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February 1, 2009	Articles for deletion	Deleted
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Detail on Greece and verifiable material

I have added detailed information concerning Greece and incidents occurred there. Since the online source is my personal blog and wishing to adhere to Wikipedia:Reliable_sources I add that the article is based on the newsletter "Ta Nea Mas" by the Central Jewish Board and personal archives which are documented by photographs. Since then the report has been adopted by the NGO Helsinki Monitor. Also the official report of the Central Board of Jewish Communities, (which is also included as a source), confirms the post but since these are my first steps in Wikipedia I wished to clear it. Abravanel GR (talk) 17:27, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the contributions; they are very nice. The sources you're using are reasonably reliable, but to avoid possible confusion I suggest you source every statement to the appropriate original publication and not to your blog. If the original sources aren't online and/or aren't in English, it could be convenient for other editors if you also link to your blog. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 17:43, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I understand but the newspaper "Ta Nea Mas" is not available on line - still the photos like the photos of vandalisms in Athens, Volos, Drama, Ioannina etc are directly extracted from there. Also with the exception of the Larisa neonazi vandalism, which is not included in the CBJ's article but I have posted a screenshot, all of the incidents are covered in the official report of the Central Board of Jewish Communities in Greece. So there the same incident is covered twice on my post and the CBJ report which both exist in English; still I will try and do as requested. Please check in later to see if it is now more acceptable. Abravanel GR (talk) 18:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Each and every fact now linking directly to the source and I have favored the official report over my post wherever possible. I have also added external sources wherever possible. In all other cases like the neonazi marches in Athens or Larissa they are supported by photographic footage available in my site and would have no problem releasing in under a wikimedia license here but I'm afraid to mess more with the page. Unfortunately the sources appear now as 20+ separate despite being 4 and whoever can fix this is more than welcome to. Abravanel GR (talk) 19:09, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple issues - unsourced inflammatory contents

Canadian incidents are sourced to Youtube video. I am aware of the propaganda videos of IDF available there, but Youtube is not a reliable source. I have deleted German incidents because I am fluent in German and the link in German language provided does not say a single word about Gaza. Secretary of German Central Council of Jews say that polemic of a German politician in a TV show constitute "anti Semitism". Connecting that directly to Gaza is original research. May be the user Jalapenos who created this article and probably thinks that he owns it is too busy, but before reverting he should read the edit summary and go through the older revision which is full of unverifiable references and unreliable sources such as Youtube Zencv^Whisper 21:08, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Funny, I looked at the German source you're referring to and it does mention Gaza, in the second paragraph and in the fourth paragraph. (The issue is not directly relevant, since there's no reason it would have to mention Gaza - this article is about incidents during the Gaza War - but it's relevant to the question of whether other editors can believe what you say.) You also deleted the rest of the content on Germany, which is not sourced to that article, and you seem to have no explanation whatsoever for deleting all of the content on Venezuela. As for Canada, though YouTube can be used with caution, the incidents are not notable enough for inclusion according to the criteria agreed upon by consensus, so I'm going to leave that out. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 21:32, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I had deleted those sourced to JPost because those links no longer work. Given that JPost itself is a non neutral source, one can practically write pretty much anything, sourcing it to a dead/non functioning JPost article and this practice is not very good. Venezuale stuff also has one JPost ref. which no longer work. The second link - it basically says about some attack, but connection is rather vague and there is a fair share of OR needed to conclude that. Zencv^Whisper 22:09, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting sourced information because a link doesn't work is unacceptable, and contrary to WP practice. When it comes to paper sources, a link is merely a courtesy. IronDuke 23:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Zencv, The Jerusalem Post is a reliable sourced, whether you like it or not. Keep your blatant partisanship out of this and move on. Plot Spoiler (talk) 13:14, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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