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I wish I could include Battle of Karbala. Too bad it needs some cleanup and has a POV tag. Ditto for Yazid I. Maybe next year .... -- PFHLai 05:34, 9 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hopefully next year, Carlos Céspedes and Ten Years' War won't be as stubby.... -- PFHLai 22:41, 9 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That the battle of Tours stopped the Muslim advance into the rest of Europe is disputed by many modern historians. I don't think that he claim that it did is nowhere near certain enough to merit inclusion in in this context.

Peter ^Isotalo 08:26, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Poitiers

Moving this comment from WP:ERRORS; unresolved before it went off the main page. --Floquenbeam (talk) 13:23, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Martel didn't defeat a "large Andalusian Muslim army"; the Muslims were really few. Historians used to believe it was a great battle, but actually they have in the last decades realized that they were wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.12.171.11 (talk • contribs)

(Citation needed. Historical sources assume Muslim effectives >- Franks.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.56.240.4 (talk • contribs)

From the Italian book "I mille anni del Mediovo"= Thousand years of Middle Ages by Gabriella Piccinni: '(...)La battaglia di Poitiers del 732, dal punto di vista militare una scaramuccia amplificata dalla leggenda fino alla dimensione di battaglia epocale, ne fece [di Carlo Martello] il simbolo della resistenza cristiana contro i musulmani...' which means 'The battle of Poitiers in 732, miltarly a skirmish amplified by the legend up to the dimension of an epocal battle, made of him [Charles Martel] the symbol of Christian resistance against Muslims...' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.12.171.11 (talk • contribs)

End of comments from WP:ERRORS

It seems pretty clear that the battle of Poitiers has become famous more by reputation than any proven achievements. The question is, should it be removed because it was really nothing more than a border clash trumped up by the Franks (and even moreso by later Europeans) as "the battle that saved Europe from Islamization", or is its considerable reputation enough to include it? Even if we keep it, it seems like we at least need to rewrite the description.

Peter ^Isotalo 22:46, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Typo

There's a missing space after the semicolon after "Fiji (1970)" … Just pointing that out. Elium2 (talk) 13:21, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Dissolution of the Netherlands Antilles (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Karbala; Battle of Tours (ineligible—maintenance); United States Naval Academy (ineligible—maintenance); Ten Years' War; Chiang Kai-shek (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Great Hurricane of 1780 (5th appearance, last in 2010); Wuchang Uprising (4th appearance, last in 2006); 1933 United Airlines Boeing 247 mid-air explosion (first appearance); 1964 Summer Olympics (first appearance)
Repeats: Maximilian Kolbe (8th consecutive appearance, 8 total; 30th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 04:21, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Outer Space Treaty
Omitted: Great Hurricane of 1780; Wuchang Uprising; 1964 Summer Olympics; Maximilian Kolbe
Included: Battle of Karbala (3rd appearance, last in 2011); Triton (moon) (first appearance); Double Tenth Incident (4th appearance, last in 2010; 70th anniversary); Spiro Agnew (4th appearance, last in 2010; 40th anniversary)
Repeats: 1933 United Airlines Boeing 247 mid-air explosion (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 80th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:15, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes

Omitted: Battle of Karbala (ineligible—maintenance); 1933 United Airlines Boeing 247 mid-air explosion; Double Tenth Incident; Spiro Agnew
Included: Great Hurricane of 1780 (6th appearance, last in 2012); History of aspirin (first appearance); Xinhai Revolution/Wuchang Uprising (Xinhai: 2nd appearance, last in 2007, was previously ineligible; Wuchang: 5th appearance, last in 2012); 1964 Summer Olympics (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 50th anniversary)
Repeats: Triton (moon) (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:50, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes

Omitted: Triton (moon); Xinhai Revolution/Wuchang Uprising; 1964 Summer Olympics
Included: 1933 United Airlines Boeing 247 mid-air explosion (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Outer Space Treaty (first appearance); Maximilian Kolbe (9th appearance, last in 2012)
Repeats: Great Hurricane of 1780 (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total); History of aspirin (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 09:59, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes

Omitted: History of aspirin; 1933 United Airlines Boeing 247 mid-air explosion; Outer Space Treaty; Maximilian Kolbe
Included: Battle of Karbala (4th appearance, last in 2013); Triton (moon) (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Double Tenth incident (5th appearance, last in 2013); Indictment and arrest of Augusto Pinochet (first appearance)
Repeats: Great Hurricane of 1780 (3rd consecutive appearance, 8 total)

—howcheng {chat} 15:44, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes

Deleted: History of aspirin (moved to August 10)
Moved to Ineligible: 1964 Summer Olympics (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Karbala; Great Hurricane of 1780; Double Tenth incident; Indictment and arrest of Augusto Pinochet (ineligible—maintenance)
Included:Xinhai Revolution/Wuchang Uprising (Xinhai: 3rd appearance; Wuchang: 6th appearance; both last in 2014); Outer Space Treaty (2nd appearance, last in 2015; 50th anniversary); Maximilian Kolbe (10th appearance, last in 2015); Blanche Lazzell (first appearance); Beatriz Michelena (first appearance); Priaulx Rainier (first appearance)
Repeats: Triton (moon) (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 03:22, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes

New articles (ineligible): Women's Social and Political Union (maintenance)
Omitted: Outer Space Treaty; Maximilian Kolbe; Blanche Lazzell; Beatriz Michelena; Priaulx Rainier
Included: Great Hurricane of 1780 (9th appearance, last in 2016); Double Tenth incident (6th appearance, last in 2016; 75th anniversary); Partial Nuclear Test Ban Treaty (first appearance); Paulinus of York (first appearance); Han van Meegeren (first appearance); R. K. Narayan (first appearance)
Repeats: Triton (moon) (3rd consecutive appearance, 5 total); Xinhai Revolution/Wuchang Uprising (both: 2nd consecutive appearance; Xinhai: 4 total; Wuchang: 7 total)

—howcheng {chat} 15:39, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes

Omitted: Great Hurricane of 1780 (deleted; moved to October 9); Triton (moon); Xinhai Revolution/Wuchang Uprising; Double Tenth incident; Partial Nuclear Test Ban Treaty; Paulinus of York; Han van Meegeren; R. K. Narayan
Included: Battle of Karbala (5th appearance, last in 2016); 1933 United Airlines Boeing 247 mid-air explosion (4th appearance, last in 2015); 1964 Summer Olympics (3rd appearance, last in 2014; rescued from Ineligible); Maximilian Kolbe (11th appearance, last in 2017); Adolphus Busch (first appearance); Rekha (first appearance); Charlotte Cooper (tennis) (2nd appearance, last in 2017; also appears on September 22, her birthday)

—howcheng {chat} 15:47, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes

New articles (ineligible): Spiegel affair (maintenance, moved from October 8); Samuel J. Randall (TFA for 2020-06-10)
Omitted: 1933 United Airlines Boeing 247 mid-air explosion; 1964 Summer Olympics; Maximilian Kolbe; Adolphus Busch; Rekha; Charlotte Cooper (tennis)
Included: Triton (moon) (6th appearance, last in 2018); 1911 Revolution/Wuchang Uprising (Revolution: 5th appearance; Uprising: 8th; both last in 2018); Partial Nuclear Test Ban Treaty (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Spiro Agnew (5th appearance, last in 2013); Mary of Waltham (first appearance); George Washington Parke Custis (first appearance); Kazuyoshi Miura (businessman) (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Karbala (2nd consecutive appearance, 6 total)

—howcheng {chat} 22:29, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes

New articles (ineligible): Phillip Davey (TFA for 2021-06-28)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Samuel J. Randall
Omitted: Battle of Karbala; 1911 Revolution; Partial Nuclear Test Ban Treaty; Spiro Agnew; Mary of Waltham; George Washington Parke Custis; Kazuyoshi Miura (businessman)
Included: Ndyuka people (first appearance); 1933 United Airlines Boeing 247 mid-air explosion (5th appearance, last in 2019); Double Tenth incident (7th appearance, last in 2018); Outer Space Treaty (4th appearance, last in 2019; also appeared on January 27); John Paston (died 1466) (first appearance; 600th anniversary); Antoine Coysevox (first appearance); Gavin Newsom (first appearance)
Repeats: Triton (moon) (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total; 175th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:03, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022 notes

Moved to Ineligible: 1964 Summer Olympics (maintenance); Outer Space Treaty (maintenance); Maximilian Kolbe (maintenance);
Omitted: 1933 United Airlines Boeing 247 mid-air explosion; Double Tenth incident; Outer Space Treaty; John Paston (died 1466); Antoine Coysevox; Gavin Newsom
Included: Battle of Karbala (7th appearance); Spiro Agnew (6th appearance, last in 2020); Vidyasagar Setu (first appearance); Luang Pu Sodh Candasaro (first appearance); Kim Ki-young (first appearance); Murder of Huang Na (first appearance)
Repeats: Ndyuka people (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); Triton (moon) (3nd consecutive appearance, 8 total; 175th anniversary)

Heart ^(talk) 04:58, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]