Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea/Archive 11

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Kim Jong-un.jpg

image:Kim Jong-un.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 04:38, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

남산 and 南山

Are these common ways of writing the same thing in Korean? 南山 is a disambiguation page on English WP and includes several entries for Namshan. The linked article on the Korean WP is [1], which to my ignorant eyes appears to be a different set of characters, however 南山 does appear in parentheses several times in the article, thus my question. The reason I'm asking is that 南山 has been nominated for deletion, and I'm wondering if it's reasonable to include the Namshan entries on the page.--Wikimedes (talk) 19:02, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

They are the same word, one in the hangul form and the other in the hanja form. -- 李博杰 | —Talk contribs email 03:33, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks.--Wikimedes (talk) 02:54, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Removal of Korean-language names

Somebody is making a concerted effort to remove names in Hangul from the lead sentence of articles about Korean people. If interested, please see discussion at ANI. Thanks. – Wdchk (talk) 02:10, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

There was a discussion at one of the guideline pages pushing for the removal of non-Latin-characters from the intro sentences as well. See #MOS discussion about removing non-Roman script names from lede sentence. Perhaps they are related? -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 07:05, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

South Jeolla website

Anyone else having trouble accessing http://www.jeonnam.go.kr/? I have refreshed staistical data of the provinces from the official provincial websites but this one has not been accessible for months now. Anyone knows how to contact the province to let them know about this issue? Thanks a lot Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 08:27, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Works for me. Should contact your ISP. — Lfdder (talk) 08:43, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Hm. I tried several times, from home, from the office (different internet provider there), from Chrome, IE and FF... Doesn't work... Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 09:10, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

OK, I tried from yet another computer in another system and it is working from there. It seems like the website tries to make me download an exe file and for this reason my usual computers (office and home) are filtering the website. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 10:43, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Jms in vietnam.jpg

Destroyed8H Cromwell.jpg

image:Destroyed8H Cromwell.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 07:05, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Can you help expand Yunggimun into a DYK?

I started Yunggimun, as I found a passing claim in a book I am reading - that it is "the oldest style of Korean pottery" - interesting. But I cannot find enough in English or Polish sources to even make half a stub; perhaps a Korean speaker could help expand this? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:57, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Heritage preservation in South Korea

Hello guys! I created this article to have a comprehensive starting point for the many scattered articles about heritage preservation. I also created a complementing navbox. Could we do a peer review on the article? I would like to nominate it for GA or FA. Kamsahamnida! Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 11:48, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

President Geun-hye.png

image:President Geun-hye.png has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:51, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Notability issue on Shin KwangHo

I believe Shin KwangHo is a notable figure in the art world. I have added more citations as well and more text. Can someone take a look at this and see if notability is an issue or not? Thank you. (Pastelchu (talk) 23:37, 6 August 2013 (UTC))

Hmmm, I am not familiar with the sources used. Wouldn't prod it on sight, but that's as far as I can go with this issue without a source review for which I don't have time. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:19, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Korean Provinces

At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2013_August_4, a discussion is opened to delete the template "Infobox Korean Provinces". May be you have an opinion about this discussion. Remark: at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2013_August_5, there is another discussion about deleting the template "Infobox Province of China (PRC)" Pldx1 (talk) 07:41, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Request for comment

There is an on-going dispute on the article North Korea's cult of personality, please see the RfC section of the talk page here. Coinmanj (talk) 23:19, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Chinese style name

The "style name" or "courtesy name" article is up for renaming, see talk:Chinese style name -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 23:30, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

starting a Teaching with Wikipedia program in Korea

I've come to Korea in February and I work as a professor of sociology at Hanyang University. In US I've been doing a lot of teaching with Wikipedia (Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects/User:Piotrus), and I'd like to do so here as well. After my first Spring semester I have however came to the conclusion that while my lectures are in English, my students English skills are not good enough for them to focus on contributing solely to English Wikipedia; therefore I'd like to have them contribute at least partially to Korean Wikipedia. As I cannot speak Korean I would need assistance from some Korean speakers who would like to become Campus Ambassadors (https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Campus_Ambassador). I wonder if there are any Korean Wikipedians who would like to assist me with this?

I can train people to become Campus Ambassadors (it's not difficult, I just need to spend one few hour session with you showing you some case studies and tools), and then we would practice in my courses this Fall. Ambassador duties would be primarily related to interacting with students (in Korean Wikipedia in Korean), making sure they are doing constructive and on topic edits, and they have somebody to ask for help. Coming to class twice or so during the course term to meet with students in person, answer their questions, and such, is helpful, too. This is not a very demanding activity, I'd estimate that it shouldn't take more than 10 or so hours of your time for the entire semester, 20 at max (that counts the initial training, travel time for physical meetings, and time spent online interacting with students). Starting Spring, hopefully, we may be able to recruit other professors; I plan on holding a workshop about this for interested faculty, but I cannot do so until after I have at least some confirmed Korean-speaking ambassadors to help me.

For Wikipedia, this means more active editors and more articles. In US, my students were able to produce about ~20 Good Articles on English Wikipedia and few dozen other nice articles over the ~4 or so years I was teaching there.

For those of you who become CAs, in addition to helping Wikipedia, this is also something to add on your CV (good for teaching careers, good for those planning on studying abroad as it helps to show innovative extra curricular activities), and WMF may send you swag like shirts, stickers, bags and similar goodies. So, particularly for those of you who are currently at the university, think of it as a good career move. This is not only for students (although majority of CA begin as students). If you are an academic instructor (professor), this is good for our careers, too (I am speaking from personal experience here, too). If you are a teacher and would like to get on board of this, I'd be happy to help you out, too.

Let me know if you are interested in this, ideally I would like to meet with interested volunteers in August. I will have two classes each with ~30 or so students contributing to Wikipedias (English and Korean) beginning in September and I really hope to get some assistance from Korean Wikipedians for that. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:56, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

I'll take you under my wing as I can provide Regional Ambassador services. Luckily, I'm exactly 12 hours away, so the times work out conveniently on my end, as long as no one attempts to do anything in the afternoon. In that sense, if anyone is interested, let me know, and I can interview prospective candidates and grant ones deem qualified the rights. I would encourage anyone who is interested to apply, as this has the potential for a very successful program, as long as people are aware of the norms of both projects (i.e. naming conventions on the Sea of Japan, etc.). Kevin Rutherford (talk) 04:08, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Have you thought of also using simple: ? The Simple English Wikipedia, if their English skills are not sufficient for English Wikipedia, perhaps it is sufficient for SIMPLE? -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:05, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Simple is no solution, I am afraid. The problem is that the content produced by the students looks for the most part like the output of a machine translation: full or errors of all kind. Instead of writing simple English sentences (which are perfectly fine on regular Wikipedia, too), they try to produce complex English ones (and yes, I've tried asking them to keep it simple, which did not appear to affect the problem at all). If anybody is interested in the quality of content produced, please see here. The potential is there, but without a Korean speaker to help me, I am not going to be able to harness it properly, I am afraid. PS. Can anyone repost my request at Korean Wikipedia? So far I posted to the wikimedia-kr@lists.wikimedia.org and here but I haven't heard from a single interested volunteer :( --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:30, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't think that's anything a copy editing group couldn't fix, as my experience with Koreans who are learning English is that they are very grateful when you help them out. I'm wondering Piotr if you could find anyone who also has a near-native level of English skill and see if they could help you, because it might lessen some of the burden that you might face. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:50, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

I know such people, but none of those I know seemed interested in helping out as a CA. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:20, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi! :) I'm a rather new (and inactive) user here, but Kevin told me I might be of some help, since I'm a Korean who can speak English. I'm entering International School next week, so I might not have enough time after that, but I'll be glad to help in any way until then. Thanks, Bella ^{tête-à-tête} 06:01, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Belinda, I gather you would be able to help only online as an Online Ambassador, not in person, right? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:13, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, my school is in Ilsan so I probably won't be able to do anything offline. I'm not exactly sure what an Online Ambassador is though; tell me what I can do. :) Bella ^{tête-à-tête} 12:41, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, that's fine. While you may want to read about Wikipedia:Ambassadors, what I'd need help with is monitoring student activities on Korean Wikipedia. I have two courses, to which I'd invite you to add yourself (as an Online Ambassador): Education Program:Hanyang University/Sociology of Globalization (Fall 2013) and Education Program:Hanyang University/ English Readings in Information Sociology: Understanding Wikipedia (Fall 2013)

In the globalization one, the students will be tasked with translating an article (one article for one student) from English to Korean Wikipedia. All that will be needed is that by mid November when they are posting them to Korean Wikipedia those articles are given a brief look over - to make sure they are properly translated (i.e. the students didn't simply paste the English text into Google translate and are trying to pass the resulting half-gibberish as their work). They may also have trouble formatting the articles, so they may benefit from some advice on that.

For the wiki course, majority of the work will be done on English Wikipedia, so I'll supervise it myself. The students however will be required to make 5 edits to Korean Wikipedia each week, so their edits, particularly in the beginning, may also require an occasional supervision, to make sure they are not getting themselves into trouble.

I hope we will get assistance from some additional ambassadors (I'd like to train a group) so hopefully we will get more help! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:18, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I'll see what I can do! Bella ^{tête-à-tête} 11:35, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:User pyongyang

Template:User pyongyang has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. 76.65.128.222 (talk) 02:07, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:User North Korea

Template:User North Korea has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. 76.65.128.222 (talk) 02:07, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians in North Korea

Category:Wikipedians in North Korea, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 02:15, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians in Pyongyang

Category:Wikipedians in Pyongyang, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 02:15, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

General Yun Gwan's Photo - Recommend Replacing the Caricature

Recommend either replacing the caricature with the statue memorialized by the Republic of Korea government. See attachment.

Subject: Article on Yun Gwan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yun_Gwan

I can't seem to attach the photo. Please contact me on my email: insungolee@gmail.com and whomever does the editing, I will send you the photo. Thanks in advance.

InSung Oaks Lee

안녕하세요, assistance requested

The article on the 29 Second Film Festival is currently at AFD. It would be greatly appreciated if Korean-reading Wikipedians could visit the article and expand on its sourcing and offer evaluations of the sources that were brought forward at the AFD itself. Thank you, Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 03:32, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Korean name of Kim Am?

I wrote a DYK for Kim Am, but I can't even find his Korean name. If someone can, please add it to the article, and if there's an article on ko wiki, please link it. Also, feel free to expand this with Korean sources; I think I exhausted all English ones. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:49, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/김암 --- Pldx1 (talk) 17:14, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Transliteration of Cities, Towns, and Provinces of the Philippines into Hangul

Good evening! I am originally from WikiProject Philippines. And I would like to offer help to WikiProject Korea by translating cities, towns, and provinces of the Philippines into Hangul so as to aid Korean Wikipedians who are interested in creating, editing, and expanding articles that are related to the Philippines. I hope for the immediate response. Thanks! - Merrick Lee 23:47, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Merge request here. Templates {{Pasta}} and {{Chinese noodles}} have been proposed to be merged into {{Noodle}}. --Cold Season (talk) 22:41, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

(South Korean FOO)

Talk:Yuri (Korean singer) ... what is the guideline? In ictu oculi (talk) 13:40, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Basic grammar check

I started a quick stub at ko:함대 컬렉션, however I'm not too confident on my grammar. Does anyone feel like double-checking if what I've written makes grammatical sense? Thanks. --benlisquare_T•C•E 09:17, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Jung Myung Seok

Seeking uninvolved admins to take a good look at the article on Jung Myung Seok (a Korean religious leader). This article has been the subject of edit-warring and both full and semi-protection for over a year. I listed it several days ago at WP:ANI (see here), but no one has responded so far. Thanks. — Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 19:17, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

"Veterans Day"

Indirectly, this concerns also Veterans Day (South Korea). -- 签名 _sig at 08:21, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Jung Myung Seok, again — translations for Korean quotations and headlines

I'd like to ask anyone here who speaks Korean (I mean anyone — not just uninvolved admins) to look at the Jung Myung Seok article and help supply decent English translations of the Korean-language quotations and headlines in the cited news stories in the footnote references. Several of the source cites (I count five right now) are accompanied by one-sentence excerpts in Korean; per WP:NONENG, we are supposed to include English translations of these quotations alongside the original Korean text. Also, the headlines (titles) of several of the Korean news stories are currently accompanied by English translations of dubious quality (my favourite is "JMS (Jeong Myeong Seok) seeds, rape 60 million won alimony confirmed followers") — we need to clean these up. The idea here is that non-English sources are supposed to include enough English translation to allow readers and editors to verify that the sources are really substantiating the statements in the article body to which they are attached. This is especially important for an article like this, on a highly controversial topic. Thanks for any help. — Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 17:34, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Troop transport

In 1960 how long did the US Army transport ships take to transport troops from Okland CA to Korea — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.200.148.25 (talk) 13:55, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Ban Ki-moon FAR

I have nominated Ban Ki-moon for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. -- Khazar2 (talk) 17:04, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

English exonyms for place names

English_exonyms#Korea. Can someone check this please. See also article Talk. Many thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:29, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Activity

Hello! I've been looking around the WP:KO portal for a while, and I've noticed that most of the information was outdated, unkempt, or just discarded. So I was wondering if anyone was active here. So here goes: Is anyone here? Can you read this? If you can, please comment below. Just checking. Kkj11210 (talk) 15:35, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

There's several active users watching this talk page, but I don't think anyone has been updating the main project page, no. quant18 (talk) 04:09, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Do you know who's in charge of the main project page? Or anyone who's been working on it? Kkj11210 (talk) 05:54, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, by definition (wp:OWN), no one person nor indeed body of people are ever in charge of a WP article or project. Barring a handful of paid WP employees, all editors are volunteers. All editors' free time comes in fits and starts, so you are as much free as A.N.Other to do things and suggest things on any project, and will be welcomed for your time and effort.

As for who's working on Wikipedia:WikiProject_Korea ... well, of course one can see whoever's recently updated the main page [like this].

And to see who's recently edited any page tagged as associated with the Korea project, one can follow this link.Trafford09 (talk) 10:35, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Over 600 editors have Korea on their watchlist - per Wikipedia:WikiProject_Korea#Watchers. Trafford09 (talk) 09:26, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I was just wondering if anyone wanted to update the major project pages, seeing that the project's not being used very much recently. Kkj11210 (talk) 04:41, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Be bold and update whatever you want; as noted, this semi-active project doesn't have any regular maintenance team. Heck, it's not even active enough to answer half of the questions here :( --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:18, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Re "the project's not being used very much recently": well, that may appear so, but of course there may be many readers who are drawn to the project page and, from there, proceed to view &/or edit articles associated with the project. Finding their numbers takes more research! Trafford09 (talk) 10:35, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, I'm updating the active user list right now, so we'll see Kkj11210 (talk) 03:39, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

I somehow got the feeling that this WikiProject has become relatively dead this year. It was much more active a few years ago, but somehow things have changed lately. --benlisquare_T•C•E 06:15, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

I am relatively new around here, so I don't really know who the active members are (or used to be). But for those of you who know: check the activity levels of your colleagues, give them a barnstar where applicable, try to engage them in some initiative. Remind them that it's fun to be here :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:31, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

I've updated the user list and alphabetized it, so we know who's active. I'm thinking about sending a message to all the people who's still active and on the list. How is it? Kkj11210 (talk) 06:40, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Good job. I'm glad that there are people still active and contributing. Jae ₩on (Deposit) 03:27, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Han China and Korea

There is a deletion request of a political map of Han China which consistently portrays Korea as part of Han China (among many other issues). Gun Powder Ma (talk) 16:40, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Korean prosecution service에 대한 english content

많이 왜곡되고 특정 지지세력-현재 한국의 진보세력이라고 일컬어지는 분들이 좋아할 만한 내용으로 가득하네요. 객관성이 떨어진다고 보여집니다. 적어도 한국 법이 어떤 원리애 따라 제정되고 검찰이 어떤 위치를 갖는지 법률적인 관점이 아니라 특정 세력-국회법사위나 자칭 진보세력들이 원하는대로 글을 썼다는 것이 명백하개 보여집니다.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Prosecutors%27_Office_of_the_Republic_of_Korea

This article is too biased and negative toward korean prosecution service in general. It seems that the author described Korean prosecution service from too controversial cases. Actually the right wing(half of the population supports some prosecution cases while the left wing blames them. The author wrote and understand all the mentioned cases from radical or leftist views.

WP:AGF. You should not assume author wrote like that. --레비Revi^con 05:39, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Kim family

Various North Korean Kim communist dynasty pages are up for renaming, see talk:Kim family , Template talk:Family of Kim Jong-il , Template talk:Kim Jong-il family tree for the discussions -- 65.94.76.3 (talk) 00:58, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Someone renamed Category:Kim Il-sung family to Category:Kim family, considering the number of people named Kim with articles, this is an unhelpful and disruptive rename -- 65.94.76.3 (talk) 12:37, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

SK government ministries and agencies moving to Sejong City

Heads up! Tons of South Korean government agencies and ministries are moving to Sejong City. It means having to update links to ministries from Seoul districts and Gyeonggi Province municipalities to state that those ministries and agencies are gone. The articles on the ministries and agencies themselves need to be updated. WhisperToMe (talk) 12:01, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Korean name of Korea Office of Civil Aviation (KOCA)?

What is the Korean name of the Korea Office of Civil Aviation (KOCA)? It is a division of the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport (Korea) (MOLIT).

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 12:55, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

According to their twitter account (from link in External site section), probably "Korean: 항공정책실". --레비Revi^con 13:23, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

I added name with name of MOLIT in article. --레비Revi^con 13:31, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! It's odd that the agency only has an English site. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:08, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

What is the name of the "Civil Aviation Bureau" (August 31, 1963-August 12, 2002) and the name of the "Civil Aviation Safety Authority" (August 12, 2002-????) in Korean? The archives of the MOCT site http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://moct.go.kr might have the answers to those questions. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:55, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

First one is probably "Korean: 항공국", and second one may be "Korean: 항공정책심의관". --레비Revi^con 12:36, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks :) WhisperToMe (talk) 14:45, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

South Korean copyright for signatures

I am after some information on how South Korean copyright laws apply to signatures for Wikimedia Commons. If you have any information please add to the discussion thread Thanks Cube00 (talk) 17:29, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Ministry of Oceans and Fisheries

Is the Ministry of Oceans and Fisheries active again? The website is still functional WhisperToMe (talk) 14:48, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, since March 2013. --레비Revi^con 00:52, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Ok. Now, where is the headquarters of the ministry? I want to add that info to the article. It seems like the ministry has no English website. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:02, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

I will directly add to article when I find it. --레비Revi^con 01:26, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! If the HQ is in Sejong City it would be nice to find out where it was before that. WhisperToMe (talk) 02:14, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

MOF was newly created after Sejong City migration, so there is no former HQ location. --레비Revi^con 02:33, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you :) WhisperToMe (talk) 10:43, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Proposed article: History of education in South Korea

Hello! I have been trying to write an article on the History of education in South Korea on my sandbox when I realized that most of the history is similar with South Korea and North Korea. Should the article be then titled History of education in Korea? or should the articles be split after 1945. Any advice on the article title and/or the article will be helpful. Thanks! Kkj11210 (talk) 11:03, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

I think ~1945 should be in History of education in Korea, and 1945~ should be splitted into South and North one. --Revi_talk 11:06, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:53, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

I've finished writing the article here: History of education in Korea for the pre-1945 education. Please help me clean up and improve the article. Thanks! -KJ ^riposte 12:50, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Mass update on South Korean address required

Since January 1, 2014, South Korean now uses Street-based address system, called Saejuso(Korean: 새주소). All address based on old system should be updated to new one. --Revi_talk 13:04, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

@Hym411:, is there any categories or collections of the articles using the addresses that we can use to change the addresses? And maybe a template for an old and new addresses? Kkj11210 (talk) 08:59, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

maybe hiddencat for old system address can be created. Template like {{Jibeon}} (korean name of old system) and {{Saejuso}} (New system) can be created to tell both systems. (Currently both systems are used because people are not familiar with new one.) --Revi_talk 09:25, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

I think old system address template {{Jibeon}} should be like (Jibeon address: <old address>) and {{Saejuso}} should be (Saejuso address:<new system address>). Maybe we can create articles about address systems, or redirect to existing article. --Revi_talk 14:24, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Any comment what should we do to update to new address system? —Revi_talk 17:39, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

A clean-up project? A group can go around and change the formats using Internet tools. Thanks! -KJ ^{click here} 23:57, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Dalkttongjip

Hello. I would appreciate assistance with this article including alternative spellings, the Korean spelling, and any additions or clarifications that may be necessary. Additional sources and expansion would also be most welcome. Thanks to anyone who might be interested in helping me cover this dish. Candleabracadabra (talk) 00:35, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Also Bokeo (food)

Feedback on new article / DYK advice

We've got a draft going, Draft:Mass surveillance in North Korea. Look almost ready for mainspace and DYK nomination, but I'd like feedback from the Wikiproject on improving the article or forming a good hook.--HectorMoffet (talk) 16:21, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Certainly good enough to be DYKed right now. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 16:52, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Workgroup for address change

Hello. As you're probably aware due to the previous thread, the Korean address system went through a complete re-wire. The most prominent change is that dong (동), a classification by area, is replaced by street. This was made mandatory starting on January 1, 2014, and although the previous addressed can be still used for letters and whatnot, all official descriptions of places (including those on the Internet) must be changed to the new format. As far as I know, there's no way to automate this process; users will have to search the addresses for the places, translate them to Korean, change the format using Internet tools like this, and translate them back to English.

So far, User:Hym411 and User:Kkj11210 are attempting to work on this project. There has been a discussion about this here. Please reply here or to the previous page on the discussion if you're interested. KJ ^{click here} 11:37, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Invitation to User Study

Would you be interested in participating in a user study? We are a team at University of Washington studying methods for finding collaborators within a Wikipedia community. We are looking for volunteers to evaluate a new visualization tool. All you need to do is to prepare for your laptop/desktop, web camera, and speaker for video communication with Google Hangout. We will provide you with a Amazon gift card in appreciation of your time and participation. For more information about this study, please visit our wiki page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Finding_a_Collaborator). If you would like to participate in our user study, please send me a message at Wkmaster (talk) 23:32, 15 February 2014 (UTC).

Talk:Hanpu/GA1

I am about to pass it, but neither me nor the author can read Korean, so we would welcome a Korean speaker who could comment on whether any major Korean sources can be added, and whether Korean POV is represented. We have covered English-speaking and Chinese sources and POV. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:01, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

TAFI needs global view

Today's article for improvement is Reconnaissance satellite, which is currently tagged with {{globalize}}. According to {{Rest of the World Reconnaissance Satellites}}, Korea has 3 recon satellites, but as yet the page has no material regarding Korea's program. Perhaps the editors on this page would be interested in adding material related to the Korean perspective on the subject? 0x0077BE [^talk/_contrib] 14:48, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Popular pages tool update

As of January, the popular pages tool has moved from the Toolserver to Wikimedia Tool Labs. The code has changed significantly from the Toolserver version, but users should notice few differences. Please take a moment to look over your project's list for any anomalies, such as pages that you expect to see that are missing or pages that seem to have more views than expected. Note that unlike other tools, this tool aggregates all views from redirects, which means it will typically have higher numbers. (For January 2014 specifically, 35 hours of data is missing from the WMF data, which was approximated from other dates. For most articles, this should yield a more accurate number. However, a few articles, like ones featured on the Main Page, may be off).

Web tools, to replace the ones at tools:~alexz/pop, will become available over the next few weeks at toollabs:popularpages. All of the historical data (back to July 2009 for some projects) has been copied over. The tool to view historical data is currently partially available (assessment data and a few projects may not be available at the moment). The tool to add new projects to the bot's list is also available now (editing the configuration of current projects coming soon). Unlike the previous tool, all changes will be effective immediately. OAuth is used to authenticate users, allowing only regular users to make changes to prevent abuse. A visible history of configuration additions and changes is coming soon. Once tools become fully available, their toolserver versions will redirect to Labs.

If you have any questions, want to report any bugs, or there are any features you would like to see that aren't currently available on the Toolserver tools, see the updated FAQ or contact me on my talk page. Mr.Z-bot (talk) (for Mr.Z-man) 05:12, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Looking for a volunteer to assist with a Wikipedia class in Korea

Hey guys. I am teaching a course about Wikipedia at Hanyang University campus in Ansan, ~1h from Seoul. I'd like to work with a Korean-speaking (and English-speaking) Wikipedian, who could help me with tasks such as assessing student's (n=<30) work on Korean Wikipedia, and moderating some Korean-language discussions. Overall, the workload should be pretty low. In exchange, I can reimburse travel / lunch costs, help the said volunteer become a certified Wikipedia Ambassador (first one in Korea besides myself), provide other documents that the assistance took place (all nice fluff pieces for one's CV/resume), and future references. Ping me if anyone is interested in further details, --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:16, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Bids for the 2018 Winter Olympics

I've added some ilinks. Bokwang and Gyeongpo are red, perhaps someone can redirect or stub them? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:09, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Created Gyeongpo as redirect of Gangneung. —Revi_Discussion 12:19, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Great. Is this term related to the Gyeongpodae pavilion or the Gyeongpo lake? By itself it is not mentioned in the target article outside of the name of the lake. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:41, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Gyeongpodae=Pavilion, Gyeongpo lake=Lake near the Pavilion, Gyeongpo=Pavilion+lake (as far as I know, looking for source.) —Revi_Discussion 13:00, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Korean Mythology Page

Korean mythology page is a mess. I cleaned up some of it, but I need more references also a list of gods from various religious traditions, etc. I have some references, but I'm missing a massive amount of information. Here is what I would like:

A list of Gods, preferably by region and religion with references to back it up. (More recent, the better.)

A history of mythology in Korean divided by history periods (Three Kingdoms, Goryeo, etc.) Also if I could get how it relates to the religions of Korea, that would be really good.

Prevailing themes that are more likely to appear in Korean mythology, especially by time period.

Anything about myth types, etc from an academic stand point.

That would really help to clean up the article. I have Myth and Legends from Korea, Korean Shamanism, and the Samguk Yusa, but I need more sources, especially for anything contemporary legends/myths and Joseon sources of myth. Then I can clean this article.--Hitsuji Kinno (talk) 21:05, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

status of the monorail in Daejeon

If someone who can access/read Korean sources could take a look at Taedok Science Town Monorail, I think that article is probably out of date, and the available sources in English for updating it are patchy. See Talk:Taedok Science Town Monorail for a bit more detail. --Delirium (talk) 15:12, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

A blog says "Reservation only", but it is as of March 2012, so out of date too. No Reliable source found with Google. — Revi_complaint? 15:21, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

History of Korean TV Dramas

Hello. I wrote a "History" section for Korean drama. At that time, I also invited corrections or changes at the Korean Popular Culture working group's talk page. Later I edited Secret Garden (TV series) only for the edit to be canceled because my sources were considered unreliable. (Much more about this here.) I now know that most of my sources for the "History" section would also be considered unreliable. Since I don't know Korean, I can't fix this. It has been suggested that there might be someone here who could find reliable sources.

Please note that although ko:대한민국의 텔레비전 드라마 is nearly all history, it is not a substitute as is, because it cites no sources at all; I don't know whether that's a priority in Korean Wikipedia, but if it is, it should probably be fixed too.

Anyway, frankly, anyone intelligent who reads Korean could undoubtedly write such a section better than I. If anyone who knows both languages wants to merge the two sections, I assume the Korean one will dominate.

Thanks for your attention and for any help.

Joe Bernstein joe@sfbooks.com

128.95.223.129 (talk) 02:37, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

What's the difference between Jangdokdae and Jangdok?

We don't have a good explanation, and commons categories - commons:Category:Jangdokdae and commons:Category:Jangdok - seem to me to show the very same objects. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:27, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

"jangdok(장독)" means "a (big) jar" and "dae(대)" means "place", "support"... so "jangdokdae(장독대)" means "place for jangdok(s)".102orion (talk) 06:20, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

I just created an article about Jangdokdae --Adbar (talk) 20:42, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

WP Korea Analysis #1

First, thanks to all those who have continuously contributed to WP Korea. Even if you don't post anything in the talk, your contribution deserve praises. Second, I will try to be more active and boost our progression.

After looking at the chart in scope and goal, our unassessed articles is at 1600+ and stubs at 8000+. Also, I feel our working groups need some changes/organizing while seeking out contributors to overlook it. I noticed somebody added Hip hop (even though it wasn't made) to the working group but I feel we need a music working to manage all genres (since K-pop is inside popular culture working group).

Any feedback is welcome. Jae ₩on (Deposit) 15:33, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

I don't think this WikiProject is enough to have any task forces (working groups). Very few WikiProjects can afford a luxury of specializing like that. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:43, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Sadly, a lot of people rather do their own thing than help Korea as a whole (nothing wrong with that but~). Oh well, I'll do as much as I can. Jae ₩on (Deposit) 15:24, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Need Korea art expert to review Hyon Gyon

This newly-accepted former AFC submission needs to be re-checked for notability and its Persondata and DEFAULTSORT need to be verified and if necessary, changed. Thanks. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 23:16, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

I am not sure (as I am not art expert), but I think at least his artworks should be fair use. @Davidwr: tell me if you have nominated them for deletion on Commons, and I will delete it. — Revi_complaint? 00:35, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

The artwork would only be WP:FAIRUSE if the artwork itself is being discussed and the absence of the artwork image significantly impacts the understanding. As the images are on the Commons and as of yet they have not been nominated for deletion over copyright concerns, WP:FAIRUSE is irrelevant. I will probably nominate them as "no permission" on the Commons. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 00:51, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

More experienced eyes requested

I'm giving some thought to pushing Juldarigi towards GA status, but before I take the plunge, I'd appreciate someone with a bit more experience of this WikiProject's standards giving it the once-over. If you know your Kimchaek from your kimchi, you'd earn my gratitude by offering your thoughts. Cheers, Yunshui 雲‍水 14:28, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

@Yunshui:: It passes my quick test for references (inline refs were required, properly formatted and seemingly reliable). Please deal with the interwiki problem: "The page you wanted to link with is already attached to an item on the central data repository which links to Tug of war on this site. Items can only have one page per site attached. Please choose a different page to link with." A list of Korean language further reading would be nice, and I'd expect to see some external links to Korean websites/online articles. The article has room for at least one more photo, and I see we have some at Commons. After you address this I'd say go ahead and start the GAN. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:59, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Hadn't even considered the interwiki link... Thanks for taking a look; much appreciated. Yunshui 雲‍水 11:31, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Study of Korean-American Hankook schools could be used as a source

A Wikipedian in Los Angeles had scanned a study of Korean-American Hankook schools which could be used as a source. Is anyone interested in acquiring this source? I can e-mail it if you want. WhisperToMe (talk) 14:22, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Nothing to Envy article ratings

Hi, I just joined the group. I recently took the course WIKISOO and worked on the article for the book Nothing to Envy. My guess is that the article is B/High for quality/importance, or C/Mid so I just set it for now. I recognize @User:Piotrus from the class, however I remember being told it's probably best to have someone else take a look that wasn't a member of the class. (However I'd be happy to know your feedback as well, with your vast, expansive experience on Wikipedia and knowledge of related topics!) DavidBoudreau (talk) 04:07, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

@DavidBoudreau: I wasn't really a member of the class; more like an observer. I'd go with C class; for my interpretation of B-class the article should have inline references for all content, which this article does not have. Importance seems mid; a niche topic with some coverage. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:10, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! I changed it to C/Mid. I did think that it had inline references, but I guess that's not the case. I'm not sure I'll get around to it but if anyone suggests some easy fixes that won't take a few hours, I can do that. (fwiw, a week or two ago, when I checked the definition/guidelines of B class quality, the wording was unclear and a little confusing, so that wording was updated.) Thank you for your quick reply. DavidBoudreau (talk) 16:54, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

O Sang-hon

I don't know Korean, but based on guesswork and trying to work transliteration backwards, am I right in thinking the Hangul for his name would be 오상헌? If so, could someone please update the O Sang-hon article to reflect this? He was only a relatively minor official, but he's clearly notable after the worldwide reports of the nature of his death, and there's clearly a much larger story to be told about his involvement in clearly quite major internal political upheaval in which he played a part. -- The Anome (talk) 10:53, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes, true. (But I am busy with lots of other tasks, so I cannot update them... Someone kind can update it.) — Revi_complaint? 13:17, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

OK, I've had a go. But I seem to remember something about North Korean name transliteration conventions being different from South Korean, so I'm almost certainly at least a bit wrong. Any checking by actual Korean speakers wojuld be more than welcome! -- The Anome (talk) 21:57, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Sundae Town

One of my students created this article. Comments on notability and finding/adding sources would be appreciated. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:44, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Titles and article names

see Talk:Yi Gu, Talk:Yi Kang, Talk:Yi Un for discussion on what the proper name of the article should be, and how titles should be attached to the article name. -- 70.24.250.235 (talk) 09:58, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Naming conventions

Should articles concerning Koreans be titled with a dash or without? There are instances of both. I don't think that the differences are adequate to refer to a WP:COMMONNAME, but shouldn't there be a standardized style for the names? KJ^{«Click Here»} 13:33, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, we already have a standard, but it doesn't override WP:COMMONNAME: WP:NC-KO. It says that if there is no established English spelling, then for South Koreans and pre-1945 Korean names we should use Revised Romanization of Korean with a hyphen (not a space) between the two syllables of the given name, and the first letter of the second syllable in lower case. For North Koreans, most articles use McCune Reischauer (with some big exceptions like Jang Sung-taek), but the spacing/hyphenation is much more mixed-up: some articles use spaces (apparently following the KCNA house style), while others use hyphens.

A lot of South Korea athlete articles used to be hyphenated with the first letter of the second syllable of the given name capitalised, but now many of those are being moved to lower case like other South Korean articles. quant18 (talk) 14:28, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

I use the common usage instead of Revised Romanization version for family names. Highly doubt that most contributors know about it. ☴ Jaewon [Talk] 17:32, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Pictures about Korea, Koreans, and its history and geography

Can someone please help me to find Pictures about Korea, Koreans, and its history and geography, which can be chosen to be featured pictures?
Thank you.--Sayom (talk) 13:17, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

P.S. I wrote this here because it is about Korea. Sorry if it was not the right place to ask.--Sayom (talk) 13:18, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Did you look at commons:Category:Korea? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:33, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your help.--Sayom (talk) 11:53, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

"In The News" Korean ferry sinking: nomination FYI and translation request

Hi,

Project members may be interested to know that the recent ferry tragedy in Korea has been nominated for the "In The News" section of Wikipedia English's home page.

Discussion of its nomination is here: Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#Korean_ferry_sinking

The article itself is here: 2014 South Korean ferry capsizing

And the Korean article (from which Korean->English translation of additional info would be very much appreciated) is here: [2]

Thanks!

Balaenoptera musculus (talk) 14:24, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/TimeZ

Hello, Korea experts! Perhaps someone who can read the references can tell if this is a notable band, and if the article should b e kept and improved instead of being deleted as a stale draft. —Anne Delong (talk) 20:50, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/No Reply (Korean Indie Band)

Dear Korea experts: Here's an old Afc submission that will soon be deleted as a stale draft. Is this a notable band, and should the page be kept and improved instead? The references are not in English, but the translated titles seem like fairly good sources. —Anne Delong (talk) 18:28, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Wow, hasn't been touched since 2012. Found the Korean version (노리플라이) for it. I haven't heard of them but maybe somebody else has. ☴ Jaewon [Talk] 02:41, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, seems kowiki article needs update too. — Revi_complaint? 09:10, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Jay2kx and Hym411, are there any sources in the Korean version that could be added to the English one? Or are the ones already there good enough to get the draft into mainspace? —Anne Delong (talk) 14:35, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for late replay, I'll look into it. ☴ Jaewon [Talk] 15:31, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Anne Delong, so far I have found one English article (No Reply brings back sounds of ’90s K-pop Korean Herald) for them. Somebody needs to check the Korean references though since I can't read Korean. ☴ Jaewon [Talk] 01:57, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Every bit helps. —Anne Delong (talk) 04:16, 19 April 2014 (UTC)