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September 2016
[edit]Labor Day (in U.S.) is September 5. How about something for female labor organizers? (But let's not call it "Women In Labor".) Many of the strikers in the 1912 Lawrence textile strike were women, for example. Rosekelleher (talk) 16:49, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- I like the idea. @Rosiestep, Megalibrarygirl, and Ipigott: thoughts? Rosina Tucker would be a good one to [1] add. SusunW (talk) 16:30, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- As would Maida Springer Kemp [2], [3], [4] SusunW (talk) 16:37, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- I like that too. There are number of "trade unionists" on the activists list. I can separate them out. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:46, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yay! Megalibrarygirl can you also pull out nurses separately? I'll be glad to add names and sources to help. Thank you Rosekelleher for a great idea :) SusunW (talk) 17:18, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Love it! Let's do it! September = Activists + Nurses. I really do like 2 (or more) simultaneous events as I tend to get bored spending a whole month focusing on just one thing. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:24, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Okay two more and then I'm going to write an article. Shirley Ware [5], [6] and I think we will have to do this one as an event because I doubt we will discover the names of the Mexican American women who carried on this strike. Empire Zinc Strike (aka Salt of the Earth Strike). When their husbands were forced off the picket lines, the wives kept the strike going. A movie was made, but we don't have an article on the actual strike. [7], [8], [9] SusunW (talk) 17:53, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Rosiestep, SusunW, Rosekelleher, and Megalibrarygirl: I certainly think we should cover nurses but I was wondering if we should not widen it to "Women in health care" as that would cover women physicians, women in medical research, and other health professionals in addition to women in nursing. As for Labor Day, it is not just a U.S. event, it is also celebrated in Canada. Maybe there are Canadian activists who should be covered too.--Ipigott (talk) 07:17, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
- Ipigott Lots of countries celebrate labor day, but usually on my birthday in May. I think we don't have to worry too much if our timelines don't fall in line with holidays, and can as always have an international focus. It doesn't matter to me if we have a broad focus on health professionals, but I had thought of nurses because we have done scientists and that includes many doctors but not really nurses. Nurses are usually the forgotten entity. Nurses are laborers whose work and contributions are often buried behind their more illustrious employers -- soldiers, doctors, hospitals, etc. SusunW (talk) 16:20, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
- SusunW We're certainly learning a lot more about you in these discussions, your birthday on May Day and your planned walking holiday in eastern Europe. I thought the idea of writing about Labor Day was because in North American it falls in September but if you want to extend it to the rest of the world, that's fine with me. (Btw, many countries do not celebrate workers on May Day and it is not a holiday in all European countries.) As you seem keen to cover various interests in the same month, perhaps we could devote the first two weeks of September to "Women in nursing" (or just "Nurses" if you prefer, although the profession seems to be increasingly open up to men too), while the second half of the month could perhaps address other women in health. I think we need to go beyond the scientists as many women are active at the organizational and philanthropic levels too and many have been instrumental in fighting for improvements to health services in the third world. But that is only a suggestion and I am, as always, happy to accept the general consensus.--Ipigott (talk) 16:45, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
- Ipigott LOL, yes, I do have a real life off WP, I know that is shocking to some ;) I think the US holiday inspired the idea, but I don't think we have to stick to so narrow a view. (I've got some Caribbean women labor leaders ready to add to the list when it's up and going). Labor is typically underrepresented so it's a great focus area IMO. And yes, I totally agree that the organizational and philanthropic areas are also a good focus area. I'm really liking the new tabs so we can just pick from a variety of topics throughout the month and like you am happy to accept the group consensus. SusunW (talk) 16:57, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Ipigott and SusunW: I have a list of nurses here and I created this page Worker's rights, which I'm thinking maybe needs to be renamed? What do you think? I'll add more to the list, too. I know there's more than what I gleaned off the activists, so they are lurking out there somewhere. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:53, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
- Megalibrarygirl I'd just call it labor activists. And THANKS! you rock!!!!! SusunW (talk) 17:01, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Ipigott and SusunW: I have a list of nurses here and I created this page Worker's rights, which I'm thinking maybe needs to be renamed? What do you think? I'll add more to the list, too. I know there's more than what I gleaned off the activists, so they are lurking out there somewhere. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:53, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
- Ipigott LOL, yes, I do have a real life off WP, I know that is shocking to some ;) I think the US holiday inspired the idea, but I don't think we have to stick to so narrow a view. (I've got some Caribbean women labor leaders ready to add to the list when it's up and going). Labor is typically underrepresented so it's a great focus area IMO. And yes, I totally agree that the organizational and philanthropic areas are also a good focus area. I'm really liking the new tabs so we can just pick from a variety of topics throughout the month and like you am happy to accept the group consensus. SusunW (talk) 16:57, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
- SusunW We're certainly learning a lot more about you in these discussions, your birthday on May Day and your planned walking holiday in eastern Europe. I thought the idea of writing about Labor Day was because in North American it falls in September but if you want to extend it to the rest of the world, that's fine with me. (Btw, many countries do not celebrate workers on May Day and it is not a holiday in all European countries.) As you seem keen to cover various interests in the same month, perhaps we could devote the first two weeks of September to "Women in nursing" (or just "Nurses" if you prefer, although the profession seems to be increasingly open up to men too), while the second half of the month could perhaps address other women in health. I think we need to go beyond the scientists as many women are active at the organizational and philanthropic levels too and many have been instrumental in fighting for improvements to health services in the third world. But that is only a suggestion and I am, as always, happy to accept the general consensus.--Ipigott (talk) 16:45, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
- Ipigott Lots of countries celebrate labor day, but usually on my birthday in May. I think we don't have to worry too much if our timelines don't fall in line with holidays, and can as always have an international focus. It doesn't matter to me if we have a broad focus on health professionals, but I had thought of nurses because we have done scientists and that includes many doctors but not really nurses. Nurses are usually the forgotten entity. Nurses are laborers whose work and contributions are often buried behind their more illustrious employers -- soldiers, doctors, hospitals, etc. SusunW (talk) 16:20, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Rosiestep, SusunW, Rosekelleher, and Megalibrarygirl: I certainly think we should cover nurses but I was wondering if we should not widen it to "Women in health care" as that would cover women physicians, women in medical research, and other health professionals in addition to women in nursing. As for Labor Day, it is not just a U.S. event, it is also celebrated in Canada. Maybe there are Canadian activists who should be covered too.--Ipigott (talk) 07:17, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
- Okay two more and then I'm going to write an article. Shirley Ware [5], [6] and I think we will have to do this one as an event because I doubt we will discover the names of the Mexican American women who carried on this strike. Empire Zinc Strike (aka Salt of the Earth Strike). When their husbands were forced off the picket lines, the wives kept the strike going. A movie was made, but we don't have an article on the actual strike. [7], [8], [9] SusunW (talk) 17:53, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Love it! Let's do it! September = Activists + Nurses. I really do like 2 (or more) simultaneous events as I tend to get bored spending a whole month focusing on just one thing. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:24, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yay! Megalibrarygirl can you also pull out nurses separately? I'll be glad to add names and sources to help. Thank you Rosekelleher for a great idea :) SusunW (talk) 17:18, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- I like that too. There are number of "trade unionists" on the activists list. I can separate them out. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:46, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- As would Maida Springer Kemp [2], [3], [4] SusunW (talk) 16:37, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- How about Women mountaneers?Nvvchar. 11:26, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
- I like the idea. @Rosiestep, Megalibrarygirl, and Ipigott: thoughts? Rosina Tucker would be a good one to [1] add. SusunW (talk) 16:30, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Rosiestep, SusunW, Megalibrarygirl, Victuallers. For the record, there has been a suggestion here that we should take part in an editathon on Nigerian women from 20 September to 20 October. I think we can accommodate this along with our other editathons. I am not entirely clear about our plans for October. Do we all agree to architects and archeologists (see below)?--Ipigott (talk) 14:19, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- This gets my vote - finding Nigerian women at all will be tricky. But finding Nigerian nurses or Nigerian women labour activists is even trickier. I did manage to clear out nearly all the leads we had for Nigerians - but thats a good reason to persevere - we need more. Some more non US/UK would score double on our drive to remove systemic bias. Victuallers (talk) 14:47, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- I'll try to get a list of Nigerian women together. I've seen a few recently that maybe Victuallers hasn't cleared out yet. ;) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:15, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- This gets my vote - finding Nigerian women at all will be tricky. But finding Nigerian nurses or Nigerian women labour activists is even trickier. I did manage to clear out nearly all the leads we had for Nigerians - but thats a good reason to persevere - we need more. Some more non US/UK would score double on our drive to remove systemic bias. Victuallers (talk) 14:47, 12 September 2016 (UTC)