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New Pinguicula species

[1], but I don't have access to the article and don't know which section, if any, it was published under. Any ideas? --Rkitko ^(talk) 20:51, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright free photos

Hi, all! I was browsing the ICPS forum today and found an interesting note at the bottom of one person's post that may be helpful to the project. See this. At the bottom, the user notes, "All my pictures are without copyright." And he posts quite a few photos that may be useful. Lots of species we don't have. Cheers, Rkitko ^(talk) 02:08, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Portal

Looks like user:ZooFari created Portal:Carnivorous plants. It doesn't look too bad, but could do with some work. Mgiganteus1 (talk) 10:59, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Utricularia

With the completion of the Utricularia subramanyamii stub, the Utricularia genus is completely filled in. On to another genus! And then maybe filling in stubby Utric articles. --Rkitko ^(talk) 03:13, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Woohoo.. great work! :) I've noticed that Utricularia vulgaris (the best known species, right?) is one of these stubby articles and was created before your exhaustive article creation run. Any chance you could flesh it out a bit? :) mgiganteus1 (talk) 12:17, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, yes. It's in need of some work. I think I have some references floating around here somewhere on it. I was also going to try and work a bit more on Sarracenia. Another editor wants to put it up for FAC, but I think it's far from it. I'll see what I can do. --Rkitko ^(talk) 13:08, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Utricularia inflexa

I am told by someone on Flickr that Utricularia_inflexa has the wrong picture: "U. inflexa is yellow (we have a poorish picture)" (I can't seem to find their picture online). Richard001 (talk) 01:10, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From everything I've seen and read, it looks right to me. In Taylor's monograph, he states: "Corolla white or pale mauve or more rarely yellow, with purple nerves..." so it seems there's some variability within the taxon. --Rkitko ^(talk) 02:03, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Genera categories

If anyone didn't notice the discussion at WT:PLANTS, take a look: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Plants#Working systematically with common names. I've already begun to implement this with the Utricularia and Drosera and had an idea to begin it with the Stylidium. So far we have categories such as:

And so on. Seems like a good idea to me. Mgiganteus1, any thoughts on implementing that structure in Category:Nepenthes? Cheers, Rkitko ^(talk) 03:28, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles with unsourced statements

I just ran a WP:CATSCAN of the intersection between Category:Carnivorous plants and Category:All articles with unsourced statements and got a return of 18 articles: [2]. And I just took care of Drosera capensis. I suppose we're lucky as a project to have so few. Feel free to clear up the other {{fact}} tags out there on our articles. Cheers, Rkitko ^(talk) 14:36, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Drosera taxonomy

Hey folks. Before I go any further in creating more Drosera stubs, I wanted your opinion. Should we continue on with the three subgenera taxonomy at List of Drosera species or should we shift toward the elevated sections to subgenera taxonomy a la Barry Rice's website? I'm currently working on subg. Ergaleium, which isn't effected by these shifts. Any opinions? --Rkitko ^(talk) 23:12, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Source of high quality CP images

Hey guys. I just came across scott.zona's photostream. It's a great source of high quality habitat photos of various CPs and includes many other exotic plants as well. All images appear to be licensed under CC-BY. mgiganteus1 (talk) 08:43, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Input from Venus Flytrap experts needed...

File:Insectivorous Plants Drew's copy.jpg

The passage from Drew's book

Hi there. Could someone who's in the know about Venus Flytraps, so to speak come and take a look at this question at the Science Reference Desk? We have a user (Drew R. Smith) with a copy of Darwin's "Insectivorous Plants" which states that VFTs are native to the rainforests of South America - he's scanned the passage in question for us. Now, another user's copy of the same book states that the VFT is "found only in the eastern part of North Carolina", which would seem to agree with WPs Venus Flytrap article and most of the web, from what I can gather.

I'm bringing this here, just in case Drew and his book are correct and WP is helping to propagate a 'common misconception', based on an error in an early edition of Darwin's text. I/We'd appreciate your thoughts on this issue. Cheers. --Kurt Shaped Box (talk) 16:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth - I've searched all over the Internet - even tried to read Darwins hand-written draft of the book (it's kinda illegible) - and transcripts of letters written to him offering corrections after the first version was published. But I can't find any versions of the book that have the incorrect statement about South America. A variety of searches on the phrasing in Drew's version of the book turn up nothing whatever - but searches on the (presumed) correct version turn up dozens of online transcriptions of the book - from a variety of revisions of it - and without exception, they say "North Carolina". So it's pretty clear that Drew's book is a weird one...it would be really interesting to find out how this change came about. SteveBaker (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is late, but some information from other discussions needs to be placed here for the record:

Evidence of a forgery by Drew Smith.

Community ban discussion that refers to this forgery.

-- Brangifer (talk) 04:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

[Input from third party] I believe that Darwin Could be correct because the earth was once a giant acapeligo and th venus fly trap could have generated in South America and during the split the altitude changed along with the environment for all we know the venus fly trap could have been spreed all the way across the acapeligo to as far as what is now europe or even africa but after the changes the only land left suitable to support the venus fly trap is North Carolina and a small North Eastern portion of South Carolina. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3Foot2011 (talk • contribs) 08:21, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No. This discussion was verified to be a hoax/forgery by an editor who manipulated a copy of Darwin's text. In any case, the evolution of the snap-trap appears to have occurred around 65 million years ago, just into the Paleocene where the continents were already fairly separate. Rkitko ^(talk) 19:36, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Photo source

Hello,

Czech CP society Darwiniana gives possibility to upload photos under CC-BY, which allows uploading them on WMC ([3]). Now only Michal Rubeš and Rosťa Kracík is uploading their photos under CC-BY, but their photos are high quality.--Petr Dlouhý (talk) 06:43, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info! This is a great resource. Is there any way to easily list all of the photos that are CC-By, or do we need to go through, species by species? Cheers, Rkitko ^(talk) 17:49, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For now you can at least search for authors which gives their photos under cc-by. I will write in discussion, if something better can be done. --Petr Dlouhý (talk) 10:35, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. For now I think I'll just continue on through the Drosera and upload their photos. It's likely more systematic that way. And thanks for fixing my previous low-res image uploads. I don't read Czech, so I didn't figure out the download link until a few uploads later! --Rkitko ^(talk) 13:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: be careful, some photos (by Adam Veleba) are under cc-nc-sa, which is not suitable for use in WMC.

If you have problems with czech, google translate or dictionary can be helpful.--Petr Dlouhý (talk) 13:37, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Petr, the identifications are usually excellent, but I've run across at least one that I'd question: [4]. D. rubripetala is a synonym for D. cistiflora with distinctly large orange flowers. Any ideas? --Rkitko ^(talk) 03:13, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I asked on discussion. That plant is similar to D. Spathulata, but it is generating tubers.--Petr Dlouhý (talk) 16:48, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! That's really interesting. A new taxon, perhaps? Regardless, I must say again how much I appreciate this resource. The photos are so much better than one could ever hope for. I've worked my way through all the available CC-BY Drosera and Genlisea photos and have now started on Utricularia. Some of the macro photos of the flowers and bladders are just perfect! My thanks to the photographers for their hard work and willingness to share their photos. Cheers, Rkitko ^(talk) 03:23, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Carnivorous plants of New Guinea

I've been noticing that have been deleted when I place the Carnivorous plants of New Guinea out of Asia, I placed them in Category:Carnivorous plants of Australasia and they have been removed them, O.K. I understand, I placed them in Category:Carnivorous plants of the Malesian region which is more correct and they've been removed, New Guinea isn't in Asia, New Guinea is very distant from Asia, just because someby doesn't like what I do is deleted, placing Carnivorous plants of New Guinea in the Category:Carnivorous plants of Asia is completely wrong.--Jaguarlaser (talk) 18:59, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus on plant categories is to try and follow the World Geographical Scheme for Recording Plant Distributions as closely as possible. In that system, New Guinea is included under the region Papuasia, which itself is included in the tropical Asia category. So it is entirely correct to include carnivorous plants of New Guinea under the Asia category. I also don't think it would be in our best interest to split these categories any further, since we're dealing with so few articles anyway. (Australasia was incorrect because under the WGSRPD, it includes only Australia and New Zealand and a few minor islands.) Would you mind terribly if I went ahead and deleted Category:Carnivorous plants of the Malesian region since it's empty now and shouldn't be used? Cheers, Rkitko ^(talk) 22:24, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed new species article?

Draft:Nepenthes titiwangsa is in the Articles for Creation queue. Do proposed new species count as notable? Newystats (talk) 20:33, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just in case anyone still cares, I think we would generally leave creating an article until a species is formally described unless there is significant coverage prior to that for some reason. It looks like a draft was created for this article, moved around a lot in draft space and then abandoned. YFB ¿ 20:35, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hellooo

Is there anyone still active / participating in this project? I'm gradually tackling Drosera-related articles which seem neglected. Happy to discuss direction and priorities with others... if there are any? YFB ¿ 20:33, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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