Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket/Asia cricket task force/Archive 4

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Updates?

Any update? ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 08:20, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not that I know of, sorry. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 15:25, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Special times

The Clt20! Yes, it's coming. Be prepared to face a new challenge from WP:IPL that will make you say "Awesome!". Thanks for the love and support. @Dipankan Upgraded! ^{Tag me!} 14:13, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

List of Indian Premier League five-wicket hauls

Have a look at this. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 12:50, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WTF!!

And Deccan Chargers is again a part of the IPL. Understanding BCCI's system is Mission Impossible. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 11:01, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dealing with the non-IPL seasons [Important]

Hello guys. Long days, no see. I, too was personally busy and the coordinators..hmm. Well, not to blame them. WP:IPL runs when the IPL season is on. However, that doesn't mean our special members will be sitting idle. We'll organize a meeting in IRC soon. The topic will be how to make the project active. We'll get a record of each suggestion. The lead coordinator, Vibhijain, will personally give you the details. I hope I am clear. From the founder, @Dipankan Upgraded! ^{Tag me!} 08:39, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with that. We need to deal with this as fast as we can. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 08:42, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Inactive

Yash! is inactive...so is Dipankan. I have removed Yash's name as the co-ordinator as he retired. The position is currently empty. Thanks TheStrike Σagle 07:16, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bot for List of Indian Premier League records and statistics

I have made a bot which will update List of Indian Premier League records and statistics, which currently has a lot of outdated information. It is currently requesting approval. You can leave your comments or participate in the discussion at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/IPLRecordsUpdateBot. Thanks. jfd34 (talk) 17:16, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

New page

I have created the draft of an article that could be created at: Wikipedia talk: Articles for creation/Chennai Super Kings-Royal Challengers Bangalore rivalry. Please consider moving it into the two teams' pages. --Tary123 (talk) 08:03, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Generally, I think that the specific IPL articles (e.g. 2013 Indian Premier League) are sufficient for doing this, as they show the matches between the teams and the "rivalry" in a form other than a new article. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 18:21, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

- Right. Hindustanilanguage (talk) 18:33, 8 June 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Tendulkar's 200th test match

Hello! Sachin Tendulkar's 200th and last test match scheduled on Nov 14-18 brings his retirement from all types of cricket forms. I am extremely bad with cricket and hence would request you all to take to editing the article, general cleanups and then add more about this match. Scheduled at home-ground Wankhede, the event is going to be a huge one and with that we can nominate it for WP:In the news to feature on main page. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 12:20, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I-N-T-E-R-E-S-T-E-D!! Have enough resources to flesh that article. I will work soon on one. User:Sohambanerjee1998/West Indies vs India 2013 Series. But my exams will be on at the same time. So I will provide you guys the resources and **Images** to develope. Sohambanerjee1998 12:34, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We already have an article on this series and have started a section at West_Indian_cricket_team_in_India_in_2013–14#Tendulkar.27s_last_Test_Match. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 04:20, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination posted at Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#Tendulkar_retires; with one successful "oppose" already.

§§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 06:15, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sachin Tendulkar (4th) GA nom

Please note that Sachin Tendulkar had been nominated for GA (fourth time) and is currently under review. Due to the unavailability of the nominator, requesting anybody interested in getting it passed as a good article to respond in the review here. Otherwise, the reviewer will have to fail it within a week. Sincerely, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:01, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject X is live!

Hello everyone!

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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

IPL Season Finals

Don't you guys think that the finals of each season from now onwards should have a separate article for it? I mean we should mention about the finals in brief in the articles of respective seasons, but shouldn't we make separate articles for the finals for each season? Just like there are separate finals articles for Indian Super League, Hyundai A-League, Major League Soccer etc etc. As I think the respective articles for each IPL season is long enough already. Itz arka (talk) 06:50, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Indian Premier League seasons and results/archive1

Would be lovely to have comments from experienced editors at the Featured List nomination page. Thanks. Lourdes 11:28, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

<IPL Team> in 2017 articles

All the team articles have the match result template Template:2017 Indian Premier League Group stage in them, which I don't think is appropriate. All other <Sports Team X> in <Season CCYY> articles I've seen only have the list of matches that the team in question actually took part in, and I think the same should happen here. Spike 'em (talk) 10:17, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

IPL 2018 Retention

I observed that for many IPL teams list of players retained for IPL are added in their 2017 season wiki page. This same mistake is present for all IPL team pages except for SRH, CSK & RR. Sagavaj (talk) 01:15, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

FLRC notification

I have nominated List of Delhi Daredevils cricketers for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:41, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

IPL Squad update

Hello @Giants2008:, I don't know anyone here but I saw your name and ping you, Please help to update the IPL 11 team squad template.--Raju Suthar (talk) 17:08, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator and Vice-Coordinator

We need a Coordinator and Vice-Coordinator for this Wiki Project IPL. Anyone interested please put your name up here. Will wait for the reply from interested co-editors. Cricket246 (talk) 09:11, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I update every single Match of IPL Stating from Match 1, I also updated every single Toss in IPL, so can I become Coordinator??(Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 12:44, 23 April 2018 (UTC))[reply]

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

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The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.

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Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background

On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

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Thank you. — The Transhumanist 07:42, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of Rajasthan Royals cricketers

Please participate in this discussion. Thanks. Sa Ga Vaj 04:11, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of Kings XI Punjab cricketers

An update tag has been placed on the above mentioned FL and hope this will be updated atleast by the end of the IPL. Thanks. Sa Ga Vaj 22:09, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A new newsletter directory is out!

A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.

– Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request for member and vice-coordinator

Hello to Admin ! I recently improved some pages of Indian Premier League teams and i want to gain some positions in Wikiproject so How can i gain this position? I wish you have positive response.

        Thakyou

(Fade258 (talk) 11:16, 28 October 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Change Kings Xl Punjab's name in Wikipedia

I have heard that Kings Xl Punjab have changed their name to Punjab Kings, I have edited but Chubot had edited. Please change the name as soon as possible. Srivathsansriram96 (talk) 06:28, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Project merge proposal

Hello WP:Indian Premier League members. During a discussion about creating task forces at the Cricket Project, it has been suggested to merge the various Twenty20 projects into the Cricket Project as task forces, inline with other projects which generally don't have separate WikiProjects for single events. The main benefits of this proposal will be standardising current IPL articles with other cricket articles and increased assistance from the Cricket Project, which has more active members and for which in the long-term a resource library is being constructed. Please leave your comments/views on this proposal below. StickyWicket (talk) 10:23, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cannabis and sports

New stub: Cannabis and sports. Any project members care to help expand? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:58, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relevant discussion

I have started a discussion about the use of templates for individual matches, which may affect article that you're interested in. Feel free to contribute: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket#Templates for individual matches. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:50, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Templates for match scorecards

FYI, there is a discussion about displaying match scorecards without using templates at the main cricket WikiProject: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket#2021 Indian Premier League match templates. Feel free to contribute there. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:01, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Fade258 (talk) 11:12, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion about this project at WT:CRIC

There is a discussion at WikiProject Cricket about this WikiProject. Clog Wolf _Howl 04:33, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion mentioned standardisation. I've started to standardise some of the tabular information - in particular stopping tables forcing the full width of the browser window which is an accessibility nightmare. I'm also removing colours where they show meaning without text, colours that cause accessibility problems, replacing flags with flags and text and simply replacing flags where there's an obvious MOS:FLAGS problem and removing salaries from the squad tables - this is of minor interest in the context of the squad and has little meaning and zero context. This information may have use in the year by year articles, but not in the main articles. Blue Square Thing (talk) 12:44, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary information in IPL articles

Hi. Articles are getting added a lot of unnecessary information and lots of empty tables. I am trying to revert back for pages related to Sunrisers Hyderabad but this is not being done in many other team article season pages. Administrator staff doesn't need to have every name on the support staff including Photographer, Video manager, Content writer, etc., And also in the name of the source, people are just adding team websites which doesn't even have this information. Adding team website doesn't mean that it is a proper source. It should contain the information for which you are citing as reference. And also empty tables are being added for kit sponsors. These can be added once the proper sponsors are announced. Or if they are already announced, add them with proper sources. Hope these would be taken care for the other articles. SaGa (talk) 17:52, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I'm going further and removing more non-notable and non-staff members - a brand ambassador, for example, is not a staff member. Blue Square Thing (talk) 12:45, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Blue Square Thing: and @Sagavaj:, I agreed you both. Yes, you are free to remove such unnecessary information from that respective articles where as I also checking all the IPL related articles which was created fromm since 2008 for correction. Thank you ! Fade258 (talk) 13:56, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Flags

One of the things I've been doing when I've worked through the teams articles is to replace the flagon templates being used with the relevant cricket template, eg {{cr|AUS}}. These display the flag and the name and link to the cricket team. It is NOT OK to link to, for example, India itself as the flagicon does - this is a clear and obvious WP:OLINK issue. The flagicon template also uses just the flag - which from an accessibility point of view is utterly unacceptable.

It would seem that all of the seasons articles also use the flagicon template for flags. Quite why they do this I have no idea, and whoever initially had the idea of doing this needs to be sent to sit on the naughty step - it's a spectacularly bad idea. So, all of the seasons articles need editing to get rid of this. Anyone fancy giving me a hand? Thanks.

At the same time, flags are only appropriate for players. They simply aren't appropriate at all for support staff or coaches and need to be removed from any tables with them in. Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:32, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree your opinion BST, I will look into it. Thank you ! Fade258 (talk) 02:26, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Auction details table in IPL team season pages

Hi. I want to know the opinion on keeping/removing auction details table in IPL season pages. I see that it's being removed recently in Sunrisers Hyderabad in 2022 season page. I would like to compare that with the transfer details page in any football related season page and if it is relevant in those pages, how this would be irrelevant in the IPL season pages? The table gives additional information like how many matches he played before coming to this new team and for which team he played before along with the auction details like base-price and final auctioned-price which also gives an idea on how the owners are strategizing their auctions. It is being followed in all Sunrisers' season pages edited by me including Sunrisers Hyderabad in 2018 which is a good-article and didn't get any negative feedback on this table until now. I think it should be better to add those but if it is considered as unnecessary, I would be happy not to add again. Hope some consensus can be reached here. Thanks. SaGa (talk) 20:37, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What does it add? It confused the hell out of me, which is why I removed it. Cricket, even IPL cricket, is a very different sport with regard to player movements than football. I mean, really, really different. The key detail is already on the page - the table was just padding. Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:44, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The table gives additional information like how many matches he played before coming to this new team and for which team he played before along with the auction details like base-price and final auctioned-price which also gives an idea on how the owners are strategizing their auctions.SaGa (talk) 20:49, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it does. This is stats cruft and not useful information. It would be better dealt with as referenced prose. Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:50, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree with that if someone is actually writing prose to any of these season articles but none of them have any prose. SaGa (talk) 20:51, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's the problem. Write some. If you ping me I'll check for any written English errors if you think that's likely to be problem, although your written English here looks at least as good as mine :-) Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:53, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I used to write it before but I am not a full-time editor (which I am guessing might be true for many people). And hence also the reason why I edit only articles of the teams I follow to an extent which my time permits. And also, I agree that cricket is a different sport but IPL has all it's ideology taken from American sports including NFL and considering the change in the sport with franchise cricket dominating more compared to any international tours, I would say that these rules should also be changed. This is my two cents on this topic. SaGa (talk) 20:59, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly I'd argue very strongly indeed that in global terms franchise cricket does not dominate in comparison with international cricket, but there you go. Players go on international duty first in almost every case. What may be true in the Indian television market really isn't true of most of the world imo.

Now, if you want to look at American sports then an article such as 2021 Detroit Tigers season shows a way to do roster moves - and MLB clubs have much bigger rosters than an IPL side. You'll notice that every single transaction in the bullet lists has at least one reference associated with it. The same, or similar, is true of 2021 Los Angeles Rams season - a table is used there in the sort of way that could be adopted, but there is also basic prose associated with it. Either of those approaches work for me.

In terms of the table I removed, I have no idea what the Capped/Uncapped column even means by the way. And, fwiw, no one outside of India really has any idea what a lakh is - and I can't quite understand why the salary on the player list is in crore (the same applies to this btw - no one has a clue) but on the transaction list was in lakh. It seems very odd. Blue Square Thing (talk) 15:44, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]