Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Professional sound production

Help for Merging Technologies page

Hello. I need help in getting a page for Merging Technologies. Merging Technologies is a rather well known manufacturer in the professional audio world, mainly in classical music and jazz. Even if not as big as many other companies in this field, Merging and it's products are used by professionals all over the world. For example here is a review on the renowned Sound On Sound magazine, with a review of our latest product: https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/merging-anubis-music-mission

There are multiple other Sound On Sound (and many other magazines) reviews over the years of some other Merging Technologies products: https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/merginganubis, https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/merging-hapi, https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/merging-technologies-pyramix, https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/merging-technologies-pyramix-native-6

Another example, Gearspace (renowned audio pro forum, used to be called Gearslutz) has many threads about our products over the years, see https://gearspace.com/gear/merging-technologies. And here is a page on Merging's latest product: https://gearspace.com/gear/merging-technologies/anubis

Also Merging Technologies is already listed on some Wikipedia articles, for example here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AES67#Adoption. Or here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTP-MIDI#Companies/Projects_using_RTP-MIDI, or here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravenna_(networking)#Open_technology All those Wikipedia articles could be enhanced by putting a link to a page of the company.

So I would need help with getting the article written properly because I have been trying for many years and the page ends up being deleted. Is it possible to have help from an editor for this? Here is the draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Merging_Technologies

Nicowiki~enwiki (talk) 16:22, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

@Nicowiki~enwiki: We need to start with WP:DISCLOSE. Next, to allow the draft to be accepted, we need to see WP:THREE reliable sources with significant coverage of the company. The sources you list above are good but they are about products, not the company and they don't necessarily demonstrate the notability of the company (see WP:INHERIT). ~Kvng (talk) 14:17, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Kvng: Thanks for your answer Kvng. For WP:DISCLOSE, here is my user page [[1]] with the COI tag saying I work for Merging Technologies. And for the articles about Merging Technologies as a company, here are 3 articles that hopefully have significant coverage of the company, and are relevant enough sources: https://www.ravenna-network.com/partners/merging/, https://www.pme.ch/entreprises/2020/08/31/linvincible-genie-suisse-laudio (in french), https://www.proaudio.de/de/news/broadcast/23992-remote-sports-production-enabled-by-merging-technologies.html (this one about our products again, but has information on the company see last paragraph). I have limited these links to 3 in order to follow WP:THREE, but have some more in case it is needed. Also I would like to list again 3 Wikipedia pages that already mention the company Merging Technologies which is relevant in the pro audio world. The Wikipedia articles are: [[2]], [[3]], [[4]]. Thanks again for your input on this. Nicowiki~enwiki (talk) 12:28, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

@Nicowiki~enwiki, the Ravenna article is not a reliable source because it is not WP:INDEPENDENT (Merging is a Ravenna licensee). The other two are good and normally only two are required but we're going to have to go above and beyond in this case given the WP:COI. Please do provide one more.

Mentions in other Wikipedia articles is a good informal indication of notability but doesn't usually carry much weight with AfC reviewers or in deletion discussions. ~Kvng (talk) 00:21, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

@Kvng: Here is an article about Merging Technologies' CEO Claude Cellier (mentioned in the draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Merging_Technologies), and also about the company's history. The source is AES.org, which should be a reliable and independent source. link: https://www.aes.org/events/145/presenters/?ID=7812 Nicowiki~enwiki (talk) 17:29, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@Kvng: Hi Kvng, can you please review the last link I furnished in my reply above? The draft was deleted again on May 1st due to inactivity. I have asked for un-deletion [[5]]. We have recently started collaborating with Lawo, here is a fresh article that speaks of Merging Technologies in relation with Lawo: https://lawo.com/lawo-welcomes-merging-technologies-as-first-among-home-equals/. Hopefully this helps a bit more; as the title says, please help me get an article for Merging Technologies.

@Nicowiki~enwiki: please WP:PING me again when the draft has been restored and you've added any new sources and I'll have a look. ~Kvng (talk) 17:22, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

@Kvng: Hi Kvng, the draft has been restored, here it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Merging_Technologies. The new sources are this one on aes.org: https://www.aes.org/events/145/presenters/?ID=7812 (not new, but you have not reviewed it in my reply above), and this link which is recent (a collaboration with Lawo) https://lawo.com/lawo-welcomes-merging-technologies-as-first-among-home-equals/. Thanks for your help. Nicowiki~enwiki (talk) 14:33, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

@Kvng: Hi Kvng, for closure of this question, can you please let me know here if the aes.org source is not accepted and why? You mentioned above about sources furnished: "The other two are good and normally only two are required but we're going to have to go above and beyond in this case", and I've furnished the aes.org link (https://www.aes.org/events/145/presenters/?ID=7812) that is WP:INDEPENDENT. Is this not enough still?

@Nicowiki~enwiki: see my response at Draft talk:Merging Technologies#WP:THREE. ~Kvng (talk) 14:38, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

@Kvng: Thanks for the reply. ~Nicowiki~enwiki (talk) 12:39, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@Kvng: Hi Kvng, this article has been published recently: https://audioxpress.com/news/merging-technologies-creates-scalable-high-performance-aes67-solution-based-on-analog-devices-sharc-socs, please review it. It says: "Merging Technologies’ experience in the audio over IP (AoIP) field (Ravenna/AES67) and Analog Device's experience in unified communications and pro-audio applications, has led to a collaboration that broadens the range of AoIP solutions for manufacturers of electronics and ultimately integrators."

Is this not enough to be listed as an audio pro company on Wikipedia?

Here are other WP:INDEPENDENT sources with that same info: https://www.proavl-asia.com/details/70341-merging-announces-analogue-aes67-solution-for-sharc-socs, https://www.fast-and-wide.com/faw-news/fast-news/16965-merging-launches-sharc-socs-aes-67-solution, "Merging has been one of the driving forces of Ravenna since its conception. Availability of AoIP technology allows a broader audience to AES67 technology, and enables OEMs to design AES67-based products"

~Nicowiki~enwiki (talk) 09:14, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

We are not clearly over the hump here. An WP:AFD discussion would provide a definitive answer. Normally I'd say, let's accept it and see what happens but since there's a COI in play here, I don't think that's a good idea. ~Kvng (talk) 13:32, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

@Kvng: Hi Kvng. There have been some big news for Merging Technologies, which is that we have been acquired by Sennheiser and will be collaborating with Neumann.Berlin under the same umbrella. Here are some links to reputable pro audio sources: https://www.avinteractive.com/news/audio/neumann-berlin-and-merging-technologies-join-forces-06-07-2022/, https://www.inavateonthenet.net/news/article/neumann-and-merging-technologies-to-collaborate-in-sennheiser-takeover, https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/production-expert-1/sennheiser-acquires-merging-technologies, https://www.proaudio.de/de/news/recording/26594-neumann-und-merging-technologies-buendeln-kraefte.html, and there are many more. Surely this is now enough to be on Wikipedia?! ~Nicowiki~enwiki (talk) 16:49, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Well, we need to see WP:INDEPENDENT sources and none of these write ups has a byline. Trade publications do frequently publish press releases with minimal editorial review and thus no byline and many Wikipedia editors do not consider this to be independent reporting. Certainly an addition to Georg Neumann should be welcome and once that material has been added we can create a Merging Technologies WP:REDIRECT to help readers find it. And/or we can wait until there is more independent coverage of the acquisition and finish the article then. ~Kvng (talk) 19:12, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

@Kvng: Hi Kvng, here are some articles with a byline: https://audioxpress.com/news/sennheiser-acquires-merging-technologies-to-reinforce-its-growth-strategy-for-neumann, https://www.cetoday.ch/news/2022-07-05/schweizer-firma-fuer-audio-aufnahmesysteme-partnert-mit-neumannberlin, https://www.bonedo.de/artikel/sennheiser-expandiert-wieder-neumann-und-merging-technologies-ab-sofort-unter-einem-dach/ (talk) 08:10, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Ok, yes, I think that does it! Can you add these to the draft? ~Kvng (talk) 17:10, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Great, here is the edit on the draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Merging_Technologies#History ~Nicowiki~enwiki (talk) 11:09, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

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