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Articles for deletion nomination of May 2010 Northern Sumatra earthquake

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Timelines of the presidency of Barack Obama

First, let me thank you for all your recent improvements to the various Timelines. They are informative. User:Diiscool and I have been editing and monitoring these articles since the first term. From the beginning we have tried to keep the Timelines as bare-boned as possible, using links and references to provide the reader with a path to more information. In the past 4 years there has been very little, if any, drama created. Your recent edits are welcome. But, I want to suggest that the more information that is presented opens the door for misinterpretation of the intent to include it. The subtlety of language and how it can be manipulated by politico's is what we need to avoid. Keep in mind this is only a friendly suggestion from one collaborator to another. ```Buster Seven Talk 19:22, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dunno how talk pages work, so hoping this isn't just me talking to myself. Thanks for the heads up; I'm not keen on edit-bombing the timelines. I wanted to emphasize a handful of major decisions but realized the timelines are not made to be chronological summaries of Obama's presidency but rather detailed presidential itineraries or logbooks. I got what I needed now, which was a basic mental chronology of major decisions by Obama and major events that directly affected his presidency, especially with history relentlessly repeating itself, even as I type: the identical Afghanistan troop withdrawals of 2011 and 2013, the Tax Relief Acts of 2010 and 2012, the Libyan and Syrian civil wars (they even rhyme), and now this government shutdown being a repeat of the debt ceiling crisis of 2011.

PS: My last edit on the 2011 timeline was to try and square with your reason for undoing my previous edit. If the edit still doesn't seem appropriate for the timeline, I won't feel bad if it's undone as well.KinkyLipids (talk) 21:06, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the quick and courteous reply. As to how the talk pages work, when you add to any talk, user or article, it automatically goes to your 'watchlist". In this case, my watchlist showed that you had replied. Its usually best to keep a conversation in one place for obvious reasons. Its been a pleasure...hope we cross paths again! ```Buster Seven Talk 22:15, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Nice work on United States federal government shutdown of 2013. Bearian (talk) 15:21, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Good work on Kitchen v. Herbert HectorMoffet (talk) 13:25, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

		The Copyeditor's Barnstar
		Thanks for your help editing Gone with the Wind. Prairiegrl (talk) 17:33, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

January 2014

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upon his death. Henry's nephew [[Stephen of Blois]] and Henry's daughter [[Empress Matilda|Maud]]) fight for the throne. Ambitious nobles and churchmen take sides, hoping to gain advantages. The

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Some good work

You are doing quite a good job dealing with such a controversial topic. 70.8.177.67 (talk) 18:44, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. The other editors have been great. KinkyLipids (talk) 18:58, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please see my talk page. I need an admin. It is obvious that there are some bad people trying to add bad things to that page. 173.153.3.126 (talk) 03:31, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[1] 5 families is necessary because Bundy's was one that was put in Arizona and not one of the ones in Mesquite. Otherwise, one would assume all of Leavitt's holdings would inherited by Bundy. Additionally, the "Mormon" part is necessary to establish why the group moved there and the histories all stress the Mormon faith. 70.8.248.135 (talk) 18:17, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The bottom of the paragraph refers to the 5 families, with Bundy's line placed in Arizona. I took out the 'Mormon pioneers' part because we don't really need to know why Leavitt moved, just that he did move. KinkyLipids (talk) 18:37, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Abbott divorce is necessary because Bundy's line is from the divorced wife who moved to California. 70.8.248.135 (talk) 19:07, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

But the wife died in Bunkerville, and Bundy's line is from her son who married in St. George and had a daughter born in Bunkerville. KinkyLipids (talk) 20:22, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kudos and good work on the Bundy article! You might also enjoy this other article also. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_militia Baleywik (talk) 05:16, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

An American Apple pie for you!

Kudos on your excellent article editing. Baleywik (talk) 05:18, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Seconded! Thanks, KL! 173.228.54.18 (talk) 22:36, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Youtube as a reference

I just reverted your change where you used Youtube as a source. Youtube is rarely going to be usable as a source, especially when it's not from the "official channel" of the actual producer of the video. The video you linked to, for example, probably is a copyright violation. Also, the reference really isn't youtube, it's the actual newscast that the Youtube video recorded. That's the real information we need to capture in a reference - who (or what) actually provided the information that we are referencing.

Citing stuff on Wikipedia can be tough for almost anyone, especially trying to figure out which template to use and what parameters need to be filled in. There's a pretty cool gadget available called ProveIt that can really make it easier to add references. You enable it in the Gadgets section of your preferences. Click on Preferences at the top, then the Gadgets tab. Scroll down to the Editing section and check ProveIt and it's enabled!

When you are editing an article, you'll see the ProveIt window at the bottom. Click on the up arrow to expand it and you'll see all of the existing references in the section you're editing. Click on Add Reference to add a new reference. Select the reference type, then fill out the information. Make sure the cursor in the editing window is where you want to insert the reference then click on "Insert into edit form" and it's done! The ProveIt page has some decent documentation that explains everything I just did, but in more detail. It's a really, really useful tool that makes it easier to add and update references. Ravensfire (talk) 16:49, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing that out. When the quote and youtube source were added, I only checked the vid to make sure the guy was quoted accurately and left it at that. When the source was accidentally removed before protection, I put it on my list of things to address later. Once I could, I restored the source. Then I saw your revert with the edit summary saying "copyright issues", and I thought "yikes". I realized that the video was just someone recording their TV screen. I looked for a better source and found a Washington Post article. I didn't even think to cite the Fox broadcast directly, which I didn't know how to do, so thanks also for the Provelt suggestion, which also reminded me that there's a bunch of gadgets and stuff in Preferences, which I completely forgot about. So, many thanks. KinkyLipids (talk) 17:40, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

bundy standoff copyedit

Hi KL. I'm unsure exactly what your objections are to my replacement of the Utah Territory paragraph. I'm glad you do not object to my reversion. I'm happy for you to maintain the Utah Territory history, while you revert the readability and grammar fixes you want. I'm unclear exactly what is the issue here. Are you certain that you mean to address me, instead of some other editor with some other revision here? Possibly you could isolate here with two blockquotes and bold the difficulty you have with the paragraph. I was unable to discern anything with the wiki tools. Best, 66.225.161.37 (talk) 00:13, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the relevant part of the original paragraph with everything removed/replaced by my edit in bold:

In 1848, the United States conquered from Mexico a large expanse of land in the south-western region of the United States, known as the Mexican Cession in the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. The Nevada Territory which resulted from the partition of the Utah Territory, and which became in 1864 the State of. The Bunkerville Allotment is part of the State of Nevada. Since then, the United States government has continuously owned the land in Nevada. Federal rangelands in Nevada are managed principally by either Bureau of Land Management or United States Forest Service.

Here's my additions in bold:

In 1848, the United States conquered a large expanse of land from Mexico in what is now the south-western region of the United States, known as the Mexican Cession in the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. The Nevada Territory became a state in 1864 and later included the Bunkerville Allotment. Since then, the United States government has continuously owned land in Nevada. Federal rangelands in Nevada are managed principally by either the Bureau of Land Management or the United States Forest Service.

KinkyLipids (talk) 00:44, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A beer for you!

I already gave you a barnstar, so now you get a stein of beer to thank you for your recent work on, and to celebrate, marriage quality in Utah and Indiana. Bearian (talk) 16:51, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Number of pages in The Waste Land

I should have mentioned this in my checkin for the citation you requested but I forgot about it then. Remember that Eliot added notes to the poem to justify printing it as a book. It is mentioned in the article (I think the section was "Structure". WikiParker (talk) 19:13, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The notes are one-third as many pages as the poem. I have a copy of the Tao Te Ching with only a handful of lines printed in the middle of each right-hand page. Did the publisher of The Waste Land use similar thickening tricks? On my copy, the poem and notes, along with extra footnotes, total only 22 pages long. KinkyLipids (talk) 21:25, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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BAMN

This edit was intended to add balance to the article by mimicking the structure of the paragraph directly above it. We have a third-party calling the TWP an "extremist group," so I added a third-party opinion of BAMN. None of this is original research, and all of it is relevant if we intend to have a neutral article. --50.46.239.77 (talk) 20:52, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit did contribute to a more neutral point of view. I have restored it, but with an alternate source that refers to the Sacramento riot, otherwise it would be original research. Thank you. KinkyLipids (talk) 21:11, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. --50.46.239.77 (talk) 21:15, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This issue has come up again on the article's talk page. I would appreciate it if you could add your input, so that we can begin to resolve this dispute. Thanks. --Eightofnine (talk) 23:14, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Trump executive order about immigration

Hi Kinky. The word "mild" is accurate and objective. You removed it and instead suggested that Obama's restrictions may have been just as strict as Trump's. So, what's undoubtedly going to happen here is that the entire mention of Obama is going to be removed by anti-Trump editors (not me). If you want that to happen, then by all means leave out "mild". 🙂 Cheers.Anythingyouwant (talk) 07:44, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Anythingyouwant: Thank you for your consideration. Obama's policy has been described as "extra scrutiny", so I thought that some might take issue with the adjective "mild" and replace it with something opposite yet subjective/suggestive/vague like "extra scrutiny" or "travel restrictions", and I thought I would rather change it myself to something more objective and clear to avoid people having a tug of war with adjectives. I didn't intend to make it seem like Obama's policy was as strict as Trump's, (is it strict to require visas?), and if anyone removes the entire Obama reference, that person will hopefully be in the minority (unless everyone thinks the lede is getting too long). On further thought, the word "milder" might work. Saying that an habanero pepper is "mild" would definitely be questionable, but saying it's "milder" than a ghost pepper would be accurate and objective. KinkyLipids (talk) 08:44, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Milder would be great, thanks. Can you please do it? I've already maxed out on reverts at that article for today, and if you do it then it won't be counted as a revert (because you're merely editing what you already wrote). Thanks again.Anythingyouwant (talk) 08:56, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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HopsonRoad, thank you. I propose moving the House and Senate sections to an article titled Congressional career of Bernie Sanders if the descriptions of notable votes become too unwieldy. I would be uncomfortable with those particular votes being identified as positions, since a lawmaker can vote for a bill while taking issue with parts of it. E.g., a vote to pass the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act is not necessarily a position in favor of more police, prisons, and death sentences. And as would be expected, his vote for that act is nowhere to be found in the article on his political positions. KinkyLipids (talk) 20:05, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your thoughtful reply, KinkyLipids. I would support creation of such an article. Probably some discussion is warranted at "Talk:Bernie..." on how it would dovetail with "Political positions...". Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 20:53, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Let me put it more bluntly:

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, you may be blocked from editing. Wikieditor19920 (talk) 19:16, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikieditor19920: I added a summary to the lede of content that was already sourced in the body, as was requested by the template at the top of the article. I generally keep in mind that there is a desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead, as per MOS:LEAD, and forgot that there is an exception for articles with controversy. Thank you for your good faith assumptions concerning my editing. KinkyLipids (talk) 19:41, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Morning!(I presume?)

At your leisure, could you peek at changes I've proposed on Talk:White_House_COVID-19_outbreak and see if you feel any merit inclusion in the article Feoffer (talk) 13:47, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please stay off my talk page.

Leave me alone. I have no interest in interacting with anyone who thinks "this is silly" is fine but thinks "you missed the joke" is a personal attack. Please don't post to my talk page and please don't ping me. Feel free to report me to ANI if you think I have violated a Wikipedia policy, but posting such accusations on article talk pages is highly inappropriate. --Guy Macon (talk) 20:06, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We were able to achieve consensus before in the October 6-7 section of the talk page of the article for the White House COVID-19 Outbreak. Then suddenly you started posting memes to attack me specifically, in violation of several policies. It was therefore appropriate to extend to you the courtesy of giving you the recommended warning messages to your talk page. You then tried to turn the tables around, arguing that the comment "this is silly" was in reference to you specifically and then you explicitly attacked me again.

Per WP:UP#OWN and WP:NOBAN, you cannot ban someone from your user talk page. If I have good reason to post on your talk page, such as when you violate the WP:PERSONALATTACKS policy again, I will post on your talk page to give you the recommended courtesy of warning you before you get blocked. —KinkyLipids (talk) 20:33, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Editors are indeed free to request editors to stay off their talk page per WP:NOBAN, and generally this should be respected. We had an ANI case where an editor refused to stay off an editor's user talk and got partial blocked. Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). 03:21, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yah, I’ve generally respected his request. He has so far not been as disruptive as before, so there has been no need to give him further warnings. Thanks. —KinkyLipids (talk) 03:28, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment at ANI sought

A complaint against me has be filed for being incivi to Guy. After he called me stupid, said I didn't deserve to edit here, and told my edits suck. In response, I cited the essay Wikipedia:No angry mastodons. That citation is now being used to suggest I'm too incivil to edit wikipedia.

I'm proud of my editing here. I've kept a focus on constructive edits, have tried hard no to restore any changes that were supported by more than one individual, and have tried hard to exhibit civility. I don't know that other have shown me the same courtesy. Anything insights you could provide to ANI would be most welcome. Feoffer (talk) 22:18, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Feoffer: All essays, including the one being used against you, are subordinate to guidelines, which are themselves subordinate to policies. I try to always cite policy, sometimes word-for-word. Whether or not other editors stonewall and become unresponsive is another issue.

I've disagreed with you at times and have reminded you as well about policy, but I appreciate your creation of the White House COVID-19 outbreak article and many of your contributions to it, and I appreciate that you are now trying hard (perhaps too hard) to be civil.

Could you provide links to where Guy Mason (I'm not sure what gender this editor is) called you stupid and said you didn't deserve to edit here? I saw the other comment they made, and they have also personally attacked me multiple times now and deleted my comments on the article talk page, for which I posted my own ANI thread. —KinkyLipids (talk) 22:48, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Guy wrote: What part of "Take it to talk" are you having trouble understanding?. This was very hurtful and made me feel I was being labelled stupid. I tried very hard to make only constructive edits and to respect existing objections. I was then told "If you can't grasp a simple concept like "at least one person objects to my edits. I need to go to the talk page and post 'I want to change the lead in the following way' " you shouldn't be editing Wikipedia". This again suggested I'm stupid, but now it added insult to injury: I shouldn't be editing wikipedia. ?!?!?

Is this really Wikipedia's workplace culture??? I've done nothing but offer good work, thousands of edits, free of charge; Now because of a few bad apples I'm being belittled for my efforts here? Feoffer (talk) 23:15, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Feoffer: I added these policy violations to the ANI discussion on Guy Macon's behavior. They were definitely making personal comments that were uncivil, aggressive, snide, and belittling, which violate many aspects of multiple policies, as I explained on ANI. There is no excuse for it. —KinkyLipids (talk) 01:16, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Feoffer: I just noticed that you posted about this edit in my ANI thread, but my thread was closed and is no longer being looked at. —KinkyLipids (talk) 17:51, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

White house covid, amid secrecy removed?

The "amid secrecy" text in the headings has been removed -- you might consider restoring "Hicks diagnosed amid secrecy" and "Trump diagnosed amid secrecy", while also restoring the npov-dispute tags. Feoffer (talk) 14:08, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Feoffer: Honestly I think it's too much effort for too little gain, sorry. And I have more of a problem with the neutrality tags than I do with the absence of secrecy being noted in the headings. I've explained why there's no actual WP:DUE issue with noting the secrecy in the headings, but other editors have stonewalled the discussion, and outside editors are likely to WP:DRIVEBYTAG. Maybe TheMusicExperimental would be more interested. —KinkyLipids (talk) 14:22, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Jade. I see that you've made some edits to the "NFT" article and would like to provide a new reliable source article for an important part of the history. Now that the article is protected, I was hoping you could help with these edits.

First, "colored coins" are fungible. Each "card" in the early trading card games has many copies and they are all the same. Thus they are NOT "non-fungible" tokens. Counterparty did, indeed, enable single-unit, non-divisible tokens which could be considered NFTs, but without metadata explicitly stating an asset claim. Here is one example: OLGA, minted 7 years ago (2014-06-12T18:26:11Z GMT) which the creator says was a gift to his girlfriend, Olga. Again, the Counterparty-based trading cards were minted with hundreds of units each.

Second, the line about Anil Dash should mention Namecoin as the underlying blockchain. Counterparty did not allow for metadata explicitly stating an asset claim. Namecoin does. What makes Anil Dash's NFT special is the claim to a specific artwork is embedded in the chain itself and tradeable as a "pointer" NFT. In this sense, it is no different than the beeple NFT or other such modern NFTs.

Third, the first pixel/artwork-on-chain (i.e. non-pointer) NFT project ever was Etheria which is referenced at the end of this Techcrunch article about Cryptopunks. It was launched in 2015, less than 3 months after Ethereum itself, presented at Ethereum's first developer conference, and was interacted with by the small Ethereum community at the time. Cryptopunks keep claiming they were the "first NFT" but the Techcrunch article and the blockchain itself disprove this assertion.

Etheria v1.0 contains the first on-chain artworks ever and the first blockchain UGC. Etheria (v1.1+) is notable for being exchange-tradeable before NFT exchanges even existed. No RS for these claims yet, though the blockchain history is raw, uncut truth and all of this can be verified on Etherscan.

Anyway, thank you for your attention to this hot topic.

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I restored lithium to the table, with new text, and replaced the flawed ref with two refs I believe support inclusion in the table. David notMD (talk) 14:02, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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