Talk:American Equestrian Trade Association

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I edited the initial article (7-19-10) to add historical perspective and remove some of the initial promotional language. Much of the first article was from the AETA web site.

With the recent edits, I have followed the format used by BETA's wiki article.

If anyone can suggest external links to verify or enhance the history involved with US Equestrian trade, you are encouraged chime in.

Chidoctork (talk) 18:47, 20 July 2010 (UTC) Apparently my attempts to improve the article only made things worse. So, today's edits sought to follow the content of the above referenced BETA article.

I will attempt further edits to overcome objections as I understand them. However I am not able to regularly follow up and may find the article deleted before having an opportunity to address ongoing issues.

AETA has been a victim of "organizational identity theft" in the past which nearly destroyed the association and their initiatives. (I eliminated references to this scenario from the article). If it is a conflict of interest to establish a Wiki article that establishes AETA's identity, then I am guilty. I only ask for some assistance in understanding the difference between this article and that of BETA (the British counterpart to AETA) that has been accepted by Wikipedia.

I admit to having a role in assisting this not-for-profit association with their on-line communication. I am NOT employed by AETA and do not seek to profit from this article's publication. I admit to hoping that AETA would somehow benefit (as has BETA). This is a relatively small, not-for-profit trade association and small industry. AETA has no full-time employees. Their membership is generally not tech-savvy and is primarily comprised of "horse people" who spend most of their free time at barns with their horses. So if not for me, it is unlikely this information would be shared by a disconnected 3rd party.

Again, I do wonder how the BETA article was accepted. I've continued my attempts to replicate it.

Chidoctork (talk) 22:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Please provide a link to BETA article for comparison. Found the article: British Equestrian Trade Association. It appears to be accepted as notable because it is an authorized entity within the British Equestrian Federation. This article on AETA appears to be about an organization with no similar affiliations. It is completely independent and unaffiliated with any other legitmate national group such as the USEF. The criteria that is applicable to you is this one: Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Of note: "A company, corporation, organization, school, team, religion, group, product, or service is notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in secondary sources. Such sources must be reliable, and independent of the subject. A single independent source is almost never sufficient for demonstrating the notability of an organization." There is a need to demonstrate notability. If you contest the article's deletion, then remove the prod tag, and it can be discussed further. Montanabw^(talk) 22:42, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Recent edits include the addition of two external sources including links to articles from independent trade magazines' on-line articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chidoctork (talk • contribs) 16:19, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I did a fast Google search and found three, had time to add two. These are examples. Note that the prod tag is off. However, all the issues still remain; there is a need for more sources external to the organization itself and its members. The line between an article and an advertising piece is kind of a thin one. I am becoming convinced that this organization is more than a "garage band" sort of group, but it needs some more sourcing from outside things like newspaper press releases, magazine articles, etc. There are worse articles on wikipedia, but the thing that usually gets articles over the threshold is notability, as evidenced by outsiders admitting the entity exists and has a purpose. Good luck. Montanabw^(talk) 19:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

The primary equestrian industry news publication is Tack 'n Togs magazine. If you visit their website and search for "AETA", there are two pages of search results that link to their articles about news for this association. I had added some of those external links. But they were removed.

Another trade publication that covers this association's activities is Western and English today. Their site includes this link to a 2009 article about the AETA industry trade show. And this article about the association's officers.

I have not added any of these links to the article as I suspect that links from news articles are not appropriate. While they may not be appropriate for the WIKI article, they do serve to substantiate the existence of this organization. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chidoctork (talk • contribs) 00:51, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

AETA's inaugural trade show was held in February of 2008 in Orlando FL (reference link: http://www.equestrianmag.com/news/aeta-trade-show-equestrian-3-08.html) Subsequently, two semiannual trade shows were held in Baltimore in August 2008 and January 2009. In August 2009, the association held their next four trade shows in Oaks, PA, a Philadelphia suburb. The equestrian industry historically convened in the King of Prussia / Valley Forge Pennsylvania region prior to the establishment of this trade association. AETA International trade shows are planned for this location through 2011 and beyond. REF link: http://www.tackntogs.com/ME2/dirsect.asp?sid=024F30E3DD554F86ABE27BEC1E9BE3D8&nm=Markets+Calendar Chidoctork —Preceding undated comment added 20:17, 10 January 2011 (UTC).