Talk:1903 New Jersey hurricane

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July 9, 2016	Good article nominee	Listed
October 31, 2016	Good topic candidate	Promoted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on April 9, 2007.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that the 1903 Vagabond Hurricane is the most recent Atlantic hurricane to strike the state of New Jersey, and briefly threatened the life of President Theodore Roosevelt?

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To do

Needs a light copyedit, and perhaps more info about the aftermath of the hurricane. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 22:56, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Info

The source that says this is the most recent hurricane to hit New Jersey is from 1993.

I believe another one hit in 2001 or 2003 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.150.93.41 (talk • contribs) 23:58, April 8, 2007 (UTC).

While other storms have had effects on New Jersey since 1903, this was the most recent one to pass directly over the state at hurricane strength. The other storms had weakened to a tropical storm or less. --Ajm⁸¹ 00:30, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Where schooners in Salisbury actually affected by the storm? Salisbury is located inland. I wonder if the boats were actually smaller, river-based craft.

Most recent????

From the lede of this article:

The 1903 New Jersey hurricane, also known as the Vagabond Hurricane by the The Press of Atlantic City, is the most recent Atlantic hurricane to strike the state of New Jersey.

Ah, no Atlantic hurricanes in 106 years? Please, no point in citing all the counterexamples. --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:19, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes; the storm was the most recent hurricane to strike the state of New Jersey. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 14:30, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vagabond?

Does anyone know why this hurricane was known as "Hurricane Vagabond"? It would be interesting to add this information...83.244.128.162 (talk) 13:20, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Newspapers.com

I've found some news articles from Newspapers.com and clipped them. This stuff should be added to the article. I will post them here for @Hurricanehink:.

The Piqua Daily Call, September 16 - Info for Atlantic City
The Washington Times, September 16 - Info for New York City
The Marion Star, September 17 - More info for New York City (plus a tidbit of a Hong Kong typhoon)
Reading Times, September 17 - Info for New Jersey in places outside of Atlantic City
The Inter Ocean, September 17 p. 1 - 5 deaths in Delaware and perhaps more useful info
The Inter Ocean, September 17 p. 3 - A little bit of info for Delaware and PA
Fitchburg Sentinel, September 17 - Info for Connecticut and Massachusetts

--12george1 (talk) 03:21, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: 12george1 (talk · contribs) 00:43, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Hurricanehink. Glad to see that you have nominated another article for GA. About time! :P As usual, fix/address the issues I have with the article in a timely manner and I will pass it.--12george1 (talk) 00:43, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"is the first known North Atlantic hurricane to make landfall in the state of New Jersey since records were kept starting in 1851." - Isn't it also the only hurricane to strike New Jersey since record keeping began?
True, for now! :P Added. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"The fourth hurricane of the season" - Wikilink to the 1903 Atlantic hurricane season
Done. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"the cyclone was first observed on " - It wouldn't be a bad idea to wikilink tropical cyclone here
Done. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"steadily strengthening to reach a peak intensity of 100 mph (155 km/h)." - Mention that this is Category 2 on the modern Saffir–Simpson hurricane wind scale
Done. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Why are none of the miles abbreviated in the MH? And no, you don't have Miles Lawrence as an excuse this time :P
Err, forgot?! ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"made landfall near Atlantic City, New Jersey shortly before" - Comma after New Jersey
Thanks. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"The estimated barometric pressure was 990 mbar (29 inHg)," - When I was writing the 1903 AHS, I saw that meta noted that the minimum barometric pressure was estimated by Jerry Jarrell of NHC in 1992. I think you should add that. But neither Partagas or meta mentioned why the maximum wind was 100 mph. I'm sure if you find out, you'll let me know soon enough :P
According to the Atlantic Hurricane Reanalysis:

The Best Track Committee should be aware of and provide flexibility for the extremely serious problems of intensity estimates in the 
existing HURDAT of 1886 through the early 1900s.  This database was not put together "more than a century" ago, rather it was decided upon back 
in the 1960s by Charlie Neumann and John Hope.

Further, it says that the winds were chosen somewhat arbitrarily (like older EPAC, most wind speeds were 50, 85, or 100 kt). Not sure how much (if any) should be in the article, but given what I read, I almost feel that the Jerry Jarrell bit is extraneous. IDK... more info is certainly good, but Jarrell could've based his estimate off of the original Neumann/Hope report, and I'm not sure where they got their info from :/ ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Include a date somewhere in the last three sentences of the MH, preferably the sentence mentioning the ET
Done! ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"The schooner Beatrice was lost near Chincoteague" - "Beatrice" should be italics, not bold.
Thanks. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I won't force you to include them, but there are some damage pics, like this and that

Wow, love that first pic! Damn, wish we knew the image status on that. Oh wait, it's 1903, so... uploading it :) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In the references, add |via=Newspapers.com and {{open access}} to all sources found on Newspapers.com

Thanks, good idea! ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for the review. Glad I finally got around to the article :P Hope it's fine now. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Alright then. Since you've fixed/addressed everything above, I will pass this article now.--12george1 (talk) 00:22, 9 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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