Draft talk:QC Terme
Autumn 2024 Educational Project Page
[edit]This page is part of an Educational Project by students of LIUC, Italy, with a course page at: [1]https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/LIUC_-_Universit%C3%A0_Cattaneo/Digital_Technology_(October_-_December,_2024) . The users of the group are new to the Wikipedia platform, have completed mandatory Training for Students, and are learning to edit following Wikipedia rules. They are open to any advice on improvements of the page in conformity to Wikipedia requirements and guidelines, and any help useful for the enhancement of the page will be gladly accepted. The student Usernames are:
- LIUCGaia03
- LiucMichela3
- LIUCstefano03
- LIUCSouad03
- LIUCLorenzo10
- LIUCFederico3
- DataExplorer4
Issues or questions can be referred direct to the users or to their tutor @Limelightangel
Limelightangel Limelightangel (talk) 14:06, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Feedback on draft 1/11/24
[edit]@LIUCGaia03, LiucMichela3, LIUCstefano03, LIUCSouad03, LIUCLorenzo10, LIUCFederico3, and DataExplorer4:
- note and use the guidelines and good practice on lead sections and look at good practice on other pages. See: Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section. See also Wikipedia:Writing_better_articles#Lead_section.
- note the guidelines on style. Statements using words like 'leading', 'success of' and 'fascinating' are inappropriate, subjective, biased and unsourced. See: Wikipedia:Manual of Style
- referencing: the reference for Maddalena, Roberta (2022-11-15) has been inserted incorrectly in the wrong place. It needs moving/creating where you wish the reference number to appear in the article, not below the References footer. See: Wikipedia:referencing for beginners
- grammar error in first sentence of History
- style: avoid unnecessary words like: 'In fact' (it should all be facts); 'draws inspiration'; 'crucial role'; etc. See Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Vocabulary
- Needs an Infobox: find a relevant Infobox template from Wikipedia:List of infoboxes and , and use this templare correctly, or find a similar page with a relevant Infobox, and use this. Note that these are templates with rules on how they are used and for acceptable field content/format
- missing sources: paragraphs 2 and 3 in History
- Note the guidance on this type of topic at: Wikipedia:Why can't I advertise my company or product on Wikipedia?
- ref. 2 (the company website) is not normally an acceptable source but relevant as an External link. See: Wikipedia:External links
- note the addition of ref. 1, which has been reused using the 'named reference' tool in the toolcar to create a refname tag to permit reuse of the same source with only 1 final reference for it. See: Help:Referencing_for_beginners
Limelightangel (talk) 13:44, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've tried to correct my errors. Now I think that the reference for Maddalena, Roberta... is placed in the right section. In addition I've corrected the grammar error in the first line of history paragraph and I've added the source of the other 2 paragraphs of history. LIUCSouad03 (talk) 17:29, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- note guidelines on Talk pages:
- they are not to state what has been done, which is available in the Page History
- avoid the personal tense
- see Wikipedia:talk
- Limelightangel (talk) 21:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- note guidelines on Talk pages:
- ref.3 is incorrect
- the External link is formated incorrectly. See Wikipedia:External links and how it is done better on other pages
- style/grammar: not 'a luxurious chain'
- do not link out to external sites from the text - use correct referencing. See Wikipedia:linking
- repetitive/duplicate content
Limelightangel (talk) 21:17, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Feedback on draft 12/11/24
[edit]@LIUCGaia03, LiucMichela3, LIUCstefano03, LIUCSouad03, LIUCLorenzo10, LIUCFederico3, and DataExplorer4:
- given the extensive issues listed here and in the earlier post it is advised to discuss & correctly 'check off' issues where they are listed when completed to manage these tasks. See Help:Talk
- the External link is formated incorrectly. See Wikipedia:External links and how it is done better on other pages
- referencing:
- inconsistencies in reference format related to use of upper case characters
- non-English rsources are acceptable but need to be complimented and balanced with English sources accessible to the platform's audience. See Wikipedia:Verifiability#Non-English_sources. There are acceptable english sources via Google in news and books, and in Scholar.
- ref. 8 incorrectly displays a page URL
- there are several incorrect in-line citations in the text on the resorts. See Help:referencing for beginners and do not link out from text to external websites
- several sections, including whole paragraphs, have no sources
- Needs an Infobox. See Help:Infobox. Understand what the Infobox is, find a relevant Infobox template from Wikipedia:List of infoboxes, or similar pages, and probably use Template:Infobox company. Use this template correctly. Note that these are templates with rules on how they are used and for acceptable field content/format
- note and use the guidelines and good practice on lead sections and look at good practice on other pages. Much of the current lead section content is in the wrong place or promotional in style. See: Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section. See also Wikipedia:Writing_better_articles#Lead_section.
- grammar issues e.g. 'the original plan was to transport thermal water by tank, since it was too complicated they opted to use the local water supply.'; 'that ,according to the "forest bathing",give energy to the human body. '; etc.
- duplicate content e.g. number of centers, treatments, etc.
- style: remove unnecessary and vague words e.g. 'Today,'; 'more precisely '; 'However'; etc. See Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Vocabulary
- topics on commercial entities. Note the guidance on this type of topic at: Wikipedia:Why can't I advertise my company or product on Wikipedia?. There are fundamental issues with addressing the policy and guidelines on this type of topic:
- style needs to be objective, unbiased and non-promotional. Examples failing this include: 'new era'; 'offer different comforts'; 'direct access to'; 'free Wi-Fi connection'; 'host exclusive business and private events'; 'panoramic gardens'; 'as well as discounts/benefits'; 'success draws heavily from its heritage.'; 'boasts features like'; 'offering views of Manhattan's skyline and the Statue of Liberty. '; 'not more than 1km away the ski slopes'; 'immersed among majestic marble staircases and frescoes'; '144 hectares of greenery'; 'situated at the foot of Mont Blanc.'; 'immersed in a Renaissance park'; 'gives a relaxing massage. '; 'a 5-minute ferry ride from downtown Manhattan.'; 'developed in synergy with local institutions:'; 'unique mountain landscapes in the famous french ski resort.'; etc. See Manual_of_Style#Vocabulary
- much of the tabulated information on the specific resorts is promotional and needs a critical review offactual relevance, subjectivity and acceptability, including but not limited to extensive inappropriate style e.g. 'A secret garden'; 'A purifying experience'; 'A pool with the view of the Brembana valley. '; etc.
- as an example of more objective factual content, authorative English sources and an acceptable source on resorts, see ref. 6 and the added text to the Chamonix resort sub-section
- content: look at good pages on commercial entities for indicative sections, content and acceptable sources. For example, an objective section on Finances is appropriate, as is data on corporate structure.
- there are no See Also links. See Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Layout#"See_also"_section
- needs adding to relevant Categories. See Help:Category
- the page needs relevant and acceptable images to support the relevant section text
- there is overlinking of several terms e.g. Zen, Orangery, etc. See Help:Linking and similar. Look at good practice on other pages.
Limelightangel (talk) 15:15, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
LIUCFederico3 (talk)Added the infobox with information taken from the chamber of commerce