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The article ought to describe Lewis and Sloan as "socially conservative"

Regardless of whether we include detailed platforms, the article is incomplete without a reference to Lewis and Sloan as the two "socially conservative" candidates. A statement like that should appear in the article's introduction, with more detail further down under the sections "Candidates" and "Results". It is easy to find reliable sources for this fact.

The Wikipedia article should also explain clearly that although MacKay was generally considered the front-runner from the start of the race, and up until the end was thought by pollsters to have the advantage under the points system ([1]), O'Toole in fact won decisively in the final round, beating MacKay by 4,743 points out of the 33,800 available (headline in The Star: "Erin O’Toole wins Conservative Party leadership in major upset" [2]). It wasn't close, and reliable sources agree on the reason for O'Toole's win. As a Canadian Press news story from Aug. 25 put it, his victory is "owed in part to thousands of supporters of avowed social conservative candidates. Those party members backed O’Toole as their third choice, after he promised to always respect their concerns." ([3][4][5]) A Maclean's analysis says the same thing, in blunter language: "The final ballot results tell a simple story. O’Toole won by scooping up the second-choice votes of the social conservatives vying for the Tory crown." ([6]). (See also: [7] and [8].) I haven't come across any reliable sources that give a different explanation for why O'Toole won so decisively in Round 3, despite the opinion polls which suggested MacKay had the edge. Also, it had been reported a month before that this was a conscious strategy of the O'Toole campaign ([9]: "O’Toole acknowledges ... that courting down-ballot support from social conservatives, like Scheer did in 2017, is a strategy on his campaign."). The Wikipedia article on this leadership race ought to explain, preferably in the introductory paragraphs, that O'Toole beat MacKay so decisively by attracting third-choice votes of supporters of the socially conservative candidates.

From all stages of this leadership race, it is easy to find reliable sources describing Leslyn Lewis as socially conservative, emphasizing her "pro-life" position on abortion and her opposition to a ban on "conversion therapy": [10] (Feb. 12: a supporter describes Lewis as "a strong Christian woman who is anti-abortion and in support of traditional marriage"); [11] (March 10); [12] (May 22: "The Toronto-based lawyer is going head-to-head with two veteran Conservative politicians in Peter MacKay and Erin O’Toole, and rookie MP Derek Sloan, who like Lewis, identifies as a social conservative."); [13] (July 13: Lewis "identifies as a social conservative"); [14] (Aug. 21: "Lewis is an unapologetic social conservative").

The article should also, I believe, emphasize that Leslyn Lewis did surprisingly well considering that she was unknown on the national stage before the race. Despite that, she raised almost $1,000,000 in the quarter, and attracted more individual donors than any other candidate ([15]). She also received, in Round 2, more votes than any other candidate ([16]). Mathew5000 (talk) 05:43, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree on all points - all are well-supported by reliable sources. Feel free to make those changes. - Ahunt (talk) 11:59, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Erin O'Toole Photo

We should be using (File:Erin_O'Toole_March_18,_2021_portrait_(cropped).jpg) for the Photo of Erin O'Toole across this page, as it's higher quality and consistent with the photo used on the 2021 page. I switched it, then was reverted for reasoning, "I don't think we should be using a 2021 portrait to illustrate an article about a 2020 event", first off, a photo from within a year after the election is fine in my view as being from the correct time period, secondly, the photo currently in use (Erin O'Toole (cropped).png) on the page was also uploaded in 2021, so if that reasoning is being used we shouldint be using either photo. WanukeX (talk) 04:39, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Peter MacKay’s photo

Why use 2011? Why not the 2014 one.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Peter_MacKay_2014.jpg

2014 is close to 2020, not 2011

if not, I’ll make a MacKay 2020 photo BarneyHunter123123 (talk) 12:40, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]