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Rename Independence Day to National Day for Vietnam. DHN 16:41, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for pointing this out. -- PFHLai 17:55, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Inaccuracy

The Transnistria Entry inaccurately states that it is not recognised by any country. In fact it is recognised by Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Look to the List of states with limited recognition page. Outback the koala (talk) 21:22, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The page is generally unprotected until September 1, so feel free to make a suitable change, just as long as you keep it short as possible and it matches the article in question. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:23, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thank you. Outback the koala (talk) 23:27, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Colossal oversight

Japanese Instrument of Surrender

"The Japanese Instrument of Surrender was the written agreement that enabled the Surrender of Japan, marking the end of World War II. It was signed by representatives from the Empire of Japan, the United States of America, the Republic of China, the United Kingdom, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the Commonwealth of Australia, the Dominion of Canada, the Provisional Government of the French Republic, the Kingdom of the Netherlands, and the Dominion of New Zealand on the deck of the USS Missouri in Tokyo Bay on September 2, 1945."

Inaccurate Paryusana Parva dates

Paryusana Parva begins on 26th August and ends on 2nd September. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 11:54, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Paryusana Parva begins for Digambars on this day and ends for Svetambars.--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 11:59, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes

Omitted: Wars of Castro; Rock Springs massacre; Japanese Instrument of Surrender; Ngo Dinh Diem presidential visit to Australia
Included: Great Fire of London (8th appearance, last in 2010); Big Stick ideology (3rd appearance, last in 2010); Principality of Sealand (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); 1992 Nicaragua earthquake (first appearance)
Repeats: Interim Government of India (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:49, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

National Day of Vietnam

September 2 is the National Day of Vietnam, so could anyone with authority please add this event to the Selected anniversaries? Thank you! Grenouille vert (talk) 08:34, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but National Day (Vietnam) has a big yellow maintenance tag on it, making it ineligible. Vietnam also does in the Culture section. So does Proclamation of Independence of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam. The end result is that it can't be included. —howcheng {chat} 18:51, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your answer but to tell the truth, it's very unhelpful since you can just change the interlink of National Day (Vietnam) to List of national independence days and remove the interlink to Vietnam (as the situation right now on September 3, for the Independence Day of Quatar and Armed Force Day of Taiwan), instead, you chose an almost unrelated article of Parliament of the Central Tibetan Administration with only one sentence mentioning the day that you added in the main page. It's not helpful, really. Grenouille vert (talk) 00:10, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There's a few conventions that I didn't mention. For example, when we do an independence day, if there's no specific article for the country's holiday, the link does go to List of national independence days, but then the country is always is the bold article (like for Qatar). That won't do for Vietnam. —howcheng {chat} 03:44, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Right, the article now has proper sources and cats. What else is needed ? :) In ictu oculi (talk) 05:45, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

BTW - What is this weird "edit protected|answered=yes " template doing here? :) In ictu oculi (talk) 05:47, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article is now listed again. Thanks for the work. Also, the {{edit protected}} tag was added by User:Grenouille vert. —howcheng {chat} 16:31, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tx, I've removed the tag, it must have been a mistake. Cheers In ictu oculi (talk) 14:24, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes

Omitted: Parliament of the Central Tibetan Administration (ineligible—maintenance); Great Fire of London; Big Stick ideology; Interim Government of India; Principality of Sealand; 1992 Nicaragua earthquake
Included: Caesarion (first appearance); Wars of Castro (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Battle of Copenhagen (1807) (first appearance); Japanese Instrument of Surrender (6th appearance, last in 2011); Swissair Flight 111 (4th appearance, last in 2010)

—howcheng {chat} 05:24, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes

Omitted: Caesarion; Wars of Castro; Battle of Copenhagen (1807); Japanese Instrument of Surrender; Swissair Flight 111
Included: September Massacres (first appearance); Atlanta Campaign (first appearance; 150th anniversary); Interim Government of India (3rd appearance, last in 2012); Ngo Dinh Diem presidential visit to Australia (3rd appearance, last in 2011); Transnistria (3rd appearance, last in 2010)

—howcheng {chat} 07:31, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes

Omitted: September Massacres; Atlanta Campaign; Interim Government of India; Ngo Dinh Diem presidential visit to Australia
Included: Caesarion (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Battle of Copenhagen (1807) (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Rock Springs massacre (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Japanese Instrument of Surrender (7th appearance, last in 2013; 70th anniversary)
Repeats: Transnistria (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total; 25th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:43, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes

Omitted: Caesarion (ineligible—maintenance); Battle of Copenhagen (1807); Rock Springs massacre; Japanese Instrument of Surrender; Transnistria (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Great Fire of London (9th appearance, last in 2012); September Massacres (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Interim Government of India (4th appearance, last in 2014; 70th anniversary); Hurricane Elena (first appearance); Swissair Flight 111 (5th appearance, last in 2013)

—howcheng {chat} 07:00, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Wars of Castro; Battle of Copenhagen (1807); Japanese Instrument of Surrender; Principality of Sealand
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): 1935 Labor Day hurricane
Omitted: Great Fire of London; Hurricane Elena; Swissair Flight 111
Included: Atlanta Campaign (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Ngo Dinh Diem presidential visit to Australia (4th appearance, last in 2014); 1992 Nicaragua earthquake (2nd appearance, last in 2014; 25th anniversary); Mary Cecil Allen (first appearance); Roekiah (first appearance); Barbara McClintock (first appearance; 25th anniversary)
Repeats: September Massacres (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total; 225th anniversary); Interim Government of India (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:25, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes

New articles (unused): Arthur Rose Eldred/Eagle Scout
Omitted: Atlanta Campaign; Interim Government of India (ineligible—maintenance); Ngo Dinh Diem presidential visit to Australia; 1992 Nicaragua earthquake; Roekiah; Barbara McClintock
Included: Rock Springs massacre (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Principality of Sealand (2nd appearance, last in 2012; rescued from Ineligible); Swissair Flight 111 (6th appearance, last in 2016; 20th anniversary); Bhaktivinoda Thakur (2nd appearance, last in 2012; previously appeared on June 23, his death anniversary); Carlos Valderrama (first appearance)
Repeats: September Massacres (3rd consecutive appearance, 4 total); Mary Cecil Allen (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 125th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 02:52, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes

Deleted: Battle of Copenhagen (1807) (moved to September 5)
Moved to Ineligible: 1935 Labor Day hurricane (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Joey Barton
Omitted: September Massacres; Rock Springs massacre; Principality of Sealand; Swissair Flight 111; Bhaktivinoda Thakur; Mary Cecil Allen; Carlos Valderrama
Included: Great Fire of London (2nd appearance, last in 2016); Battle of Sedan (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); Arthur Rose Eldred/Eagle Scout (Boy Scouts of America) (both: first appearance); Hurricane Elena (2nd appearance, last in 2016); 2011 Chilean Air Force C-212 crash (first appearance); Constantius III (first appearance); Horace Silver (first appearance); Roekiah (2nd appearance, last in 2017)

—howcheng {chat} 23:35, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes

Omitted: Great Fire of London (ineligible—maintenance); Arthur Rose Eldred (blurb also previously featured Eagle Scout (Boy Scouts of America) which is now ineligible); Hurricane Elena; 2011 Chilean Air Force C-212 crash; Constantius III; Horace Silver
Included: Caesarion (3rd appearance, last in 2015; rescued from Ineligible); Ngo Dinh Diem presidential visit to Australia (5th appearance, last in 2017); 1992 Nicaragua earthquake (3rd appearance, last in 2017); Swissair Flight 111 (7th appearance, last in 2018); Kösem Sultan (first appearance); Wilhelm Ostwald (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Sedan (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 150th anniversary); Roekiah (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total; 75th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 16:35, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Principality of Sealand (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Great Fire of London
Omitted: Battle of Sedan; Ngo Dinh Diem presidential visit to Australia; 1992 Nicaragua earthquake; Swissair Flight 111; Kösem Sultan; Wilhelm Ostwald; Roekiah
Included: Rock Springs massacre (4th appearance, last in 2018); Japanese Instrument of Surrender (8th appearance, last in 2015; rescued from Ineligible); 2011 Chilean Air Force C-212 crash (2nd appearance, last in 2019; 10th anniversary); Constantius III (2nd appearance, last in 2019; 1600th anniversary); Jean Victor Marie Moreau (first appearance); Carlos Valderrama (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 60th birthday)
Repeats: Caesarion (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:10, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Atlanta campaign (maintenance); Swissair Flight 111 (maintenance); Joey Barton (maintenance)
Omitted: Caesarion (ineligible—maintenance); Rock Springs massacre; Japanese Instrument of Surrender; 2011 Chilean Air Force C-212 crash; Constantius III; Jean Victor Marie Moreau; Carlos Valderrama
Included: Great Fire of London (11th appearance, last in 2019); Battle of Sedan (3rd appearance, last in 2020); Ngo Dinh Diem presidential visit to Australia (6th appearance, last in 2020); Hurricane Elena (3rd appearance, last in 2019); 1992 Nicaragua earthquake (4th appearance, last in 2020; 30th anniversary); Wilhelm Ostwald (2nd appearance, last in 2020); Horace Silver (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Roekiah (4th appearance, last in 2020)

—howcheng {chat} 19:57, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]