Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration/Archive 7

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Wikipedia:Peer review for Pope John Paul II

The Pope John Paul II article is at peer review for anyone interested here --Marek.69 ^talk 23:08, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

RfC on abolishing COI and COIN

This ArbCom Ban Appeal regarding WP:COI and a religious group recommended a community RfC on Conflict of interest. This RfC was created and there are a lot of people calling for abolition of WP:COI and WP:COIN. I have separate proposal calling only for abolishing WP:COIN because I do think it is used too often for harassment. In any case, this obviously is an RfC of interest to this all members of this group. So feel free to jump in. CarolMooreDC 15:46, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Free Highbeam Accounts

The internet research database HighBeam Research has 1000 free accounts available. HighBeam has full versions of tens of millions of newspaper articles and journals and should be a big help in adding reliable sources--especially older and paywalled ones--into the encyclopedia. Sign-ups require a 1-year old account with 1000 edits on any Wikipedia. Here's the link to the project page: http://enwp.org/WP:HighBeam (account sign-ups are linked in the box on the right). Feel free to sign up to help improve your work on this project's articles. CarolMooreDC 14:57, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Have I bean editing correctly?

I've been making some mostly pretty technical edits to Israel/Palestine related pages lately. Just want to make sure I'm doing this correctly. Any advise? Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 22:53, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

If you aren't someone will revert you.

There are lots of resources for learning about editing, Starting with HELP on left page. See another list at WP:Workshop. CarolMooreDC 23:26, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

I meant that I'm new to Israel/Palestine stuff, not editing in general. Israel/Palestine stuff is rather controversial, so considering that I'm new at this, I thought it was beat to ask on this page to make sure I was editing Israel/Palestine stuff correctly. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 23:33, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Should we close this project?

I just had to complain about some clear WP:meat puppet tomfoolery and I'm wondering if there really is any possibility of making this project work? I hate to see hundreds of dead Wikiprojects lying about and confusing people. Is there something else constructive we can do; or can we motivate ourselves to do some of constructive things mentioned on the main page?CarolMooreDC 20:53, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Guess not. People still are listing articles. I'm about to do one myself after finish archiving! Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 19:36, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikiproject proposal

I would like to invite you to be involved in this creation or failure of this Project Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Neutral Editors. In creating IPCOLL I think you have picked up skills that may be put to use in solving issues that happen in other of Wikipedia that similar to the conflict that happened over this issue. The hope is to create a nonpartisan group that go into these types of situations and improve articles and with the warring factions that may exist their. Neutral Editors. This exist in the proposal stage and I hope you will consider taking part in at least the discussion.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 23:48, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

cfd

See my three CfDs related to Israel/Palestine historical cats at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 February 9. trespassers william (talk) 21:58, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Followups

trespassers william (talk) 20:46, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Neutral notification of RfC on List of Palestinians allegedly assassinated by the Mossad

Is here: Talk:List_of_Palestinians_allegedly_assassinated_by_the_Mossad#RfC_on_article_title.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 01:25, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

French sister project

When this project was founded six years ago, I wrote:

As a founding member of WP:SLR I am very happy about the birth of our first "daughter" project, and I wish it as much success as a parent could wish.

It is thus with redoubled joy that I learned recently of the foundation (on April 8) of this project's first international sister project, Salon de coopération Israël-Palestine.

IPCOLL's first talk page reminds me that the first collaboration of this project was the § Article improvement drive. Despite my objections then, I remember it turned out a good success. Would anyone who was involved then be able to refresh my memory? I am thinking of suggesting a similar drive to the "Salon", and your experience could be very worthwile. (The founder, Racconish (talk · contribs), has no problem with English, and I'm sure he'd be happy to translate your message.)

As they say in the Salon: WPIP (WikiPédiez In Pace). — Sebastian 21:52, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Glad to hear it. Since much of my time was spent dealing with poorly sourced and/or WP:Undue negative material in BLPs, I sure would like to see some people take one cleaning some of those up. I'm a bit burnt out on BLPs in general currently and trying to stay away... Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 04:54, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

AfD: Whole Palestine

Please comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Whole Palestine. Oncenawhile (talk) 07:31, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Wikimania leaflets

All, please see here for a proposed leaflet advertising the project at wikimania 2014. Oncenawhile (talk) 20:53, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

IP area still being swamped by socks

I've begun a thread on discussing possible changes to ARBPIA on the matter of socks, if those interested in the matter could join the discussion that would be great. Sepsis II (talk) 03:08, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Very dead link - mideastweb.org

While generally out of this arena for a good while, I noticed something recently that will likely impact existing and previously ref'd content on I/P and Mideast articles. It's something new to me and thought it best to post it here for comment and posterity. The rather widely accessed website, mideastweb.org, is now defunct and no longer accessible; even past historic snapshots through archive.org are also no longer available. A quick search reveals over three hundred instances of usage in articles as 'mideastweb.org', but that likely does not include all other usage for reference purposes, which are included within formatted mark-up.

Just yesterday I edited a REALLY BAD and quite similar change-of-domain situation, with only a few links to another former site, 'amislam.com'. My rapid response was motivated by the absolute crap displayed and thus lurking there as a ref in Wikipedia. Luckily in that case, archive.org was available for its intended purpose of recovery/verification. No such luck appears available for the former mideastweb.org.

Is there another way to get archive copies? Is there anything that can be done to save these former references and avoid having any reader who links to them to be accosted with an invitation to Facebook? Regards, CasualObserver'48 (talk) 07:34, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

RfC: Should "Israeli–Palestinian conflict" and "Arab-Israeli conflict" be merged?

Please comment at Talk:Israeli–Palestinian_conflict#RfC: Should "Israeli–Palestinian conflict" and "Arab-Israeli conflict" be merged?. Oncenawhile (talk) 16:48, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Public watchlist of articles in WP:ARBPIA

Hi all. Here is a public watchlist dealing with WP:ARBPIA. It has 1028 pages on it. I am not sure if anyone else has made such a watchlist, but feel free to use it to look for vandalism, POV pushing and so on. Kingsindian (talk) 21:25, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this would be the same list as Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Arab-Israeli_Arbitration_Enforcement, pages with the ARBPIA template on it? And of course there is Category:Israeli–Palestinian conflict which probably has articles without the template. Carolmooredc (Talkie-Talkie) 23:11, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

The former only has talk pages, I am not sure how to use that to look at the article pages using that. About the second one, I am again not sure how to look at the sub-categories of the categories. Just using "related changes" on the category seems to yield only a few results. Kingsindian (talk) 00:58, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Very nice can be similar done for WP:Israel and WP:Palestine?--Shrike (talk) 06:02, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

The instructions are here. Kingsindian (talk) 10:33, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

RfC: How should the events in Khan Yunis on July 6-7 be described?

Hi, I posted an RfC on the 2014 Israel–Gaza conflict talk page. I would appreciate it you could spend a few minutes to familiarize yourself with the issue and respond. WarKosign (talk) 08:37, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

List of national capitals in alphabetical order

I noticed that this list page shows Jerusalem, rather than Tel Aviv, as the capital of Israel. I'm unsure what the current consensus is about how to cover this material, so I have posted this here, in case editors who are more familiar with current consensus would want to take a look at that list page and make any corrections if necessary. Thank you. --Tryptofish (talk) 14:41, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

The article on Israel says "Capital: Jerusalem (disputed)", so apparently this is the consensus. The list has a fairly detailed note on the nature of the dispute. “WarKosign ” 08:34, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Requested move of 2014 kidnapping and murder of Israeli teenagers to Operation Brother's Keeper

I posted a movie request. If you have an opinion please head to the talk page and state it. “WarKosign ” 21:28, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

I also began a discussion on the potential new names of 2014 Israel–Gaza conflict. Participation is very welcome. “WarKosign ” 08:25, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Use Muslim when appropriate. Use Arab when appropriate.

Just saying that can we refer to it as being an Israeli/Palestinian (national) conflict or a Muslim/Jewish (religious) conflict? To bring Arab (race) into it is not correct as Arabs can be Christians, Jews or any other religion for that matter. It's a national and/or religious conflict not a racial conflict.

Michael Demiurgos (talk) 05:20, 28 December 2014 (UTC)