Draft talk:Hassan Nisar Haripur
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Request for review of Draft:Hassan Nisar Haripur
[edit]his is a request for review of the draft article Draft:Hassan Nisar, a Pakistani entrepreneur, YouTuber, and philanthropist.
The draft has been created with links to reputable sources that demonstrate notable achievements and awards. The content has been written with a neutral and verifiable tone.
Disclosure: The creator of this draft has a connection to the subject, having worked with them on their initiatives.
Please review the draft to ensure it meets Wikipedia's guidelines and standards. Thank you for your time and expertise. Uohabacasu (talk) 12:29, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Source evaluation
[edit]This draft has been rejected but another source has been added, so I'll do a source evaluation here for the sources that are in the current version of the draft.
The sources are in four batches. The first one has citations that have been added to the draft in the correct manner to verify various bits of information.
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.dawn.com/news/1820867 | Press release | Promotional blurb about receiving the PSL award | ✘ No | |
https://pakobserver.net/hassan-nisar-founder-of-metrix-pakistan-honoured-with-hamaray-heroes-award-by-psl/ | The same press release as the previous source | ✘ No | ||
https://www.nation.com.pk/12-Jun-2024/metrix-pakistan-mansehra-college-sign-mou-for-cooperation | Press release about a partnership between his company and a university | Mentions his name in passing | ✘ No | |
https://www.radio.gov.pk/19-05-2024/three-day-tech-summit-highlighting-diverse-skills-concludes-in-islamabad | Press release about a technology conference / competition | Mentions his name in passing | ✘ No | |
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2467500/tech-summit-encourages-innovation | A slightly longer version of the same press release as the previous source | Mentions his name in passing | ✘ No | |
https://www.nation.com.pk/07-May-2024/fast-university-metrix-pakistan-organise-annual-nutec-event | Churnalism based on the same press release as the previous two sources | Mentions his name in passing | ✘ No | |
https://www.suchtv.pk/technology/item/117188-kpk-s-biggest-tech-summit-brings-web3-blockchain-to-limelight.html | Another press release for another tech conference / competition | ? | Mentions his name in passing | ✘ No |
https://www.dawn.com/news/1653693 | ~ Written by a journalist but largely based on an interview | Not about Nisar | ✘ No | |
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2319783/youtuber-discovers-eight-waterfalls-in-haripur | Mentions his name in passing | ✘ No | ||
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH-2YhCwFQU | ~ Interview with the person, entirely primary | Although this is a YouTube video (usually not reliable), this seems to be published by an official channel | ? Unlikely – it's a 5-minute segment with Nisar speaking, but it is apparently focused specifically on the PSL award. | ? Unknown |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
Then there's a list of nine external links with no explanation of how they relate to the info in the draft.
The third batch is a refdump placed after the last of the external links above, for some reason. Again no info on how they relate to the draft.
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://thefrontierpost.com/hassan-honored-with-hamaray-heroes-award-by-pakistan-super-league/ | Copy of the same press release as in sources 1 and 2 in the first batch above | ✘ No | ||
https://metrix.pk/hassan-nisar-founder-and-ceo-of-metrix-pakistan-honored-with-hamaray-heroes-award-by-psl/ | Yet another PR about the same topic as the previous – this one published on the company web site | ✘ No | ||
https://metrix.pk/ | His company's website | None at all, it's just the company site | ✘ No | |
https://metrix.pk/metrix-tech-summit-2022-summary/ | Company website, report on an event they arranged | None at all | ✘ No | |
https://metrix.pk/metrix-tech-fest-2023-press-release/ | Press release published on the company website. Probably the same PR as some of the previous ones, but at this point I am losing the will to live and won't go through them again | None at all | ✘ No | |
https://metrix.pk/metrix-pakistan-medical-camp-chamhad-abbottabad-summary/ | Yet another PR on company website | None at all | ✘ No | |
https://www.nation.com.pk/15-Jun-2024/hu-metrix-pakistan-organise-career-development-workshop | Press release about an event organised by the company | None at all | ✘ No | |
https://www.urdupoint.com/en/pakistan/hu-metrix-pakistan-organizes-day-long-career-1835566.html | LITERALLY THE SAME TEXT AS THE PREVIOUS SOURCE | ✘ No | ||
https://www.radio.gov.pk/11-07-2023/technology-festival-and-expo-begins-in-abbottabad-on-4th-august | PR for upcoming event co-organised by company. | None at all | ✘ No | |
https://www.app.com.pk/domestic/hu-matrix-pakistan-organizes-day-long-career-development-workshop/ | And we're back to the exact identical press release as in 8 and 9 above | ✘ No | ||
https://hu.edu.pk/news/412 | Press release published on university website, about upcoming event arranged by company | Doesn't even mention him | ✘ No | |
https://dailytimes.com.pk/1190110/metrix-pakistan-empowers-youth-with-second-edition-of-youth-summit-in-haripur/ | This press release is the same one as the 8th link in batch 2 | ✘ No | ||
https://dailytimes.com.pk/1121116/pta-and-metrix-pakistan-arrange-cyberspace-conference-in-abbottabad/ | Press release about the event also mentioned in sources 5 and 9 above. | ✘ No | ||
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And the final batch is again a linkdump placed after the previous one on the page.
I don't quite know what to say to anyone who believes that these sources do, in any shape or form whatsoever, meet WP:CORPDEPTH. --bonadea contributions talk 13:44, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- ...nor WP:BLP, which is the relevant one here. (Kind of drives my point home, that I didn't remember this was supposed to be about a person – so few of the sources do more than mention him by name!) --bonadea contributions talk 14:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Bonadea, You did a pretty good job. Majority of sources are WP:GUNREL. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 16:14, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Bonadea: Thanks for doing the legwork on this. With so many references, including in some major publications, but with the draft in such a poor state, it was difficult to see the wood from the trees. I'd started trying to group them, but gave up when they piled yet more references on. Good job. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 19:03, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Bonadea, You did a pretty good job. Majority of sources are WP:GUNREL. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 16:14, 18 June 2024 (UTC)