gaza Strip. The complex also includes the German Protestant Church of the Ascension, with a circa 50-metre-tall (160 ft) bell tower.

Photograph credit: Ori Aloni

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Incorrect map in infobox shows Jerusalem as part of Israel

In the infobox there is a an incorrect map by "Wikimedia | © OpenStreetMap", that map has incorrect boundaries and shows Jerusalem as if the city was part of Israel. How do I remove it from the infobox? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 13:41, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

+1: The map is inaccurate. Additionally, the article describes the hospital as being in Israel, even though East Jerusalem is considered by the international community to be a part of the occupied-West Bank, Palestine. Even the United States, which recognizes (West) Jerusalem to be the capital of Israel, still explicitly considers the hospital to not fall under Israeli territory per this article. CC: @Selfstudier AG202 (talk) 20:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Onel5969: Please explain this revert, it is in East Jerusalem, part of the East Jerusalem Hospitals Network and therefore not in Israel. Selfstudier (talk) 14:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, East Jerusalem is a part of Jerusalem, not a separate entity, and Jerusalem is in Israel. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 22:34, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The NPOV policy means that it is simply not possible for Wikipedia to say that locations across the Green Line are, as a matter of objective fact, in Israel. NPOV means that is not an option available to editors. Different solutions are required. Sean.hoyland (talk) 04:54, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is consensus on this, see WP:RFC/J. We neither say that EJ is in Israel, nor in Palestine.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 12:07, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's the case for the Jerusalem article, in other articles (infoboxes) we specify, if it is West Bank (includes (EJ), it's Palestine, else it is Israel. Selfstudier (talk) 12:25, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Could you please point to the WP policy which reflects this? Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:27, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Afaik, there isn't a specific consensus as there is for the Jerusalem article itself and there are many articles, but I think most of them do not actually have infoboxes and they all start off the same way, with the following phrase (or similar) "is an Israeli/Palestinian settlement in East Jerusalem" and then go on to say something similar to "the international community considers Israeli settlements in East Jerusalem illegal under international law, but the Israeli government disputes this" (per this consensus).

These guidelines were devised before the recent ICJ ruling declaring the Israeli occupation illegal, so may change in due course. If you want to remove the infobox here meanwhile, I have no objection to that (it would resolve the POV map at the same time), I simply objected to it being described as being in Israel, which it is not (and following the ICJ opinion, most definitely not). Selfstudier (talk) 12:03, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Atm, this one is consistent with Makassed Hospital, another of the network hospitals. Selfstudier (talk) 14:14, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]