Wikipedia talk:Discussions for adminship/Lar

Oh goodie, I get to be the first penguin off the icefloe. Hope there aren't too many sea lions. My very own Struggle session! This isn't a "real" nomination in that if there is consensus I will nevertheless not be an admin (I will decline to serve) but it is real in that I am desirous of helping this proposed alternative or replacement process get better and more refined, and real in the sense that I am very interested in comments, especially those that by being constructively critical, will make me a better editor and better wikipedian. So let me have it! Don't hold back. I started the ball rolling by editing in some of the things I did (and immediately commited a faux pas by signing that)... but that's it from me for that section, the community should reshape it till they are happy with it. ++Lar: t/c 13:31, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

off-wiki items

I'm torn on these. Are we able to verify them? - brenneman ^(t)^(c) 22:34, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good question... I was torn about adding them too. If it is established beyond reasonable doubt that I am actually Larry Pieniazek and not an imposter, many of them are quite easy to validate (web of trust based validation, at least in some cases, though), and others, not quite as easy. Note that many candidates prefer to retain their anonymity so it's a fair question, should off-wiki items be included at all? Does including them sometimes but not always skew things? ++Lar: t/c 22:52, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some web of trust stuff:

Go here: http://www.ibm.com/contact/employees/us/ and look up Pieniazek... (you only get a few lookups a day there per IP so don't waste them) find the email listed there, and mail that email address asking if that person is the person posting here as User:Lar. Spoofing IBM and IBM email is fairly non trivial to pull off so it would presumably be a fairly strong argument that the person Larry Pieniazek is the correct identity of User:Lar here. Then search with Google for the name Larry Pieniazek and you'll find a lot of circumstantial evidence for all the LEGO related stuff being true. The conference disks IBMPC and IBMEDS clearly are not externally visible but other IBMers could validate their existance and my role in them. The BBS, Galt's Gulch, is lost in the mists of history but in a pinch, phone records could prove it was mine (it is on some archived BBS lists with the number documented). Presidency of the Poughkeepsie IBM club PC club is tougher, again, you'd need to find IBMers that remember it, as IBM is not likely to disgorge that sort of info from 15-20 years ago. Interesting exercise. I suspect most people are actually way way harder to connect to an online identity than I am since my name is pretty unique and I'm well known in a small hobby community. SOOO... that argues against offwiki stuff being included, I think. ++Lar: t/c 23:23, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Poll

So is this dead in the water, or are you going to open yourself upt ~~voting~~ polling, Lar? I admit this is the first I saw it, I was gone all weekend and then the squids went crazy today. -- nae'blis _(talk) 23:02, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It "feels" dead to me... I think it was Aaron that was going to change the tagging to "start voting now" and he never did, perhaps he got preoccupied. I'm not averse to continuing to experiment but I don't think the participation levels are there to justify it. But whatever the community wants is fine by me. ++Lar: t/c 21:55, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]