Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/Ashley Tisdale discography/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list removal nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was kept by NapHit 13:31, 23 December 2012 [1].
Ashley Tisdale discography (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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I am nominating this for featured list removal because... the article is a bit of a mess, there's an error in the opening line for goodness sake ("one extended plays"). Sentences such as "Tisdale has also recorded a soundtrack album, six singles and several other releases as her High School Musical character Sharpay Evans" are messy and uncomfortable to read. Another error is the sentence "...reaching a top-forty peak position in Germany, Austria, Finland, Sweden and more". The last sentence about her album sales is completely unsourced. Chart positions have been fabricated (probably by an over-zealous fan), and quite frankly, music video directors by the names of "unknown" are unacceptable for a Featured List. The references have many, many errors, particularly with the works, publishers, and inconsistencies with dates. Till 08:28, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- As the one who nominated this article for Featured list way back in 2009 and got it promoted, I felt obligated to reply. Some of the stuff in the lead you mentioned were already fixed or removed by someone.
- - About the sales: People seem to change sales values in discography articles so since we don't have a reliable source for Tisdale's sales I've always prefered not to have it anywhere on the album's table so crazy fans wouldn't mess with it.
- - About the music video directors: what would you suggest? Those videos directors are, indeed, unknown and if we just remove the word "unknown" we'd be assuming those videos didn't have directors which we also can't prove.
- - About references errors: I would love if you help me to find what's wrong with them so I can try to work on them and make them good.
- Other than that, I don't see any reason why this article is a mess. It still seems pretty organized to me since it was promoted back in 2009. But I still would like to hear more so I can work on it! Thanks. Decodet (talk) 15:35, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- As the one who nominated this article for Featured list way back in 2009 and got it promoted, I felt obligated to reply. Some of the stuff in the lead you mentioned were already fixed or removed by someone.
Comments
- Lead is too short per WP:LEAD.
- Release dates for albums, where are they referenced, and what territory are they relevant to?
- Where is soundtrack album and all its info referenced?
- Notes need to be referenced.
- Where is the existence of Masquerade and Acting Out referenced?
- What's the point of the KOR chart column win nothing charted on it?
- There's a [citation needed] tag.
- Haven't checked external links, but some are three or more years old so worth a look.
The Rambling Man (talk) 16:23, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Tisdale's musical career has not been something big so it's hard to write a long lead without putting irrelevant information. Included sources for albums, soundtrack and promotional singles, removed Korean chart column and replaced the [citation needed] tag with a reference. Decodet (talk) 19:35, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Well the article still needs to meet WP:LEAD requirements. Also, there now seems to be mixed date formats in the refs. Which territories are the release dates relevant to? Or where they released simultaneously in US, AUS, AUT, CAN, GER, IRL, NZL, SPA, SWI, UK? The Rambling Man (talk) 18:25, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed the date formats in some of the recent refs, it was my mistake. I also added the countries in which those albums were first released. I'll try to work on and expand the lead as soon as possible. Thanks for your comments! Decodet (talk) 19:39, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Well the article still needs to meet WP:LEAD requirements. Also, there now seems to be mixed date formats in the refs. Which territories are the release dates relevant to? Or where they released simultaneously in US, AUS, AUT, CAN, GER, IRL, NZL, SPA, SWI, UK? The Rambling Man (talk) 18:25, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment not seeing too many major issues, and there's little or no interest in delisting this from the rest of the community, so I guess status quo should stand? The Rambling Man (talk) 21:11, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- This definitely can't pass in its current condition, the chart positions are still vandalized/fabricated and the references are still in poor state. Till 09:51, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Till, as an expert, would you be prepared to fix these issues? The Rambling Man (talk) 16:49, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Till - I noticed ONE fake chart position that I missed and it's already fixed. Instead of criticizing the entire article, you could just tell me what's wrong with it or try to fix them himself since you are an editor as well. Decodet (talk) 16:58, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You are correct the only issue now is the references.Any sources that are online such as MTV and Allmusic shouldn't be in italics. The publisher for MTV is MTV Networks, and for Allmusic it's Rovi Corporation. There are some more references that are missing publishers such as Prometheus Global Media for Billboard and Daily Mail and General Trust for Daily Mail. Till 12:05, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]- Ugh, I just cross-checked the positions with the references, and there are more that are vandalized. I feel so angry and betrayed right now. Till 12:12, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I assume you meant the European peak positions for her singles and I've already added new ones since the Billboard chart history seem not to show the peak positions for the songs. If they are any more problems with the peak positions, please let me know so I can fix them. For now, everything seems good to me. I've also corrected the publishers in the sources. Let me know if there is anything else. Decodet (talk) 16:01, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Ugh, I just cross-checked the positions with the references, and there are more that are vandalized. I feel so angry and betrayed right now. Till 12:12, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Till - I noticed ONE fake chart position that I missed and it's already fixed. Instead of criticizing the entire article, you could just tell me what's wrong with it or try to fix them himself since you are an editor as well. Decodet (talk) 16:58, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Till, as an expert, would you be prepared to fix these issues? The Rambling Man (talk) 16:49, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment okay, another two weeks have passed, no further comment going on here, so I suggest this is (and I mean it this time) closed as kept. There's no consensus to delist it, my major issues were dealt with, let's move on. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:08, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree. Any minor issues withstanding can be addressed away from this FLRC page. Till 10:30, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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