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Today's featured article for November 30, 2024

The January 1908 Irish representative peer election was held to fill a vacancy among the 28 Irish representative peers at the time elected for life to the British House of Lords, with ballots sent by post to the 134 Irish peers eligible to vote. The winner was Lord Curzon (shown), the former viceroy of India, who had never been to Ireland and owned no Irish lands. A former MP, he ran as a way of returning to parliament after being denied an earldom by the prime minister, Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman. As he had never asked the House of Lords to affirm his right to vote in Irish representative peer elections, as required to vote in them, some stated Curzon was ineligible for election. Despite a late start and opposition to him as non-Irish, Curzon led with two votes more than Lord Ashtown, who had two more than Lord Farnham, but the official return noted Curzon was not among those who could vote. When the House of Lords convened, the Lord Chancellor, Lord Loreburn, declared Curzon the winner. (Full article...)

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Picture of the day for November 30, 2024

Winston Churchill (30 November 1874 – 24 January 1965) was a British statesman, soldier and writer who served as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1940 to 1945, during the Second World War, and again from 1951 to 1955. Apart from 1922 to 1924, he was a member of Parliament from 1900 to 1964, and represented five different constituencies. This black-and-white photograph of Churchill, titled The Roaring Lion, was taken on 30 December 1941 by the Armenian-Canadian photographer Yousuf Karsh in the Centre Block on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Canada. Churchill is particularly noted for his posture and facial expression in the photograph, which have been compared to the wartime feelings that prevailed in the United Kingdom – persistence in the face of an all-conquering enemy.

Photograph credit: Yousuf Karsh

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Lucy

Australopithecus afarensis says Lucy's discovery is on November 24. --Puzzlet Chung 12:56, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You are right ! Someone changed the date in June this year [1], and I didn't see it. Thank you. I'll move it. -- PFHLai 16:39, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Abolition of the Death Penalty

I think the 1786 abolition of the Death penalty by the grand-duchy of Tuscany, the first abolition of the Death Penalty worldwide, is a significant enough event to be listed on this page, given especially that there is no other date so far dedicated to the Death penalty; note that November 30 is also Cities for Life day. —preceding unsigned comment by Robin.rueth (talk • contribs) 14:52, 2005 November 29

Good idea. Couldn't find a relevant page with the date on it till now. Will probably feature the Capital punishment page next year. Thanks. -- PFHLai 22:54, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please add Cities for Life Day to the top line. Thanks. --199.71.174.100 03:07, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reigning chess world champion turning 20

Magnus Carlsen turns 20. Could this be an appropriate replacement item for this year? __meco (talk) 16:47, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Sylacauga (meteorite) (maintenance); 1999 Seattle WTO protests (maintenance)
Omitted: Welland Canal (ineligible—maintenance); 1947–1948 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine; U Thant; Thriller (album); John Sentamu
Included: Battle of Narva (1700) (7th appearance, last in 2010); Crimean War (5th appearance, last in 2008; rescued from Ineligible); LNER Class A3 4472 Flying Scotsman (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); The Wall (5th appearance, last in 2009); Bhagavad Gita (first appearance)
Note: Consider having a picture of Andrés Bonifacio in 2013 (150th birthday)

—howcheng {chat} 10:30, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes

Omitted: Andrés Bonifacio (ineligible—maintenance); Battle of Narva (1700); LNER Class A3 4472 Flying Scotsman; The Wall; Bhagavad Gita
Included: Cities for Life Day (rescued from Ineligible); 1872 Scotland vs England football match (2nd appearance, last in 2010); Winter War (6th appearance, last in 2009); Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (4th appearance, last in 2010); 1999 Seattle WTO protests (first appearance)
Repeats: Crimean War (2nd consecutive appearance, 6 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:13, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes

New articles (unused): Battle of Franklin (1864) (POTD for 2014)
Omitted: St. Andrew's Day (ineligible—maintenance); Crimean War; Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act; 1999 Seattle WTO protests
Included: Mutesa II of Buganda (2nd appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); LNER Class A3 4472 Flying Scotsman (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 80th anniversary); U Thant (3rd appearance, last in 2011)
Repeats: 1872 Scotland vs England football match (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total); Winter War (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total; 75th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 13:15, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes

New articles (ineligible): Eclipse (date not cited to reliable source)
Omitted: 1872 Scotland vs England football match; Winter War; Mutesa II of Buganda (ineligible—maintenance); U Thant
Included: (first appearance); Battle of Narva (1700) (8th appearance, last in 2012); Battle of Franklin (1864) (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of Tassafaronga (2nd appearance, last in 2008); Thriller (Michael Jackson album) (2nd appearance, last in 2011)
Repeats: LNER Class A3 4472 Flying Scotsman (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:42, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Internal link to Ireland

Hi. Please, create an internal link to Ireland in the solar eclipse record anniversary. - Owain Knight (talk) 01:25, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The article is no longer eligible, so this is moot. —howcheng {chat} 17:00, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes

Omitted: Battle of Franklin (1864); LNER Class A3 4472 Flying Scotsman; Battle of Tassafaronga
Included: Crimean War (7th appearance, last in 2013); U Thant (4th appearance, last in 2014); The Wall (6th appearance, last in 2012); Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (5th appearance, last in 2013)
Repeats: Battle of Narva (1700) (2nd consecutive appearance, 9 total); Thriller (Michael Jackson album) (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 03:30, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Battle of Franklin (1864) (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Sylacauga (meteorite)
New articles (unused): BAE Systems
Omitted: Barbados (ineligible—maintenance); Battle of Narva (1700); U Thant; The Wall; Thriller (Michael Jackson album); Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act
Included: 1872 Scotland vs England football match (4th appearance, last in 2014); Battle of Tassafaronga (3rd appearance, last in 2015; 75th anniversary); 1999 Seattle WTO protests (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Bhagavad Gita (2nd appearance, last in 2013; 10th anniversary); Emeric, King of Hungary (first appearance); William-Adolphe Bouguereau (first appearance); Shawna Robinson (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Sinop (first appearance; blurb previously featured Crimean War and is making its 2nd consecutive appearance, 8 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:41, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes

New articles (unused): Colombian peace process
Omitted: Battle of Sinop; Battle of Tassafaronga (ineligible—TFA for 2018); 1999 Seattle WTO protests; Bhagavad Gita; Emeric, King of Hungary; William-Adolphe Bouguereau; Shawna Robinson
Included: Battle of Narva (1700) (10th appearance, last in 2016); Thriller (Michael Jackson album) (4th appearance, last in 2016); Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (6th appearance, last in 2016; 25th anniversary); John Sentamu (6th appearance, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible); Richard Farrant (first appearance); Jagadish Chandra Bose (first appearance); Joan Ganz Cooney (first appearance)
Repeats: 1872 Scotland vs England football match (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:49, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes

Deleted: Winter War (moved to March 12); Colombian peace process (moved to November 24)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Battle of Tassafaronga
Omitted: 1872 Scotland v England football match; Sylacauga (meteorite); Thriller (album); John Sentamu; Richard Farrant; Jagadish Chandra Bose
Included: Day of Remembrance for all Victims of Chemical Warfare (moved from April 29);Battle of Sinop (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Mutesa II of Buganda/Kabaka crisis (Mutesa: 2nd appearance, last in 2014; Crisis: first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); The Wall (7th appearance, last in 2016; 40th anniversary); BAE Systems (first appearance); Princess Augusta of Saxe-Gotha (first appearance; 300th birthday); Kamehameha IV (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Narva (1700) (2nd consecutive appearance, 11 total); Joan Ganz Cooney (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 90th birthday)

—howcheng {chat} 17:03, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes

New articles (ineligible): Alexander Berry (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Sinop; Mutesa II of Buganda; The Wall; BAE Systems; Princess Augusta of Saxe-Gotha; Kamehameha IV (ineligible—maintenance); Joan Ganz Cooney
Included: Balmis Expedition (first appearance); Battle of Tassafaronga (4th appearance, last in 2017); U Thant (5th appearance, last in 2016); 1999 Seattle WTO protests (3rd appearance, last in 2017); William Gilbert (physician) (first appearance); Jagadish Chandra Bose (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Ahmadou Ahidjo (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Narva (1700) (3rd consecutive appearance, 12 total)

—howcheng {chat} 03:27, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Howcheng, I believe Mahmud Hasan Deobandi must be mentioned in the 30 November entry. He was among the major Indian leaders and scholars. I've got the article recently promoted to GA, and I don't know how the system works over here. Hence, seeking assistance! ─ The Aafī ^{^(talk)} 05:29, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@TheAafi: I've added him to the list in the staging area. Thanks for the suggestion! —howcheng {chat} 06:27, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes

Omitted: Battle of Narva (1700); Balmis Expedition; Battle of Tassafaronga; U Thant; 1999 Seattle WTO protests; William Gilbert (physician); Jagadish Chandra Bose; Ahmadou Ahidjo
Included: Battle of Sinop (3rd appearance, last in 2019); Alan Turing (10th appearance, last in 2017; moved from May 28); Sylacauga (meteorite) (2nd appearance, last in 2018); John Sentamu (7th appearance, last in 2018); Alexander Berry (first appearance); Frederick Temple (first appearance; 200th birthday); Mahmud Hasan Deobandi (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 05:21, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]