Talk:Apple (1910s automobile)

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On 17 April 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Apple (automobile) to Apple (1910s automobile). The result of the discussion was moved.

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I did a little research, but was not able to find anything on this company. Due to its brief life, this isn't surprising. Could the company possibly be related to Vincent G. Apple (1874-1932)? He was a Dayton area inventor who received patents on several automobile and aircraft related electrical parts.

I added the unreferenced tag to this page. Even the David Burgess Wise "Encyclopedia of Automobiles" does not mention this company (it lists even the smallest of defunct auto companies). It could be that it was so small and so short lasting that there is just not much written about it. Worse case senerio, the page is a hoax. If a hoax, the page should be removed, otherwise, it needs to reference sources.HornColumbia 17:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I found a reference to this company in Rolling Wheels by Martin H. Bury (1953), but not any information on the car or company. At least it shows this page is not a hoax.HornColumbia (talk) 20:00, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i didnt find anything related to this car or company. I believe its a hoax. I am adding a hoax template thanks. --Camilo Sanchez (talk) 05:30, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've done some research on this company, and I no longer think this is a hoax. The book below has some historical info on this company. I don't have access to this book, but if someone wants a project, this book would be a good ref to expand the article.

Miami Valley's marvelous motor cars : from the Apple-Eight to the Xenia Cyclecar, 1886-1960 / by Curt Dalton ; with Roger L. Miller, Michael M. Self, Ben F. Thompson. by Dalton, Curt, 1958- Publisher: [Dayton, Ohio : C. Dalton], c2007. Description: 96 p. : ill. ; 28 cm. Notes: "Over 125 photographs, drawings and illustrations covering 74 years of automobile manufacturing in Dayton, Eaton, Hamilton, Miamisburg, Middletown, Piqua, Springfield, Trotwood, Troy, Xenia"--Cover. ISBN: 0971570299 HornColumbia (talk) 19:42, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Warring

Edit Warring is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia, and as such, I would like to resolve this issue before undoing any more edits. The user Special:Contributions/2602:306:B8A5:26B0:D8BB:C160:6001:B63B is arguing that the reason the company failed is because the company lacked Steve Jobs' business acumen. It is my understanding that the company Apple and the automobile company in question have no affiliation. To equate, this is like me going on the Vietnam War article, and adding that good Americans suffered so many casualties because America lacked a good military leader like Genghis Khan. It doesn't make any sense because they have nothing to do with each other, and while having Genghis Khan as a general might have helped, it's irrelevant. Similarly, having Steve Jobs' business acumen might have helped, but it's irrelevant. k_scheik (talk) 19:02, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting additions like this is not considered edit warring. Additions of inane trollish pov such as this is vandalism and exempt from the 3rr policy. However,an essay, WP:DENY, is on point here. If someone who is obviously trolling, or so clueless as to think this a helpful addition, is best ignored. John from Idegon (talk) 06:18, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 17 April 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 11:45, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apple (automobile) → Apple (1910s automobile) – Dab from Apple car project * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:40, 17 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 17:57, 25 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 02:42, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Automobiles has been notified of this discussion. ASUKITE 17:57, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Clearly a title likely to cause confusion in this day and age. BD2412 T 19:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – The 1910s automobile would seem to be, at the very least, the primary topic as there does not appear to have been a car developed by Apple called Apple. (I can, however, see an argument for Apple car to continue to redirect to Apple car project, as it uses Apple as a modifier for car, rather than suggesting that there is a type of car that could be referred to simply as Apple.) Graham (talk) 04:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Ohio and WikiProject United States have been notified of this discussion. Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 23:22, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose - I did a bit of reading on this to see if I could form an opinion, it looks like there isn't yet an Apple car, and the project has been canned. Given that, I think this is safe to stay where it is. No need to disambiguate further if the 1910s automobile was the only vehicle we know of that was called "Apple", especially if we aren't calling it the "Apple automobile", which would be confusing. I'm choosing weak oppose only because while I don't believe we need to disambiguate, adding 1910s doesn't really hurt anything and is slightly more informative, so I can see value in that, even if it goes against WP:CONCISE ASUKITE 15:44, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support - The Apple brand is everywhere today. A reader thinking that they could build or at least be associated with a car seems reasonable, there is an Apple car project. A simple "1910s" (Edit add: the car was only built one year, 1915) might separate a 5 hit a day article from an unrelated core one that gets 13,495 and has countless "Apple something" branches. Sammy D III (talk) 19:31, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support mainly because the 1910s car company is fairly obscure. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 16:46, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support – Per WP:PRECISE. It's counterintuitive that it's a 1910s vehicle. Svartner (talk) 08:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.