Talk:Ashley Tisdale discography

Flag icons in column headers

Why are these here? I'm pretty sure they should not be, per WP:FLAG, and if anything, there should at least by a wikilink in column headers to indicate what the numbers below them mean. A flag of the U.S. means.... what? Which chart? - eo (talk) 22:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

You are right. I removed them. Meaningless visual noise. --NrDg 22:14, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Single Charts

I don't know why He Said She Said should be #47 in Switzerland, this song didn't entry in Suisse. Proof: http://swisscharts.com/showinterpret.asp?interpret=Ashley+Tisdale Noble Monrose (talk) 10:18, 13 September 2008 (UTC)Noble Monrose

Album sales?

Exactly how has Ashley's album sold 1.5 million copies worldwide? I thought it sold just shy of a million copies worldwide. Is this an error? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.117.119 (talk) 04:25, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

No it would be highly impossible for her to have sold that many albums with her first album selling 471,000 with multiple sources confirming it was certified gold due to shipments. Nbeau1989 (talk) 04:16, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Autumn Goodbye rumors/hoax are back

So, Autumn Goodbye has been added to the discography. As of August 2008, and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Autumn Goodbye, this was unfounded rumor. It still is: the alleged source given for the album is an invalid URL. Is there any reason to keep this in the article? —C.Fred (talk) 05:49, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Correction: the alleged source is somebody's personal blog at blogspot. —C.Fred (talk) 05:53, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Of course not. It was a hoax that got a bit too much traction because people kept recreating the Wikipedia article, so the hoax in Wikipedia fed the blogs, and then people started to recreate the Wikipedia article based on the blogs (I found a case where the sources used in a Wikipedia version were all Wikipedia mirrors of different versions of the hoax).—Kww(talk) 14:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

'Autumn Goodbye', as said above, it's just a hoax album as the many others which appeared there, like 'Voices', 'Miss Independent'... there's no reason to add this albums here. By the way, the rumor said that 'Autumn Goodbye' would be released on January. We are on February and currently there's no information about Tisdale's second album yet. Decodet (talk) 16:14, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

"Kww says ..."

I noticed this edit summary and felt compelled to comment. I haven't had an explicit discussion about that chart with anyone. Americatop100.com is not listed on WP:BADCHARTS, and no one has come up with a specific reason not to use it. I did correct one of Juanacho's edits that used a bad Chilean chart to use the one at Americatop100, and that's probably what he is referring to. The charts I actually recommend using are at User:Kww/goodcharts.—Kww(talk) 14:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Request article protection

{{editsemiprotected}} there have been more an more edits to the sales of her albums with no references and no proof at all by large amounts to until after the forthcoming album comes out i think it would be wise to semi protect the dicography page Nbeau1989 (talk) 07:33, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Not done: This template is for requesting edits to already-protected articles. To request protection for a new article, list the article at Requests for Page Protection. — Deon555^talk_{I'm BACK!} 11:08, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

EPs

Is this section accurate? If we include the Be Good To Me remix EP, we should mention that there's been two. There was an old one with three tracks and is no longer available, and then there's the one that's currently available. And we should also include the He Said She Said remix EP. I personally think that none of the remix EPs should be included. They're listed on the singles' articles, and I think that's enough. Akcvtt (talk) 08:06, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Removed Be Good to Me remix EP. Decodet (talk) 15:23, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

High School Musical songs

I've been in a recent little edit war with user Olivewildes about few points. I think we should list "What I've Been Looking For", "Bop to the Top", "Fabolous" and "I Want It All" peak positions on the chart table because they are Tisdale's official releases by Walt Disney Records. Several sites list those songs on Tisdale's chart history, such as Billboard, All Music and aCharts. So why Wikipedia can't list them? Other opinions? Decodet (talk) 20:20, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

All of the songs are listed in the High School Musical discography page because all of the songs Tisdale participated in are as Sharpay Evans, which is the character Tisdale portrayed the the High School Musical film franchise. In all of the soundtracks, Tisdale was not involved in the main aspects except for the recordings as the character Sharpay Evans. When Tisdale recorded the songs, it was not meant for her music career. She was not offered a music deal before the soundtrack was released and all of the songs she has recorded as required for her acting role. Sharpay Evans is an aspiring musician, when Tisdale recorded and sang those songs in concerts and in the film series she was portraying a character and in the soundtrack it does say that the songs are as Sharpay Evans. Unlike the Hannah Montana series, where Miley Cyrus does contribute to the production of the soundtracks and does write some of the songs in the soundtracks due to the alter ego in the series. While in the Musical franchise there is not an alter ego, Tisdale portrays a character who is simply not her, every time she performs the songs she is portraying Sharpay Evans and this can be seen in the performances. Sharpay Evans is listed as the artist behind the songs, the songs are not part of Tisdale's official releases because she is not credited as the main artist behind the songs. All of official releases from the High School Musical movie franchise are listed in their discography page where the songs who entered charts are also listed. The Ashley Tisdale discography is for all of the official releases by Ashley Tisdale, not Sharpay Evans the character from the High School Musical film series. Her role in the series requires her to perform these songs as Sharpay Evans. --Olivewildes (talk) 20:50, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Beyoncé has a very similar case with her songs from the musical Dreamgirls and all the charted songs are listed on her discography. Why can't Ashley songs be listed? Decodet (talk) 18:46, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

You see there is a difference, "Check on It" and "Listen" in the Beyoncé Knowles discography page are tracks in Knowles' studio albums. Knowles had creative control over the songs, the soundtrack and the character, she also wrote "Listen" and "Check on It" which debuted in numerous record charts and are tracks in Knowles' albums, #1's and B'Day. "Check on It" was first recorded for the feature film, The Pink Panther and then became a track in Knowles' Destiny's Child album, #1's which credited Knowles as one of the song's main writers. Knowles has recorded over thirty songs for various soundtracks and most of them managed to enter major record charts, she has also co-written several of those songs. "Listen" is one of the charted songs Knowles recorded for Dreamgirls and is included in her singles section because the song is a track in her second studio album, B'Day. She is also listed as one of the song's main writers. This is the main reason only two of the soundtrack songs Knowles has recorded are listed in the singles section with their peak positions. --Olivewildes (talk) 05:40, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Miley Cyrus has not written any Hannah Montana songs and she even said on her E! special that she does not get to pick out the pictures used on Hannah albums. So using her as an example for creative control is not a very valid argument. However, I don't think it's up to any of us to determine how much creative control an artist has, whether it be Cyrus or Tisdale in whatever aspect of their career. But I think it is necessary to add the charting positions of Tisdale's soundtrack releases. Not only is she credited as herself rather than Sharpay on the High School Musical 3: Senior Year (soundtrack), her soundtracks are projects she lent her voice to and they charted. It's as simple as that. These facts are notable and relevant to Tisdale's discography, no matter how much creative control you think she may or may not have. Akcvtt (talk) 05:45, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Depending on the amount of releases, I think it would be okay to include both sets of her releases here. Make a level three heading for her HSM singles and keep them separate, perhaps hatnote it to make it clear she was in character. I admittedly have not really watched the movies, are these all solo songs? Or are they always group songs? If they're credited to her character, include them, if there is a lot credited to her character, the character should have its own page = Hannah Montana discography. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 03:16, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Both sets of her releases are included in her discography page, in the "Other work" section. All of the soundtrack songs she has recorded are listed in the article and have their own section. The majority of the songs she has recorded for High School Musical are with many other performers and she is performing as Sharpay Evans. The High School Musical music has its own discography page where all of the solo and group songs are listed with their peak positions. The character does not have its own discography because she has recorded a small amount of solo songs and the High School Musical series consists of a huge group of performers. The Hannah Montana discography page is equivalent to the High School Musical discography page. There is no initial need of having the soundtrack songs peak positions in her solo discography page because all of the songs she has contributed to in the High School Musical series which have entered record charts are listed in the High School Musical discography page, it has its own page therefore the whole details do not need to be listed here. Their is a whole page dedicated to the High School Musical music. Olivewildes (talk) 00:45, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually all the songs listed are duets with Lucas Grabeel or Zac Efron. She has four chart entries from the soundtrack: 'What I've Been Looking For', 'Bop to the Top', 'Fabulous' and 'I Want It All' so it's not a big amount of songs. Also, Billboard always cite Tisdale's record on the Hot 100 charts: she was the first artist to debut on the chart with two entries at the same time. So Billboard and All Music consider the two songs as Tisdale's songs, then what's the point of not adding those on her discography? Billboard do not consider songs for Hannah Montana's soundtracks as Miley Cyrus songs, neither AllMusic. As I repeated multiple times, I think those soundtrack songs should be added on the article. Decodet (talk) 16:38, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

A new table for the peak positions can be created, the table should replace the current table in the other works section or the High School Musical songs can be removed from the current table and a new sub-section called High School Musical can be created where a small table containing all of the High School Musical songs with their peak positions can be seen. Olivewildes (talk) 06:30, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

• Singles - all official singles she has released under Ashley Tisdale.
• Other songs - all charting songs not released as official singles, but by Ashley Tisdale. Should be in a separate table from singles.
• As Sharpay Evans - create a subsection under Singles. All releases which are credited to this character as either the lead vocalist, part of a duet, or solo. All songs where she is backing vocals, or is just one of the group labelled High School Musical cast, should be in the next section. Good eg. "What I've Been Looking For".
• Other appearances - All High School Musical songs which are not specifically credited to her. eg. "Stick to the Status Quo". I think you have labelled this section Other works.

We should also make mention of the character in the lead. This is what I have come to after reading your explanations, is this plausible? k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 12:05, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

The FLC

Please in the future do a peer review or suggest the FLC on this talk page before doing the nomination. This would make our job easier...--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 14:49, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I did a peer review for the article just before nominating it. Since there were not many problems with the article, I decided to nominate it for FLC. Sorry for any incovenience. Decodet (talk) 14:51, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Didn't see that. I guess the job was as easy as it gets... thanks for doing the improvements as soon as I suggest them...--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 14:55, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

IT'S ALRIGHT IT'S OK

Hey! If you open the pag eof Ashley's single It'S Alright It's Ok and scroll down to the chart performance section, it says : The song did considerably well in the United States, where it debuted at number 99 and later peaked at number 4 in its 7th week on the chart, due to strong digital sales of 252,000 and also making it Tisdale's first top 10 hit on the Billboard Hot 100. The song remained in the top 10 for 12 weeks. The song has sold over 3,000,000 paid downloads in the United States alone making it eligible to be certified 3x Platinum by the RIAA. The song peaked number 2 and 5 in Australia and New Zealand, respectively, making it certified 3x Platinum and Platinum, respectively. The song was a minor success in the United Kingdom when it only reached the top 15 peaking at number 11, the song was nonetheless certified Silver for sales denoting over 100,000 copies

SO????????? is it true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MuzikPro (talk • contribs) 14:00, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

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