Talk:2014 Las Vegas shootings

This article was nominated for deletion on 10 June 2014. The result of the discussion was keep.

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Nevada, a project which is currently considered to be inactive.NevadaWikipedia:WikiProject NevadaTemplate:WikiProject NevadaNevada articles

Crime and Criminal Biography Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Crime and Criminal Biography articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Crime and Criminal BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyCrime-related articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Death Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Death, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Death on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.DeathWikipedia:WikiProject DeathTemplate:WikiProject DeathDeath articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

It is requested that an image or photograph of 2014 Las Vegas shootings be included in this article to improve its quality. Please replace this template with a more specific media request template where possible.

Wikipedians in Las Vegas may be able to help!

The Free Image Search Tool or Openverse Creative Commons Search may be able to locate suitable images on Flickr and other web sites.

Upload

Tip: Anchors are case-sensitive in most browsers.

This article links to one or more target anchors that no longer exist.

[[Winchester Model 1200#Variants|Winchester 1300]] The anchor (Variants) has been deleted.

Please help fix the broken anchors. You can remove this template after fixing the problems. | Reporting errors

More sources

Too disgusted at the moment to edit this, but here are some sources that could be used Cwobeel (talk) 02:49, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This source [1] explains that the swastika was to portray police as nazis and not necesarily them being associated with white supremacy. Cwobeel (talk) 03:03, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Wilcox

It appears Robert Wilcox was the civilian that was killed and that he tried to stop Miller. He apparently was a law-abiding civilian with a concealed carry permit. Apparently, Amanda came up behind him and shot him from behind while Wilcox was confronting Miller. Not much coverage of this hero Wilcox. http://www.jrn.com/ktnv/news/Alleged-cop-killers-in-Las-Vegas-have-been-identified-262407401.html is one. The Dissident Aggressor 03:26, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've added details and the Sheriff's reaction with a reliable source. The Dissident Aggressor 21:39, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Article title

The title 2014 Las Vegas police shooting is ambiguous as it may imply that it was a police shooting rather than policemen shot at. Also, there was a third civilian casualty. I'd suggest to move it to "2104 Las Vegas shooting" or something similar, to make the title neutral, as well as accurate. Cwobeel (talk) 22:37, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe 2014 Las Vegas shooting spree, which is similar to other articles in the Shootings in the United States template KinkyLipids (talk) 23:01, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

KinkyLipids: That should work. Would you do the honors? Cwobeel (talk)

Reply - I like the title the way it is. If (heaven forbid) another shooting in southeast Nevada occurs this year, the article can be retitled "June 8, 2014 Las Vegas shootings" or simply add the month to the title. --Jax 0677 (talk) 03:16, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Heaven forbid indeed. Cwobeel (talk) 03:20, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Who killed Jerad Miller?

According to the Las Vegas Review-Journal, it's Las Vegas police who shot and killed Jerad Miller. News is still fairly new, so I'm waiting for more developments and not editing the main article for now.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/official-police-not-wife-killed-jerad-miller

lenny (talk) 22:48, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, the later reports I've seen say that both were hit by police gunfire, and that Jerad died immediately thereafter. 173.228.54.18 (talk) 23:14, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Huh?!?!?! All the reports I have seen said it was a murder/suicide: the wife killed the husband and then herself. Has that been changed? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 05:17, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There are some questions about this. Let's wait until the official autopsy report is out before changing. Cwobeel (talk) 15:28, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I initially held my nose and wrote the sentence as the sources say, but I am indeed very skeptical of suicide in every case and people committing suicide during a shootout in particular. I'll be happy to change it to something less confident. Wnt (talk) 16:17, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Off topic "See also"

Please don't use the "See also" section as a dumping ground for pro/anti-gun related articles. This article is about an event - not your (or others') political agenda. I've removed a bunch of off-topic stuff from that section. The Dissident Aggressor 14:01, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gadsden flag

The Gadsden flag does not belong in this article. The fact that the perpetrators put a flag over the body of one of the victims is irrelevant. They also put a Nazi flag with a swastika, [2] and we should not add that image here either. - Cwobeel (talk) 14:30, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Gadsden flag does belong in this article. The fact that the perpetrators put a flag over the body of one of the victims is relevant. I'm not a WP editor of any note, which is why I don't edit articles, but it seems obvious that the Gadsden flag is central to their motive and the political statement they were trying to make. Whitewashing references to the Gadsden flag is intellectually dishonest.Escherbach (talk) 23:07, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I fundamentally disagree. There is no whitewashing as the flag is mentioned in the article. - Cwobeel (talk) 23:26, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Its relevant to the article. They placed the flag over one of the dead cop's faces. Leave your fucking politics at the door. --RThompson82 (talk) 23:01, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on 2014 Las Vegas shootings. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

Y An editor has reviewed this edit and fixed any errors that were found.

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 06:46, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]