Talk:Alcantara (material)

Merge proposal

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• Please do not merge with "ultrasuede". Many business are using this name conspicuously, so providing the information seperately is important. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.119.64.100 (talk • contribs) 19:59, 1 May 2008

  While it goes under a different brand name, Alcantara appears to be the same material as Ultrasuede, which is more of a generic term. Mind, this is based on preliminary internet research. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.175.230.50 (talk) 15:30, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

• Don't merge. I've never heard of Ultrasuede, but Alcantara was/is as famous, or infamous, as Chrysler's "Corinthian leather". Kar98 (talk) 00:55, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

  Since Alcantara is just a brand name/marketing tool there's no reason it should have it's own section and instead should be a subsection of Ultrasuede. Just because some people are not familiar with the term doesn't mean much since it's much more commonly used in the upholstery world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.79.85.59 (talk) 17:41, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

• It also doesn't seem to have anything to do with corinthian leather... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.79.85.59 (talk) 17:57, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Not identical

Ultrasuede and Alcantara are not identical. They should be combined since although a seperate short entry for Alcantara SpA should remain since it is a seperate company. Again, Ultrasuede and Alcantara are not identical. Alcantara is a modified Ultrasuede. Toray Industries invented and holds the licensing to Ultrasuede. Toray Industries entered into a partnership with Alcantara SpA to produce and market a modified version of their Ultrasuede. The modified version of Ultrasuede is called Alcantara and is fire-proof, that is why it is used in cars since fireproofing of some sort if required by most countries. It first showed up in high end cars, like Lambos, that is why one of the posters thinks it rates its own page like Corinthian Leather, but honestly, it is not nearly as specific a marketing tool as that and besides it is showing up in all sorts of vehicles these days, not just the exotics. Heck, you can buy it and install it yourself or have your upholsterer install it for you. If your roof lining is sagging don't just glue it back up, buy some Alcantara and install it instead. The fireproofing also makes it beneficial for furnature. But to reitterate, these two are not identical nor is "Ultrasuede" a generic term. Microfiber is a generic term but Toray owns the name Ultrasuede...although as with all things, if it continues to be used generically the courts will not uphold infringement cases. (Kleenex and Jacuzzi would have a hard time suing for copyright infringement since those names, although specific to one manufacturer, have been used generically for too long. The same would happen to "Coke" if they weren't so vigilant about fighting its use as a general word to mean the same thing as "cola" or "soda".) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hgray14 (talk • contribs) 21:33, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Alcantara and Ultrasuede are different products, they should not be combined. Ultrasuede is 100% polyester and Alcantara is 68% polyester and 32% polyurethane. The polyurethane is what gives Alcantara it's extra durability and stain resistance. Also not all Alcantara is fire resistant. Each type of Alcantara (cover, panel, and soft) are available in fire resistant and non-fire resistant versions. The Alcantara name is a trademark of Alcantara S.p.A. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.246.57.161 (talk) 04:02, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

as you can see many people say not to merge it so can you please remove the thing on top of the page.Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.83.1.91 (talk) 01:35, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

No merge on Ultrasuede and Alcantara. They are two differnt fabrics. Ultrasuede is 100% polyester while ALcantara is 68% polyester and 32% polyurethane. They should stand independent and alone from each other for this reason.

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No merge as per foregoing. Template removed from Ultrasuede. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 23:42, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

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Licensing

Toray Industries holds the licensing on Ultrasuede, and Alcantara. Both products are identical apart from the brand name. It would be useful to provide that information to remove confusion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.109.169.4 (talk) 16:11, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Microfiber

Sounds like both Ultrasuede and Alcantara are types of Microfiber and these short stubs of articles would make nice paragraphs in the comprehensive Microfiber entry where a true picture of their relevance and importance could be appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrtew (talk • contribs) 13:35, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

this seems like the most logical solution Jgeddis (talk) 03:54, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

I agree as well. Have a Microfiber article and have all the different types of Microfiber suede (Ultrasuede, Microsuede, Alcantara, etc.) as subheadings. They'll still be searchable via google, and everything is in one place. 24.7.28.199 (talk) 23:26, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Ad copy

Why do I get the sense when reading this article that it was written by people who were or are involved with Alcantara?

Why are there several paragraphs detailing all kinds of information about its manufacture while I have to puzzle out for myself that Alcantara is a type of synthetic leather/suede? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.154.255.144 (talk) 09:00, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Alcantara® isn't a microfiber

Goodmorning I'm writing on bealfh of Alcantara SpA. We need to asking you a correction of some sentences in this page. First of all is not correct to define Alcantara as common microfiber: Alcantara® is the coating material with registered trademark the result of a unique and patented technology. I'm asking to change the sentence "Alcantara is a microfiber material manufactured and marketed by Alcantara S.p.A., based in Milan, Italy. It is primarily used in the design, fashion, accessories, consumer electronics, automotive and marine industries.[1] " with this sentence " "Alcantara® is the coating material with registered trademark, the result of a unique and patented technology, manufactured and marketed by Alcantara SpA . Totally Made in Italy and Carbon Neutral certified, Alcantara® is applied in the design, fashion, accessories, consumer electronics, automotive and in the marine industry. " In addition Alcantara® is registered trademark so should be necessary to add ® at the and of name with capital letter

thank you very much for your cooperation — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.118.8.157 (talk) 10:38, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

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