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A king is born? Elvis Aron Presley Born 8 January 1935 Tupelo, Mississippi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.167.157.72 (talk) 12:59, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes

Deleted: Alfred Vail (wrong date)
New articles (unused): 2011 Tucson shooting
Omitted: Stirling, State of the Union address, Herman Hollerith, Operation Auca, Betelgeuse incident
Included: Monaco (first appearance), Blackstone Library (first appearance), Steel strike of 1919 (first appearance), Turkish Airlines Flight 634 (first appearance), Togo national football team attack (first appearance)

--howcheng {chat} 01:11, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum: Stirling added for balance (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total). howcheng {chat} 19:00, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Battle of New Orleans (maintenance); Herman Hollerith (maintenance); Fourteen Points (maintenance)
Omitted: Monaco; Stirling (moved to January 19—Gregorian date); Blackstone Library; Steel strike of 1919; Turkish Airlines Flight 634; Togo national football team attack
Included: Pope Innocent III (4th appearance, last in 2007; rescued from Ineligible); 1811 German Coast Uprising (first appearance); Whiddy Island Disaster (4th appearance, last in 2011; formerly entitled Betelgeuse incident); RMS Queen Mary 2 (7th appearance, last in 2010); 2011 Tucson shooting (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 07:58, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes

New articles (unused): 1996 Air Africa crash
Omitted: Pope Innocent III; 1811 German Coast Uprising; Whiddy Island Disaster; 2011 Tucson shooting
Included: Thomas Aikenhead (first appearance); State of the Union address (3rd appearance, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible); 1977 Moscow bombings (first appearance); Trans-en-Provence Case (first appearance)
Repeats: RMS Queen Mary 2 (2nd consecutive appearance, 8 total; 10th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:00, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes

Omitted: Thomas Aikenhead; State of the Union address; 1977 Moscow bombings; Trans-en-Provence Case; RMS Queen Mary 2
Included: Monaco (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Herman Hollerith (7th appearance, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible); Steel strike of 1919 (2nd appearance, last in 2012); War on Poverty (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); Togo national football team attack (2nd appearance, last in 2012)

—howcheng {chat} 16:41, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Last Thursday was the bi-centennial of the Battle of New Orleans. It seems like that was a big event to miss. Terry Thorgaard (talk) 16:22, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, the article has a {{refimprove}} tag on it, and per the rules that makes it ineligible for inclusion. —howcheng {chat} 16:37, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes

Kim Jong-un's birthday is neither an official or unofficial holiday in North Korea. His birth date is not made public and is not celebrated. Should we take it off the list? Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 06:46, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. —howcheng {chat} 07:44, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Kim Jong-un (per above)
Omitted: Monaco (ineligible—maintenance); Herman Hollerith; Steel strike of 1919; War on Poverty; Togo national football team attack
Included: Pope Innocent III (5th appearance, last in 2013); Battle of New Orleans (6th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Operation Auca (4th appearance, last in 2011; 60th anniversary); Whiddy Island Disaster (5th appearance, last in 2013); 1996 Air Africa crash (first appearance; 20th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:44, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes

Moved to Ineligible: 1811 German Coast Uprising; Steel strike of 1919
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Fourteen Points
Omitted: Battle of New Orleans; Operation Auca; Whiddy Island Disaster; 1996 Air Africa crash
Included: Thomas Aikenhead (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Blackstone Library (2nd appearance, last in 2012); 1977 Moscow bombings (2nd appearance, last in 2014; 40th anniversary); Turkish Airlines Flight 634 (2nd appearance, last in 2012)
Repeats: Pope Innocent III (2nd consecutive appearance, 6 total)

—howcheng {chat} 20:59, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes

Moved to Ineligible: State of the Union (maintenance); Battle of New Orleans (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Sheikh Mujibur Rahman
Omitted: Blackstone Library; 1977 Moscow bombings; Turkish Airlines Flight 634
Included: Thomas Aikenhead (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Kashf-e hijab (first appearance); Togo national football team attack (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Athelm (first appearance); Fanny Bullock Workman (first appearance); Bronislava Nijinska (first appearance)
Repeats: Herman Hollerith (2nd consecutive appearance, 9 total); Harvey Milk (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 40th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 17:18, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Harvey Milk comment is incorrect

He took office on January 8, 1978, he wasn't elected on this date as it currently states. posty (talk) 21:05, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Eposty: Thanks. Next time, please go to WP:ERRORS, where it will be taken care of much more quickly. —howcheng {chat} 18:22, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Fourteen Points (maintenance); Whiddy Island disaster (maintenance); 1996 Air Africa crash (maintenance); Turkish Airlines Flight 634 (maintenance); 2011 Tucson shooting (maintenance)
Omitted: Thomas Aikenhead; Herman Hollerith; Kashf-e hijab (ineligible—maintenance); Harvey Milk; Togo national football team attack; Athelm; Fanny Bullock Workman; Bronislava Nijinska
Included: 1198 papal election/Pope Innocent III (Election: first appearance; Pope: 6th appearance, last in 2016; rescued from Ineligible); Ariodante (first appearance); Blackstone Library (3rd appearance, last in 2017); 1977 Moscow bombings (3rd appearance, last in 2017); RMS Queen Mary 2 (9th appearance, last in 2014); Arcangelo Corelli (first appearance); Wilkie Collins (first appearance); Bernard Krigstein (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 16:58, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Woodrow Wilson (blurb previously featured Fourteen Points, which remains ineligible)
New articles (unused): James Longstreet
Omitted: 1198 papal election/Pope Innocent III; Ariodante; Blackstone Library; 1977 Moscow bombings; RMS Queen Mary 2; Arcangelo Corelli; Wilkie Collins
Included: Thomas Aikenhead (3rd appearance, last in 2018); State of the Union (4th appearance, last in 2014; rescued from Ineligible); Herman Hollerith (10th appearance, last in 2018); Sheikh Mujibur Rahman (first appearance); Togo national football team attack (4th appearance, last in 2018); Nikolay Nekrasov (first appearance); David Bowie (first appearance)
Repeats: Bernard Krigstein (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 30th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 16:45, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Correction/rewriting need

Previously posted on Wikipedia:Main_Page/Errors but in wrong section and Correction/rewriting still need. Hope someone will see this and fix.

1972 – Following the country's defeat by India in the previous year's war, new Pakistani president Zulfikar Ali Bhutto released Bangladeshi politician Sheikh Mujibur Rahman (pictured) from prison in response to international pressure. - Some part of this line is misleading. consider following three things:

1) The independence of Bangladesh was declared on 26 March 1971 at the onset of the Bangladesh Liberation War by Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. After that at midnight on 26 March 1971, Sheikh Mujib was arrested and taken to West Pakistan after midnight (Proclamation of Bangladeshi Independence, Sheikh_Mujibur_Rahman#Establishment_of_Bangladesh, Bangladesh_Liberation_War#Declaration_of_independence)

2) Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 confrontation between India and Pakistan that occurred during the liberation war in East Pakistan from 3 December 1971 to the fall of Dacca (Dhaka) on 16 December 1971.

3) Both Bangladesh Liberation War and Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 ended with Pakistani Instrument of Surrender.

But from this DYK, i getting this idea that there was a war in 1971 (Indo-Pakistani War of 1971) and Sheikh Mujibur Rahman was arrested in that war, and after india won that war, he was released from prison in response to international pressure. This is misleading somewhat. Sheikh Mujibur Rahman was arrested because of Bangladesh Liberation War, not because of Indo-Pakistani War of 1971. It's true india won Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 (which started 3 December 1971) but we are ignoring Bangladesh Liberation War (which started 26 March 1971) for which Sheikh Mujibur Rahman was arrested where Bangladesh won.

I am requesting to rewrite this part: "Following the country's defeat by India in the previous year's war". Please don't mix Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 & Bangladesh Liberation War as same war. My suggestion is rewrite this part as "Following the country's defeat by Bangladesh in [[Pakistani Instrument of Surrender|the previous year's war]]" or "Following the country's defeat in [[Pakistani Instrument of Surrender|the previous year's war]]". --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 17:52, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@আফতাবুজ্জামান: Done, and thanks. —howcheng {chat} 18:40, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes

New articles (unused): Jeremy (song)
Omitted: State of the Union; Herman Hollerith; Sheikh Mujibur Rahman; Togo national football team attack; Nikolay Nekrasov; David Bowie; Bernard Krigstein
Included: Ariodante (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Trans-en-Provence case (2nd appearance, last in 2014; 40th anniversary); 2011 Tucson shooting (2nd appearance, last in 2013; 10th anniversary; rescued from Ineligible); Kadi Burhan al-Din (first appearance); James Longstreet (first appearance; 200th birthday); Robert Baden-Powell, 1st Baron Baden-Powell (2nd appearance, last in 2008; previously appeared on August 1; 80th anniversary)
Repeats: Thomas Aikenhead (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 18:52, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022 notes

Omitted: Thomas Aikenhead; Ariodante; Trans-en-Provence case; 2011 Tucson shooting; Kadi Burhan al-Din; James Longstreet Robert Baden-Powell, 1st Baron Baden-Powell
Included: 1198 papal election/Pope Innocent III (both: 2nd appearance, last in 2019); Herman Hollerith (11th appearance, last in 2020); Kashf-e hijab (2nd appearance, last in 2018; rescued from Ineligible); Sheikh Mujibur Rahman (3rd appearance, last in 2020; 50th anniversary); Jeremy (song) (first appearance); Nicholas Biddle (first appearance); Mór Kóczán (first appearance); T. J. Hamblin (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 01:03, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]