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Proposals, May 2011

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Rename Category:Oregon org stubs --> Category:Oregon organization stubs

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The result of the debate was rename and slap pegship with a trout :P .
Back in December this cat was created, along with a correctly formed {{Oregon-org-stub}} template; I can only speculate that someone was hitting the egg nog when naming the category. Rename to Category:Oregon organization stubs. Pegship (talk) 00:00, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Usually handled through SFD< but with such an obvious one I don't see any reason why it shouldn't bee speedied....hey....Pegship! Welcome back! Grutness...wha? 01:03, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Oops. Been too long; I forgot the procedure. Good to see you too, G. :P Pegship (talk) 03:40, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Welcome back Pegship, nice to see you again. I'm sure this was suggested here and it was mentioned that the category should be at organization so support
Support with all the rest. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:22, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Moved to sfr as advised. Pegship (talk) 02:45, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
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further split of Category:Roman Catholic bishop stubs

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The result of the debate was create.
This is still close to 600 while further tidying should get this down a bit the following should help

Categories only if the templates do pass the 60 mark. Waacstats (talk) 13:04, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:21, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
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Breakdown of Category:Sphingidae stubs

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The result of the debate was create.
Numbers provided here were provided by Catscan, crossing the permcats with sphingidae-stub.

Dawynn (talk) 12:33, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Everything seems to be in order so support. Waacstats (talk) 13:00, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:21, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Mauritian football biography stubs

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The result of the debate was create.
{{Mauritius-footy-bio-stub}} has passed the 60 mark, speedy create the category? Waacstats (talk) 07:57, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Support speedy. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:20, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
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split of Category:Quebec MP stubs

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The result of the debate was create by party.
Oversized and with at least two ways to split based on other precedants I'll offer both up and see which we prefer. Either a split by dob

or by party with the following parties being viable; Bloc Québécois, Conservative Party of Canada (1867–1942), Liberal Party of Canada, Progressive Conservative Party of Canada guessing at

Discuss! Waacstats (talk) 10:22, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

My own tendency would be to support the second one. I think by-party stubbing tends to make more sense due to the manner in which it winnows down the number of stubs available. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:20, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Australian port stubs

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The result of the debate was do not create.
I am proposing a speedy creation stub (if that's how you phrase it) for Australian ports, docks and marinas. It fits because it is nationwide and... yeah, see S2. This stub can fit under so many like Akuna Bay, New South Wales, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundaberg_Port, rowra Waters, New South Wales]], Challenger Harbour, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fremantle_Fishing_Boat_Harbour, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillarys_Boat_Harbour, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Bay,_New_South_Wales, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Rocks,_Western_Australia and most of them under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ports_in_Australia. Please create.

Oppose. This isn't a speedy, because there aren't 60 stubs for it. There aren't 60 articles in the parent permcat - for the very good reason that there is no permcat (which makes the creation of a stub type questionable in itself). In any case, the articles are almost certainly better sorted by their respective geo types, especially since several of the ones you list cover not only the ports themselves but the towns or suburbs which surround them. Grutness...wha? 01:47, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
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split of Category:European football competition stubs

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The result of the debate was create both for Cz, template for USSR.
Oversized and two templates are over the 60 mark so propose the following

Speedy? Waacstats (talk) 22:37, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Only problem with the USSR one is that it makes Category:Soviet sport stubs undersized. SeveroTC 11:08, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Support all except the second category (Category:Soviet football competition stubs) - that in time. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:19, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Support both. But then, I personally don't have a problem with undersized parent categories, as long as the children are all properly sized. Dawynn (talk) 13:31, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
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Martinique stubs

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The result of the debate was create upmerged templates.
I was quite surprised to discover that there's no {{Martinique-bio-stub}}, even though there's a need for it (and other French overseas territories are so covered); furthermore, I think we could do well to create {{Martinique-politician-stub}}, as there is a new user creating a spate of French overseas politicians stubs. Think it'll work? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 07:36, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Waacstats (talk) 08:41, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Portuguese football biography stubs

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The result of the debate was create.
Oversized propose the usual split

categories iff they pass 60. Waacstats (talk) 10:14, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

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Category:Micronoctuidae stubs / {{Micronoctuidae-stub}}

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The result of the debate was create.
Permcat: Category:Micronoctuidae. Catscan shows 261 articles. Dawynn (talk) 18:08, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

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{{Monument-stub}}?

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The result of the debate was no consensus, not created.
While it is true that Category:Sculpture stubs doesn't yet need splitting (and has quite a number of sculptor articles in it which shouldn't be there, I think a separate stub for monuments and memorials would be useful and would almost certainly get to the threshold for a separate category (Category:Monument and memorial stubs). A quick coulty shows that over 450 of the current sculpture stubs have either the word "monument" or "memorial" as part of their name, and it's likely that many others in the category would qualify for this proposed stub type. Grutness...wha? 01:48, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

  • I'm not 100% convinced by the template name, the reason being that in the Netherlands the equivalent of a graded property or NRHP is called a reiksmonument often shortened to monument so things could get confusing. I dont think {{memorial-stub}} would be much better either and putting both in there would be unecessarily large template name. Waacstats (talk) 09:21, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
What about creating a stub tag for the latter titled {{Rijksmonument-stub}}? (Apologies if I've got the spelling wrong). I think a monument stub tag would be a great help, yes. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:35, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
I was just pointing out that linking monuments to sculptures would be problematic. A {{Reiksmonument-stub}} would be the dutch equivalent of {{NRHP-stub}}, may be a {{Sculpture-monument-stub}} would be better.Waacstats (talk) 23:12, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Given the name of the opermcat, perhaps two separate templates: {{Sculpture-monument-stub}} and {{Memorial-stub}}? Grutness...wha? 00:47, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
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New moth templates and categories

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The result of the debate was create.
To help break down {{moth-stub}}:

Dawynn (talk) 19:06, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

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Speedy requests for moth categories

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The result of the debate was create.

Dawynn (talk) 18:14, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

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Category:Trinidadian football biography stubs

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The result of the debate was create.
{{Trinidad-footy-bio-stub}} has passed the 60 mark, speedy? Waacstats (talk) 10:05, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Support speedy. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:07, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Created at Category:Trinidad and Tobago football biography stubs to fit rest of related cats. Waacstats (talk) 09:24, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Jordanian football competition stubs

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The result of the debate was create.
{{Jordan-footy-competition-stub}} could certainly could take over 60 articles. Waacstats (talk) 21:09, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Support speedy. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:06, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
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Category:East Timorese people stubs

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The result of the debate was create.
The various templates that would populate this total 60 articles, anyone fancy speedying. Waacstats (talk) 20:52, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Support speedy. Dawynn (talk) 18:32, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Support speedy. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:05, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Richmond County, Virginia geography stubs mess; split?

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The result of the debate was correct template.

The template for the stub (Template:RichmondVA-geo-stub), when compared to the category it links to, has resulted in a geographically inaccurate goof. Richmond, Virginia refers to an the independent capital city in the central part of the state, whereas Richmond County, Virginia is an unrelated rural county located a good distance away (see the leads of both articles for more to back that up). Thus the template used refers to the city, whereas the category refers to the county, and the articles marked with it are a jumbled mess of both. Please advise! Morgan Riley (talk) 22:01, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Those related to Richmond city should use {{RichmondCityVA-geo-stub}} so the template needs ammending and the articles relating to the city need moving. Waacstats (talk) 19:59, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Bosanska Gradiška geography stubs

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The result of the debate was create.
Speedy request. To pick up {{Gradiška-geo-stub}} (60 P). Main article: Gradiška. Perm cats: Category:Populated places in Bosanska Gradiška and Category:Gradiška. As you can see from the article, both Bosanska Gradiška and Gradiška seem to be accepted. Using Bosanska Gradiška for parallelism with the permcat. Dawynn (talk) 17:49, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Support speedy. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:16, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Ethology stubs

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The result of the debate was create.
Speedy request. To pick up {{ethology-stub}}. 68 articles. Dawynn (talk) 18:17, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

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Category:French rail station stubs split

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The result of the debate was create.
The Frech rail station category is grossly undersorted. Catscan indicates that the better share of Category:France rail stubs actually belongs here. A simple conservative catscan size-based search through Category:Railway stations in France shows over 900 articles that can be placed here. In order to reduce time spent on extra tagging, I'm asking that templates be made available for each of the regional subcategories found in Category:Railway stations in France. I propose the following templates. The categories are also being reserved here, but will only be built if they can be properly filled:

Dawynn (talk) 15:31, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

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Country-level restaurant templates

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The result of the debate was create.
As mentioned in a recent discussion at WT:WSS, there are currently only a handful of countries with their own restaurant-stub subtypes. I think we at the very least need to add a few of the major ones. The following would each be used on more than half a dozen stubs:

A generic {{Europe-restaurant-stub}} might be useful as well, since there are a large number of countries in Europe with three or four stubs. Grutness...wha? 01:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

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Country-level European rail stations

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The result of the debate was create.
Propose two new category / template sets:

As always, will build template first, and only build category if enough articles can be found. Dawynn (talk) 18:50, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:48, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
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Category:North American building and structure stubs

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The result of the debate was create.
Speedy request for this new parent-only category.

To be parent for:

Also, would be parent for:

We have categories for all the other continents, but NA is strangely missing. Dawynn (talk) 14:18, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Support parent. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:09, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Animal anatomy stubs

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The result of the debate was create.
Permcat: Category:Animal anatomy. Proposing this parent to house:

Dawynn (talk) 17:58, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

{{animal-anatomy-stub}} now tagged on 111 articles. Bump this proposal to speedy. Dawynn (talk) 18:28, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Looks good to me. SeveroTC 18:29, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:09, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Software Lifecycle Management (Computing) stubs

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The result of the debate was do not create.
This is a second stub proposal for this title to the existing one in wikipedia. I will supply the article for the new definition. From: emazoff. 15:25, 9 May 2011

Which articles would this template be used on? Is there a category containing them? SeveroTC 18:18, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
The entire Category:Software maintenance has way too few articles to merit a stub type, and the article Software Lifecycle Management is an orphan. Do not create imho. Pegship (talk) 23:54, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Mercury (planet) stubs

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The result of the debate was create.
Propose the following:

There is a sufficient number of stubs now. Ruslik_Zero 16:28, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Support a template (as we already have {{Mars-stub}} and {{Venus-stub}}) - and a category iff the threshold of 60 is reached. SeveroTC 18:14, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:10, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
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Split of Category:Passeri stubs

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The result of the debate was create.
Propose the following suborder-level categories:

Dawynn (talk) 14:04, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Additional splits:

Dawynn (talk) 14:42, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:42, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
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Category:Northern European basketball biography stubs

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The result of the debate was create.
Propose new parent-only category. We already have Eastern, Western, and Southern, but this one is strangely missing. Would pick up the following categories and templates (based on United Nations geoscheme for Europe):

Dawynn (talk) 19:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:41, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
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Split of Category:Animal stubs

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Propose the following:

Just the templates for now, for exploration of possible categories. Dawynn (talk) 13:43, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:20, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
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Split of Category:Railway station stubs

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The result of the debate was create.
Propose continental-level templates and categories:

Most of the 300+ articles in Category:Railway station stubs should be able to find a home in one of these continental categories. Only general-level articles about types of railway stations, and similar general interest articles should remain. Dawynn (talk) 11:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:19, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Support - and I wouldn't be surprised if there's quite a bit if undersorting here. SeveroTC 16:37, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
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Split of Category:Hadeninae stubs

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The result of the debate was create.
Looks like the following genus-level categories may be viable:

Dawynn (talk) 12:54, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:16, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
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Category:MTR stubs

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The result of the debate was create.
Speedy proposal. To pick up {{MTR-stub}}. I realize that this one has been deleted before, because of reasons posted here. I'm seeing the previous deletion was because:

  1. Category was undersized. Template {{MTR-stub}} is now on 84 articles.
  2. Category was "cryptically named". But there is a permcat called Category:MTR. And there is also a Category:MTR Corporation for the parent company, which explains the name of the child category.

I realize that this will wipe out most of the Category:Hong Kong rapid transit stubs. However, as has been pointed out here, many of the MTR articles have nothing to do with rapid transit. Dawynn (talk) 14:05, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:49, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
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{{AtsimoAndrefana-geo-stub}}

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The result of the debate was create.
Parent is finally off the oversized list but can shrink more. Propose speedy Category:Atsimo-Andrefana geography stubs. 89 stubs tagged with the template. Aelfthrytha (talk) 00:00, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Support speedy. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:48, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
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Proposed Music Genre Stubs

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed creation of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was do not create.
There are many stubs that should be created, but aren't. Examples:

  • {{Punk-stub}} Punk rock stub
  • {{Rock-stub}} Rock music stub
  • {{Grunge-stub}} Grunge music stub
  • {{Rock 'n' Roll-stub}} Rock 'n' Roll music stub
  • {{Techno-stub}} Techno music stub
  • {{Alternative-stub}} Alternative rock stub

Those are just some I would love to see created. Logan The Master (talk) 18:45, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

While I have no problem with most of these concepts, I would suggest some different names:
Dawynn (talk) 13:49, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Only just found this - thanks to it being put at the wrong place on the page. Given that the punk one is at punkmusic-stub, the others should follow suit, surely - at rockmusic-stub, grungemusic-stub, etc... eithe that or the punk one need renaming that to {{punk-music-stub}} (probably a better idea). Will suggest it at SFD. Grutness...wha? 13:07, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
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