Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bangladesh/Geography Workgroup

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WikiProject Bangladesh To-do list:

Add more images to Bangladesh Liberation War and related pages
Clean up Climate change in Bangladesh, it needs a lot of work
Clean up History of Bangladesh after independence, it needs NPOV
Improve Bangladesh back to FA as it was demoted (see discussion)
Improve Bengali language back to FA as it was demoted (see discussion)
Improve Bengalis and related pages
Take a look at the requested articles.
Make a MRT line 3 article.
Extend, add an infobox and a map of New Eskaton to New Eskaton.

Need standardization

We need to standardize the format/subsections of the following articles:

We also need to decide where we put the "Notable people" list. Should this be repeated in Division, District and Upazila article? Arman ^(Talk) 06:49, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Usingha started to work on standardizing upazilas articles (and a Dhaka thanas map) quite some time back. I worked on the Abhaynagar Upazila article hoping that a standard would emerge. The geography stub instruction (visible at Talk:Bagherpara Upazila) tries to do the same (the template looks a bit oversized, no?). Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 09:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and may be we can include:

Cities and towns

as well. Let's start a collaboration right away, like the Bangladesh Liberation War collaboration. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 14:19, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I totally agree some inspiritational work has been done on the upazila articles especially by Usingha. However, higher level administrative divisions (i.e. divisions and districts) are still not in very good shape. Arman ^(Talk) 05:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Let's identify 5 articles from each of the categories, start working on them, and see what is required. Much of the Wikipedia has developed organically, much more is still work in progress. May be that's the way to go. We'll develop one set of standards at the first go, try and implement it to as many articles possible until we hit trouble or fresh opportunities, and then we evolve the standard and go back to the articles already worked upon... Say what? Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 14:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good idea. It can work that way. Arman ^(Talk) 03:16, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you all. Dear Aditya Kabir please go on for Abhaynagar Upazila, and we will follow this article as a model. I also checked stub: Talk:Bagherpara Upazila to improve our Upazila articles. I have following ideas and sources to improve our articles or stubs.

Updating census data from 1991 to 2001 (data for census 2001 in pdf)
History of all upzilas & more up-to-date data can be found from Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics

Finally, if we may, we can create Union Parishad articles like Union Councils of Pakistan & Category:Union_Councils_of_Pakistan. I have the data from BBS (Census 1991), and I created for Bishnupriya Manipuri wikipedia for example bpy:বাংলাদেশর ইউনিয়নগি & bpy:আলীনগর ইউনিয়ন, কমলগঞ্জ. Thanks again for your apprication.--Usingha (talk) 15:16, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Starting fresh

As far as I understand, the current proposal is that we develop standards for the following:

There is a proposal to identify one article each from the categories in discussion. Abhaynagar Upazila has been used as an example. There also is useful guideline applicable to most geography artciles:

To contribute in upgrading this stub article to start class, the following sections need to be created:

History (including: History during the Liberation War)

Geography (including: Location, Landmarks and Environment)

Demography (including: Ethnography and Famous people)

Administration (including: Current Administration)

Economy (including: Employment, Industry, Agriculture and Commerce)

Infrastructure (including: Transport, Health and Education)

Image (including: photographs and maps)

The final leg of the proposal is to upgrade all statistics to a later census report. Well I already had posted the following on Wikipedia:Notice board for Bangladesh-related topics, and therefore could not agree more.

It is stated at Wikipedia:Geographic references#Bangladesh that "On this wiki, we will use the Third Population Census of Bangladesh, which was conducted by Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics on 12, 13, 14 and 15 March, 1991 because the latest census data is not realesed online yet." But, Population census 2001: national report (provisional) has been made available at the Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics website. Do we make use of it now? This newer data will require massive changes in all upazila and district articles.

Finally, I would like to add three more points to the proposal:

Let's also keep using the older census report (available here), as not all the data are common to both the reports. For some critical info we may still need the older report.
May be, we need to develop the core articles on the subdivisions, like Districts of Bangladesh or List of cities and towns in Bangladesh, first and then move on to the standardizing part.
We can, of course, keep working on the individual rivers and towns and unions in the mean time. That would help us to identify the benchmark articles as well.

Thanas of the metros (Dhaka and Chittagong in particular), other waterbodies (beels, haors, waterfalls, water tanks), as well as other geographic entities (mountains, mahallas, forests) need some attention as well. But, I am sure, that would come later. Cheers. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 17:37, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Post Script Uttam, my dear, the union info link in bpy wikipedia isn't working. Can you check on what happened? Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 17:37, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

copyediting the prose

I stumbled upon one of the upazila articles, and noted that the English is a bit in need of tweaking. I'm happy to help -- maybe it's too late, as I gather these were created by bot, but if there's a way to correct the errors in sort of a viral form... Is the article on Abhaynagar Upazila still going to be used as a template? If so, I'll just make adjustments there.

Note: I'm capable of doing style and grammar, but not content at the moment. atakdoug (talk) 20:40, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I worked on Abhaynagar Upazila, in case you are still using that as a basis for replication. It's not perfect yet, in part because in some spots I can't tell what the author meant. But it's better. Meanwhile, if there's somewhere else I should be doing this, please tell me. It'd be a lot more efficient to get it right the first time, than to have to rewrite each article. atakdoug (talk) 21:11, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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