Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/March 2023

Hi hi, quite new to copy editing so I did the following two short pages: Euastacus yanga and American Kickboxer. The first is a bit more of an expert topic and the second is a film with quite a lengthy plot description. I cut it down a bit and removed some over explanations but would love any feedback! Also to please tell me if I tagged properly for a completed GOCE edit. <3 Chanelle821 (talk) 14:31, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good work on both; the guideline for film-plot length is 700 words, maximum. I put a space between your word counts and *O, because we use a script to generate the barnstar table and it may (or may not) make a difference

. Thanks for your help and all the best, Miniapolis 19:52, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My first GOCE copyedit

Hello there. I would be very appreciative if someone checked my copyedit of the fudge article. I've done a bit of copyediting before but nothing as major as this, so would appreciate any tips, pointers or suggestions as to what I could do better or what I've done well. Thanks. Schminnte (talk • contribs) 19:29, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good work on a fun article

. Basic copyediting and Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/How to are useful, and you'll pick up the Manual of Style on a need-to-know basis. Thanks and all the best, Miniapolis 20:02, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

First time copyediting

Could someone please check over my review Marian Chodacki. I tried working on an article in topics outside of my usual editing, and this is the first time I've ever copyedited. Just wanted some feedback on if I followed basic copyediting + the how to well enough. Nmarshall25 (talk) 16:46, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You did well. You converted a fair amount of clumsily circumlocutious language to better English (machine-translated from Polish, apparently, and such machine translations are often our most difficult tasks). Your byte counts show that you removed a lot of material, but I didn't detect anything of great importance gone. However, you might take note that names of ships (the battleship with the snotty German officers) should be in italics. Dhtwiki (talk) 06:56, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How’d I do?

Today I finished my first copyedit of the drive (Ethel Merman). I think it turned out pretty well, but would like some feedback on it so that I may improve my reviewing abilities for future articles. Thanks! ◇HelenDegenerate◆ 03:16, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @HelenDegenerate:, I've reviewed your changes to the article here. You've done well with reducing unnecessary verbiage, removing editorialism and tightening the prose. Two things I picked up: there's no need to replace emdashes and endashes with templates (I usually substitute those), and be aware of English variants—outside proper nouns, the article has inconsistent use of both "theatre" (Commonwealth English) and "theater" (American English)—Merman was American so we should use American spellings. Besides those points, you've done a good job and improved the article; thank you for your work. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 04:50, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Leaderboard question

Hi hi, how do the leaderboard stats work? Do I need to enter something additionally aside from the tracking of Completed/Working articles? Chanelle821 (talk) 10:00, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Chanelle821: Yes, you have to manually input your stats at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/March 2023#Leaderboard. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:26, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Juvenile myoclonic epilepsy

Hello, I've edited Juvenile myoclonic epilepsy. I think it's improved but I'm a bit worried that there is a lot of material about the links between various genes and the condition that don't seem to be backed up by the pages about the genes themselves. I think somewhere I saw something about a tag for expert review but I can't find that now. Could someone point me toward that and let me know what it would entail please?
Thanks, Mgp28 (talk) 19:11, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See {{Expert needed}}. Thanks and all the best, Miniapolis 02:12, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's great, thank you --Mgp28 (talk) 07:36, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My GOCE copyedit

Hi, I'm not sure whether my GOCE copyedit to 2022 Kazakh presidential election is OK or not. Do I forget to edit something? Could I get some suggestions and tips? Thanks! The person who loves reading (talk) 01:02, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I took a quick look (as you know, it's a long article), and it looks good to me; thanks for tagging the WP:ENGVAR. WP:CE and Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/How to are useful guides. Thanks for your help and all the best, Miniapolis 13:54, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

First GOCE copyedit

Hullo. This is not my first copyedit, but it is my first time participating in a backlog elimination drive as well as copyediting anything particularly substantial. I recently finished copyediting Broadcom Corporation and there were many things I were certain about, but many more things I was uncertain about, while going about the task. If possible, could someone check over my edits? Any sort of feedback on anything I did wrong or right is greatly appreciated. This is my first time embarking on something like this, and I'm very enthusiastic about helping to improve the encyclopedia. - Cheers, KoolKidz112 (hit me up) 22:49, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, and thanks! Have fun and all the best, Miniapolis 01:09, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Does this count?

Hi, I found Sachin Tendulkar lurking in the March 2022 list. It was there as it had a {{copy edit inline}} tag. I've copy edited the section the tag was referring to and removed the tag, but I've also done more edits. I am continuing to work on the article, especially the "Personal life" section.

Since the tag only referred to a small section of a large article, I was just wondering whether/how the work I do on this article can count for the drive, and if so, whether I should count it as an old article. Either way, I'll be working on it. :] Thanks! Wracking ^💬 05:48, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help, and I'd count any work you did as work on an old article. All the best, Miniapolis 13:40, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copyediting a section

If a specific section needs copyediting, do I log the wordcount of the entire page, and once I'm done CE'ing the section alone, add the word count to my total? Or do I just count the totals of what I worked on? If that were the case, how would I obtain the word count of the section alone? - Cheers, KoolKidz112 (hit me up) 16:23, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @KoolKidz112:, just use the word count of the section you copy-edited. In your log, add "(section)" between the article's title and the word count. To obtain the section's word count, you can copy-and-paste its contents into a word processor program like MS Word or LibreOffice, remove anything you didn't copy-edit like image captions, block quotations, tables, lists etc., and use the program's word-count facility. Thanks for your work. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 21:52, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Indiscriminate and (largely) unverified lists on Janusz Józefowicz

Hello there. I have looking at this article, which I have copyedited every section other than "works". As the list is largely unverified and very indiscriminate, should I just delete the works section? Advice would be appreciated. Thanks. Schminnte (talk • contribs) 17:41, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have decided to remove the section and add any references into the "career" section. Schminnte (talk • contribs) 18:54, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The lists seem to be in accordance, at least in terms of size, with the Polish version of the article and with the subject's IMDb entry (a link to which would be appropriate to add in a new external links section). I would have said to leave the lists in, but I tend to be an inclusionist about such things (I'm more bothered by the all caps text than anything else). However, Wikipedia is supposed to be sourced. So, removing unsourced material is appropriate. Dhtwiki (talk) 19:27, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will add the IMDb link. I will admit, the formatting was mainly the reason the article took so long to copyedit! Schminnte (talk • contribs) 19:37, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Applying ChatGPT to editing

I often see google books links in cites. I prefer to use the {{Google books}} template instead. Using this prompt:

"Please transform texts in this form: https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_History_of_Myanmar_since_Ancient_Times/V3kfNYXwaGsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=A+History+of+Myanmar+since+ancient+times.+Traditions+and+Transformations&printsec=frontcover into texts in this form WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/March 2023 at Google Books Here's the source text:"

I was able to get it to do so correctly, despite the somewhat varying syntax that appears in such urls. Enjoy! Lfstevens (talk) 00:30, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here's Jimmy: https://newatlas.com/technology/wikipedia-ai-gpt

@Lfstevens:, you might get more traction at the Guild's main talk page; I think most editors will have removed this page from their watchlists by now. It sounds like a useful idea, anyway. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 19:31, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!