Talk:Fifty Vinc

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Fulfillment of the criteria in WP:MUSICBIO

@AngusWOOF Hey and thanks for your reply to my recent request. I didn’t knew that Discogs and IMDb are not reliable sources. Nevertheless, the sources from The Source, Westfälische Nachrichten, Backspin and the Swiss Hitparade should also work, as is it clearly identifiable that Fifty Vinc has written and produced several compositions that have been used by artists of relevance (from a view point of a non Wikipedia known). Matthew Tailor (talk) 15:02, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just found another source on the official Austrian charts: here Matthew Tailor (talk) 15:13, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

copied from Matthew Tailor's talk page:

Hello Angus. Thank you for your review. I would like to provide the following!

In regards to the criteria, I think the following are met:

Crieria for musicians and ensembles:

"Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart." - the Album "Ares" by rapper "Chirs Ares" (who also has a German Wikipedia page) was on Peak 44 in the official Swiss charts "Schweizer Hitparade" - 3 songs on the album was produced / composed by Fifty Vinc.
"Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc." - has provided multiple songs, multiple times for different TV shows such as UFC on ESPN, MTV Girls On Top

Criteria for composers and lyricists:

"Has had a work used as the basis for a later composition by a songwriter, composer or lyricist who meets the above criteria." - for example "Königsdisziplin" by NNOC feat. Liquit Walker, "Flaschenpost" by Mrs. Nina Chartier, "Lone Wolf" by Spirit Of Truth feat. Celph Titled & Ill Bill, Killer's Blood by Cryptik Soul feat. D12 and many more! (artists meet the criteria, mos tof them also have an own Wikipedia page, either in German or English language)

Matthew Tailor (talk) 15:45, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I forgot to mention the compositions he provided for the official Battle Of The Year soundtracks in several years which was released by the label Dominance Records. Matthew Tailor (talk) 19:00, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Music chart is for the musicians/bands performing, so it doesn't apply to composer.

providing the song, it is not clear what the song was provided. Did he make a theme song?

work as a basis: which one was the original work that everyone else adapted/copied/rended? AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 00:39, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @AngusWOOF, sorry I’ve accidentally answered on the talk page of mine already.

The songs I’ve mentioned are credited as by “producer: Fifty Vinc”. Same for the other songs. For example the song “BRDigung” by Chris Ares is biased on Fifty Vinc’s composition called ”Ferrum“ from the album “Hip Hop & Rap Beats 3 (Rap Instrumentals)” or the song “Killer’s Blood” by Cryptik Souls feat. D12 is baised on Fifty Vinc’s composition “Way Of The Warrior (Part 1)” from the album “Hard Rap Beats & Hip Hop Instrumentals”. Matthew Tailor (talk) 01:24, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@AngusWOOF I just wanted to ask if you saw my last message? I’ve also updated some information and added a new source. Matthew Tailor (talk) 07:53, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Maintenance-tag | COI & Undisclosed Paid

Hi @MaxnaCarta, can I ask why you added these tags to the draft? I am not a paid writer, nor do I have a close connection with the subject. I simply think, that Fifty Vinc is a notable person / musician / composer, that's it. Matthew Tailor (talk) 14:42, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Unsuccessful. BritneyErotica (talk) 07:40, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Fifty Vinc/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: BritneyErotica (talk · contribs) 07:40, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	From the talk page and other context clues I assume that English may not be the major contributors first language. While this isn't an issue, there are significant issues with readability (including grammar and syntax) that requires copy editing. For example, you should not start a sentence with "Because".
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Of the references that are actually reliable and secondary (not links to Spotify, YouTube or Genius), it fails to be fully cited with the source's date and author (for example citation [3]). Most references seem to be unreliable (corroborated in the Talk page).
	2c. it contains no original research.	Much of the article is supported by primary sources, such as references to music pages that contain no critical insight and simply provide basic detail like the lyrics to a song.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	The bulk of the article seems to be a glorified list of his releases, which I find unusual in the context of the article (It is not "Discography of Fifty Vinc").
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	I think the previously mentioned glorified list of musical releases may be unnecessary, especially with the Singles table below it.
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
	7. Overall assessment.	I have decided to quick fail this nomination as per WP:QF criterion 1 and WP:QF criterion 3. This includes the unresolved "pronunciation needed" tag, too few reliable references and that it is a long way from meeting a hybrid between it being well-written and broad in its coverage.

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.