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Competition, tournament, etc
[edit]Re use of these and other terms — discipline, event, meet(ing), championship(s) ... — there is enormous variety in English-language sports and games talk, and great variety even in duplicate bridge talk. Duplicate bridge organizers and players in my experience rarely or never use "competition" and "meet" in the following senses which are common here.
- She won the Friday evening Open Pairs competition and the Open Swiss Teams competition at/in/of the Halifax meet last weekend —where "at/in/of" means focus on the nouns ;-)
Following previous editors re "competition", on my own initiative re "meet", I have tried to use these two terms frequently as in this example, instead of "tournament" in a particular and "tournament" in a collective sense, both of which I consider common in duplicate bridge talk. Does small size save space? (Outside of duplicate bridge talk, I don't use "meet" but I like it because no one uses it with the particular meaning.) (Outside, I use "tournament" in the particular sense and I am inclined to prefer it here, but the collective sense seems inevitably firmly established among organizers and players.) (Outside, I try to use "event" in more particular rather than less particular senses. So I am inclined to prefer "event" as well as "tournament" for what we call a competition, but I know that Wikipedia has a project for multi-sport events, and know that the hospitality industry is influential [cities compete to host events].) (I am inclined against our "competition" as a countable noun, partly because competition is important in more than one other sense, both at the bridge table [competitive bidding; jump shifts in competition] and away from elsewhere [competitive attitude; cities compete to host events].) Sigh
Is it appropriate for WPCB to standardize on such matters of usage?
What do others think of "competition" and "meet" in the sense displayed? --P64 (talk) 21:02, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Folks, this article is in urgent need of some TLC from the Project, thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 18:28, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- I confess that I'd never heard of Midmac. Are we sure that the system is played by enough people to be notable? JH (talk page) 19:11, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know - I came across the article via a request at WP:FEED and although I am a bridge player, I have never heard of it either. – ukexpat (talk) 14:37, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
- If the system is only played by one or two pairs then, unless they are great players, I would say it is non-notable. But putting "Midmac bidding bridge" into Google does throw up a lot of hits, which suggests it may be fairly widely used in certain countries. JH (talk page) 19:00, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
- MIDMAC is not listed in the 6th Edition of the Official Encyclopedia of Bridge. --Newwhist (talk) 03:11, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
- I have an extensive knowledge of the MIDMAC system for I have played it several years together with an author of a book written about MIDMAC. The system is an invention of an britisch bridgeplayer and further developed by an New-Zealander by the name John Drabble. It features a specific meaning to openingbids and the fact that almost no conventions are used. The name MIDMAC stands for Minor diamonds / Major clubs or put it differently; open 1 club with a 4 card hearts, or a 4 card spades or a 4 card in both majors (major clubs), open 1 diamond without a 4 card major or without a 6 card clubs/diamonds (minor diamonds). I hope to put an article on Wikipedia very soon. For more information one can sent me an e-mail at mid_mac@ymail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by EdeBaan (talk • contribs) 08:06, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- MIDMAC is not listed in the 6th Edition of the Official Encyclopedia of Bridge. --Newwhist (talk) 03:11, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
- If the system is only played by one or two pairs then, unless they are great players, I would say it is non-notable. But putting "Midmac bidding bridge" into Google does throw up a lot of hits, which suggests it may be fairly widely used in certain countries. JH (talk page) 19:00, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know - I came across the article via a request at WP:FEED and although I am a bridge player, I have never heard of it either. – ukexpat (talk) 14:37, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
World Mind Sports Games
[edit]Another editor, having achieved consensus of two in discussion with me, as created 2008 World Mind Sports Games by split from World Mind Sports Games, which is now general, and main article for the (temporarily messy) category Category:World Mind Sports Games. 2012 World Mind Sports Games and 2016 World Mind Sports Games may now be WP:RED but will be created sooner, as will their eponymous categories later.
"1st W.M.S.G." now redirects to "2008 ...". Articles on the four constituent sports remain titled Bridge at the 1st World Mind Sports Games, and so on, but they will be moved (sooner). --P64 (talk) 22:27, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
Vanderbilt number?
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Moved to Talk:Vanderbilt numberVanderbilt number on AfD.
[edit]The prod on Vanderbilt number was removed so I put it on AfD. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 11:54, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Keshav Samant
[edit]I added a reference to Keshav Samant, an article on an Indian bridge player. If you can improve the article, please do so.