Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries/Archive8

August 2005 discoveries

User:Maoririder's contributions

DES already mentioned {{mountain-stub}}, {{Oregon-stub}} and {{Kansas-stub}} as having been created by User:Maoririder without proposing them prior to creation. There are more:

~~{{restaurant-stub}} (wording could do with improvement and the stub tag leads to no category)~~ (edited, formatted, categorized and put to use)
{{fictional-place stub}}
{{MainePBS-stub}}
{{PBSKids-stub}}
{{Basketballbio-stub}} (shouldn't there have been a dash between basketball and bio?)
{{Football-position stub}}

Aecis 17:36, 2 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And another one: {{Knife-stub}}. Aecis 18:16, 2 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have cleaned up {{restaurant-stub}} and put it to use. Aecis 23:19, 2 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Basketballbio-stub is an OK name (sports biographies don't have a hyphen, to keep them in line with things like writer-stub and the like), but we use hoops-stub for basketball, so it should be {{hoopsbio-stub}} for consistency (actually, that seems to already exist). Other than that and restaurant-stub, the rest look pretty useless. Grutness...wha?

A few more for Maoririder's hall of shame:

Jockey-stub could well answer one of the proposals on the Porposal page, if it gets a category. I've redirected Musicbio-stub to Musician-stub, and done the same with redirecting Fungus-stub to Fungi-stub (actually, it's the better name of the two). I speedy-deleted event-stub (re-creation of a deleted template). The rest though... Grutness...wha? 11:30, 4 August 2005 (UTC) Grutness...wha? 11:30, 4 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{Fictionalplace-stub}} might actually be useful if properly propsed and formated, probably renamed to {{Fict-place-stub}}, particularly after we create {{fic-char-stub}} which has been proposed for well over a week now. I'm not sure how many stubs this would apply to but there might well be enough for it to be useful. DES ^(talk) 15:45, 4 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- It's been created previously (top of this section), as {{fictional-place stub}}. --TheParanoidOne 20:03, 4 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Properly formatted, that would make sense, although {{fict-place-stub}} might be a better name for it to end up, to keep it in line with fict-char-stub. Or maybe even fict-geo-stub. Route-stub could probably just be redirected to road-stub for now, too. Grutness...wha? 01:18, 5 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Maoririder (t c) now has an RFC filed on him if anyone wants to add comments or evidence. BlankVerse ∅ 18:34, 10 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{India-film-stub}} / Category:Indian film stubs

Created a couple weeks ago, has 9 articles. Might be able to get enough articles, but we've begun splitting film-stub by genre, not nationality. --Mairi 20:31, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There's an {{indian-movie-stub}} further up on the page, just for that added touch of stub type redundancy :) --TheParanoidOne 22:00, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well that's nice. I'll go ahead and redirect {{indian-movie-stub}} to {{india-film-stub}}, since if we want either, it's almost certainly the latter one that we'd want. --Mairi 22:06, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

...especially since the note further up the page indicates that there is no Category:Indian movie stubs. It might be posible to argue that "Indian films" is just about a separate genre, but if you regarded it as such then Bollywood-stub would probably be the more logical name to stop further splits by nationality. Grutness...wha? 00:35, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I went thru Category:Indian films (and its subcategories), and found about 110 stubs. However, not all of them are Bollywood films, but there might be enough to warrant a Bollywood-stub (or Bollywood-film-stub, so it doesn't get actors and film directors too). Some of the films would have other appropriate genre stubs too but that isn't necessarily a problem. --Mairi 01:13, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

September 2005 discoveries

Bad name, lacks a category, improperly formatted. Has a wikiproject. --Mairi 03:57, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'd redirect to {{modern-art-stub}}, if modern art didn't have a more specific meaning. "Contemporary" is a horrible and much-misused word. Certainly the current name should be changed, though. Grutness...wha? 06:51, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{ITC Entertainment Productions-stub}}/Category:ITC Entertainment stubs

Also not on the stub list, created by User:HowardBerry on July 23rd and has 8 articles Salsb 02:58, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This is part of the WikiProject on ITC Entertainment, a (now defunct) television production company in the UK. HowardBerry 07:56, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{India-eco-stub}} / Category:Economy of India stubs

Been around since June, has some 30 stubs, but the name of both the stub and the category needs work if kept. I suggest {{India-econ-stub}} and Category:Indian economics and finance stubs making it a regional subcat of {{econ-stub}}. The current stub name make me think its about the ecology of india, not its economics. Caerwine 19:27, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I thought the same thing. Grutness...wha? 00:52, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

October 2005 discoveries

{{Off-stub}} / Category:New York Theatre stubs

...for Off-Broadway / Off-off-broadway related stubs. There is an (inactive) wikiproject; but the template is used once despite being created in June. Definitely needs a rename for both the template and category, if it's kept. A musical-theat-stub might be useful, tho. --Mairi 04:35, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This may well be the single most strangely named stub template I've seen. "Off-stub" sounds like a term used by a cricket commentator with a bad cold "The baw glipped the boddom of the bad and knocked the off-stub oud of de groud". Since we have {{Theat-stub}}, NewYork-theat-stub or NY-theat-stub would be the most logical name - if kept. Grutness...wha? 04:58, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{Orgchem-stub}} / Category:Organic chemistry stubs

Created at the end of August. Used on 43 articles, probably worth keeping. --Mairi 19:53, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

wasn't this one cleared at WP:WSS/P? I know there was a split of chemistry stubs at about that time... Grutness...wha? 00:00, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I thought so too, but most likely it was the in/organic-compund split that we are remembering. --TheParanoidOne 10:22, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Compilation album stubs

Not really a new discovery, as it was kept in a Semptember SfD (log), but it still has no template. Unsurpisingly, it's only used on 1 article. --Mairi 03:52, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{Slovak-bio-stub}} / Category:Slovak people stubs

Created today, used on 2 articles. Not sure it'd get that much use; if it's worth keeping it ought to be renamed to {{Slovakia-bio-stub}}. --Mairi 04:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Probably was named using the convention used for {{Czech-bio-stub}}. It's wierd that in English Czechia hasn't caught on for some reason. We don't generally refer to the Slovak Republic (tho apparently that practice is perversely increasing rather than decreasing), or the French Republic, and Ivory Coast was able to insist on being called Côte d'Ivoire with nary a complaint from U.S. users (most of who wouldn't know that they are one and the same), but apparently the Brits still prefer the old name, yet both sides of the pond insist on calling it the Czech Republic instead of Czechia.

However, since we already have {{Slovakia-stub}} (of which about 20 of its stubs could go in the bio stub category if it is kept) and {{Slovakia-geo-stub}} we probably ought to be consistent and use {{Slovakia-bio-stub}} if we're going to have such a stub. Given the non-standard name and the lack of 60 readily identifiable stubs to go in it, I'd be just as happy deleting the stub as with renaming it. Caerwine 05:38, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW - and as some of the old-time stub-sorters might recall, the reason the Czech geo-stubs are marked with {{Cz-geo-stub}} is because of an edit war between people who wanted CzechRepublic-geo-stub and people who wanted Czechia-geo-stub. Cz- seemed the best compromise. Grutness...wha? 06:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{Tvhost-stub}} / Category:TV Show Host stubs

The category needs parents, and it's capitalization leaves something to be desired. But this is probably useful, given the size of {{tv-bio-stub}} (although it's not clear whether we're splitting that by country or type or both). --Mairi 03:56, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Would Category:Television host stubs be clear enough a name? Grutness...wha? 10:11, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be. --Mairi 01:53, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{Hebrides-geo-stub}} / Category:Hebrides geography stubs

Created in september by joshurtree. Over 100 stubs. Looks ok. BL kiss the lizard 23:00, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mmm. Not so OK. :/ We've been splitting the UK by county and region, and the Hebrides straddle two regions. Scotland does need splitting (I've been putting that off until England was a bit more close to completion) but I'm not convinced that this is the way to do it, and it's going to play merry hell with trying to split the rest of Scotland up. Grutness...wha? 00:18, 22 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

So split it into Inner & Outer when it gets big enough, shirley :) - SoM 10:30, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Surely you can't be serious?" "Of course I'm serious - and don't call me Shirley!" Grutness...wha? 10:39, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Category:United Nations stubs

Zero articles and no stub template. Note there is also the repurposed {{UN-stub}} / Category:International organization stubs with 158 stubs, with {{un-stub}} redirecting to UN-stub. The UN-stub should probably be renamed to Intl-org-stub, and the United Nations stub category should probably be deleted. BlankVerse ∅ 03:56, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This was the original category fo UN-stub... but it hasn't been used since February. That's slightly longer than 48 hours, so it can safely be speedied. UN-stub does need a rename, and un-stub is surely deletable. I was sure that it had been on sfd in the past, but apparently not - that is about to be remedied. Grutness...wha? 08:53, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{Canadian law-stub}} / Category:Canadian law stubs

Also created by Spinboy. I've moved the template to canada-law-stub. There is a wikiproject, so probably worth keeping... --Mairi 22:52, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

==={{Slovak-bio-stub}} & Category:Slovak people stubs=== Used on three people (one of whom died 50 years before the modern .cz/.sk split). Is there a lurking mound of bios needing this, somewhere? Redirect to {{slovakia-stub}}, itself not exactly over-sized? Alai 23:17, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This ones already listed a bit further up this page. BL kiss the lizard 00:37, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

D'oh! Alai 03:43, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Badly named, uses Category:Azerbaijan. Also has the horrible redirect {{Azeri}}. Currently unused; I doubt there's that many non-geo Azerbaijan stubs...

There was a proposal on the WSS/P page for an {{armenia-stub}}, and there was an opinion that while that might not be useful, a {{Caucasus-stub}} would be. I'd suggest that Azeri-stub should be deleted and caucasus-stub created, since the cultures and politics of Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan overlap greatly (I can just see the edit wars over which template to put on a stub for someone from Nagorno-Karabakh now...). As to the ones listed here, Azeri is simply one of the races in Azerbaijan, so is a poor name. And as for the other two... urgh. Grutness...wha? 06:11, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Whoops, the first link was supposed to be a category link; so there's only one bad redirect. But deleting this one and creating a caucasus-stub sounds good... --Mairi 06:19, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Rename/delete and recreate, as per. Delete {{Azeri}}, exceedingly. I know it's a redirect, and that it doesn't end in -stub, but as it's a redirect to a sub-template, we might as well deal with it, and since it's "between mini-namespaces", it's in extreme need of deletion. Alai 06:24, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{Env-stub}} / Category:Environmental stubs

Been around since May, but apparently not listed. Used on 11 articles, could be useful, although it might overlap with {{climate-stub}} --Mairi 03:14, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How does this relate to, say, {{sustainability-stub}}? As that's what I've been putting on environmental-type things... --Alynna 07:01, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think that sustainability-stub would be a subcategory of env-stub, as sustainability is roughly a specific topic within environmentalism (and Category:Sustainability is a subcategory of Category:Environmentalism). --Mairi 07:26, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sustianability and environmentalism are both subsets of environment. Alan Liefting 04:44, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This could be useful, so I say keep for now, but rename template to {{environment-stub}} and category to Category:Environment stubs. Aecis 12:42, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Is it not a little nice for editors to have a short stub name. I like the {{env-stub}} bevity. Alan Liefting 09:54, 28 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

no, quite the opposite. It is far better for everyone - especially editors - to have a logical full name, rather than have to remember different abbreviations for different stub templates, especially since those abbreviations can be ambiguous. That's why the Naming guidelines state not to use abbreviations. Grutness...wha? 05:32, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Point taken James. I support the renaming. Alan Liefting 09:19, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

OK - I'll officially propse it at WP:SFD. Grutness...wha? 01:04, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Environmental issues are a large body of knowledge and so a specific stub is needed. It may not have been used due to a lack of knowledge of it. I have noted its existence at Wikipedia:Wikiproject Environment. Alan Liefting 09:54, 28 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I'm inclined to keep, too - with a rename as Aecis suggests (although I'd suggest Category:Environmentalism stubs rather than Category:Environment stubs) - especially since there's a WikiProject. I would, however, suggest that it replaces rather than supplements the small Category:Sustainability stubs - all the sustainability stubs could get the new template and then that category could go to SFD. Grutness...wha? 11:19, 28 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The Category:Environmentalism should be a subset of Category:Environment. I hope to resurrect the Category:Environment. Environmentalism is all about those who protect the environment and the associated social and political movements. Also do not confuse ecology with environmentalism as others do. Alan Liefting 04:44, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not - what I'm suggesting is that the name Environment stubs is too wide a category - it would take in stubs that are better served any of a dozen or more stubs. Have a look at Environment, and you'll see it's a huge disambiguation page - which is why having a stub category with that name (or a main category with that name, for that matter) is not a good idea. Unless you want everythings from political science stubs to State parks to sociology stubs, you need a name which is far more closely associated with your planned target stubs. Ecology, mind you, which you seem to be equating here with environment, would be a far better name. {{Ecology-stub}} would be a much more sensible name for the stub. Grutness...wha? 05:32, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I am not happy with the environment page as it currently stands. It is more of a dictionary entry rather than disambig page. The The word "environment", when unqualified and the context shows otherwise, means the effect of humans on the natural environment. Hence terms such as environmentalism, environmental science etc have come about. The many other entries on the environment page would already have stubs with appropriate names. Suitable stubs to replace {{env-stub}}would be {{Pollution-stub}}, {{Environmentalism-stub}}, {{Conservation stub}}. I do not equate ecology and environment. Ecology is a branch of biology and the "environment" is covered by the interdisciplinary field of environmental science. Alan Liefting 09:19, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

November 2005 discoveries

{{Spirituality-stub}} / Category:Spirituality-related stubs

Created today, used on 1 article. While somewhat distinct, it'd overlap alot with {{reli-stub}}, such that I'm not sure it's viable on its own. --Mairi 04:44, 7 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{Massachusetts-road-stub}} / no category

Created today as roughly a copy of {{Massachusetts-State-Highway-Stub}}. The State Highway renames need to be dealt with before we end up with more things like this.... --Mairi 05:37, 7 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{BiH-stub}} / no category

This one's was a real mess as it had no stub text and fed into Category:Stub categories. Nothing was using it and I've changed it into a redirect to {{Euro-stub}} until we can decide what to do with it. Personally, I doubt if we have 60 stub articles that can use a generic Bosnia and Herzogovina stub at present, but if we do, this would go along with the form set by {{BiH-geo-stub}}. Caerwine 19:50, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

true, although that probably needs a rename anyway. Grutness...wha? 23:56, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

From the stubberg. A redirect to {{economist-stub}} and since the economics stub is {{econ-stub}}, I recommend that we adopt it and place it on the list of approved redirects. Caerwine 23:51, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it's probably a better name that economist-stub, since it allows for a slightly wider trawl of biographies. Grutness...wha? 02:02, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Are you suggesting we reverse tag and redirect? Might not be a bad idea, but text would need careful crafting not to become too broad or ill-defined. Alai 06:44, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Music biography stubs

This cat is part of the Music stubs hierarchy but is not listed in WP:WSS/ST. It has no articles and is the (incorrect, according to WP:WSS/ST) parent of Category:Musical group stubs, Category:Musician stubs and Category:Composers stubs. Do we need it?. Can I correct the parent cat of the above 3 cats?

(There appears to be a related stub {{Musicbio-stub}} which redirects to {{Musician-stub}}, but Category:Music biography stubs was created over a month after {{Musicbio-stub}} was changed to a redirect.) --Bruce1ee 08:04, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if its needed or not... a plan might be to take it to SFD and see what sort of debate can be stirred up there. Personally, I suspect that it could be useful in the same way as Category:Americas geography stubs, which has no template but is a useful parent for several subcategories. Grutness...wha? 08:28, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've listed it at WP:SFD. --Bruce1ee 14:18, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It seems we've had this one and its category around for a couple of months. Very useful, I'd say (so much so that I've added it to WSS/ST). But unfortunately, the template was piped to the category, which means that the articles in the category are currently in completely random order. I've asked Mairi to run her bot over the articles (is it just me, or does that sound rude?), null-editing them now that I've fixed the template. Grutness...wha? 04:28, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect then, that the same pertains to this stub. There is no {{NI-bio-stub}} or {{England-bio-stub}} tho. Caerwine 05:18, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I suppose so, given that it's got close to 200 stubs. And guess what? That's been piped too. Grrrr. Grutness...wha? 07:37, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This one was proposed. (And approved, if only by unanimity of li'l me.) Alai 06:44, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

For articles "identified by the Missing Encyclopedic Articles project as being a high priority for expansion", which makes it hardly a conventional division of stubs. This probably ought to go on the talk page, being a self-referential wikiproject notice. It's also a pretty bad name... --Mairi 06:31, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

like the recent chem stub, its not a stub notice realy. so it should be renamed to something else like just {{Mea}} so as not to confuse people. BL kiss the lizard 08:10, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm taking it to sfd - you're right, it isn't a stub template, so it shouldn't be called that. Mea can't be used though, that's already something else. BTW, it looks like whatever I've got wrong with my sig has hit you, too! Grutness 12:35, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

(sig fixed! Grutness 01:20, 16 November 2005 (UTC))[reply]

Now it's an apparently forgotten redirect to {{Georgia-geo-stub}}, which is only one of the three Caucasian countries. As part of the Caucasus proposal I just made on the Proposals page, I'd like to keep this and revive Category:Caucasus geography stubs for the same purpose as in that proposal, to provide a feeder category for both Europe and the Middle East. I doubt if this one would get many native stubs since all three countries have their own stubs, but it might provide a NPOV alterative to double stubbing for Nagorno-Karabakh geo stubs. Still, I could see wiping out the template and reviving the category. Caerwine 16:56, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I was just considering taking that one to sfd. Personally, I don't think it's really needed any more - we have virtually no Nagorno-Karabakh or Abkhazia stubs, and a few double-stubs aren't going to hurt if they are needed. The main problem is that we'd have Armenia-geo-stub and the others as subcats of Caucasusgeo-stub, which is a subcat of Euro-, which is a subcat of geo-stub. Several levels, most of them largely empty "holding" categories. Anything particularly thorny can easily just get Euro-geo-stub anyway. The problem is different with bio-stub and the general caucasus-stub, because the cultures overlap considerably and it's doubtful there'd be enough stubs for any separate categories. But, though controversial, the country borders are defined, and there are enough geo-stubs for separate categories. Grutness...wha? 22:34, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

So long as the three Caucasian contry geo's filter into both Europe geography stubs and Middle East geography stubs, I don't really care if they do so directly or indirectly through a Caucasus geography stubs. Caerwine 05:02, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

no template / Category:U.S. newspaper stubs

Created 2005-08-07 by Maurreen and applied to 46 articles (as of 2005-11-08). Category:Newspaper stubs is currently over 5 pages, so splitting it is not a bad thing.

Also, Category:Canadian newspaper stubs was created at the same time by the same user (no template). It's currently applied to one article.

Also, Category:Journalism stubs (no template) was created, too, as a subcategory of Category:Newspaper stubs. It's currently applied to 22 articles. I don't think it should be a subcat of Category:Newspaper stubs, but I'm not sure where it should go. I'd be inclined to make Category:Newspaper stubs a subcategory of Category:Journalism stubs, instead.

Thoughts and comments, please. — Fingers-of-Pyrex 15:48, 8 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Here's my thoughts:

Keep Category:Journalism stubs add a {{journalism-stub}} and add it as a category to both Category:Journalist stubs and Category:Newspaper stubs.
Rename Category:U.S. newspaper stubs to Category:United States newspaper stubs and give it a {{US-news-stub}} or {{US-newspaper-stub}} (see below).
Delete Category:Canadian newspaper stubs, it's small, and it doesn't have the prefered name of Category:Canada newspaper stubs.

However before doing any of this we need to resolve the name of the poorly named {{news-stub}} which in light of these discoveries, I'm taking off my back-burner of things to do and sending directly to SfD for a proposed rename to {{newspaper-stub}}. Caerwine 18:56, 8 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed on points 1,2,3 and 4. Should Category:Magazine stubs also be a child of journalism stubs? This one looks a likely candidate for splitting anyway (euro-newspaper-stub, asia-newspaper-stub, UK-newspaper-stub, and US-newspaper-stub, to start with?). Grutness...wha? 01:16, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Once we split Category:Magazines stubs I could see having just the Category:Magazine stubs half feeding into Category:Journalism stubs, but not the Category:Journal stubs. Inceidentally that split will give us an excellent opportunity to depluralize Category:Magazines stubs. Caerwine 04:32, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{Horror-stub}} / Category:Horror stubs

Created today, used on 10 pages. We already have {{fantasy-stub}} and {{sf-stub}}, so this makes some sense... --Mairi 06:02, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Thought it was one already." Sorry, wrong page... Alai 06:44, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Because of its mundane title, I thought it was an officially sanctioned Wiki stub and so I've been using it as a replacement for the {{fantasy-stub}} (I've already put in about 40+ stub articles!). It seemed more logical given the context. However, I will discontinue using it until a final decision about its status is reached. RlyehRising 01:09, 25 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. After pondering the matter for a while, I've come to the conclusion that it could be a useful. It's certainly broad enough as a category. And besides, {{fantasy}} stubs on horror-related articles somehow seems inappropriate. RlyehRising 05:37, 26 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Heck. In the spirit of be bold, I'm going to start using it. Besides, if it ends up getting the axe, a friendly neighborhood wikibot can always undo the damage.
  -,-~^R'lyehRising~-,- 02:30, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Created today; I've cleaned it up and added a category. Only used on 1 article (which isn't clear that it's about a politician), but might as well keep it until {{US-politician-stub}}. --Mairi 07:46, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There is, ISTR, an ongoing split of US-politician along state lines, so this one's almost certainly a keeper. Grutness...wha? 00:22, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{Oregon-politician-stub}}, {{Washington-politician-stub}}

Created on Sunday, welformed (altho the categories could use more parents and the standard text), used on 1 article each and added to WP:WSS/ST. Might as well keep them around until {{US-politician-stub}} is sorted, although these seem less likely to be useful than other states... --Mairi 07:04, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

User:Duja decided to "help" my effort of marking Bosnia and Herzegovina stubs as {{Euro-stub}} and created a stub category for me... nice gesture, but he doesn't seem to understand the procedures, so please forgive him and either just make a redirect to {{Euro-stub}}, as with {{BiH-stub}}, or just delete it, whichever you find apropriate. (My oppinion is we should create a decent stub category for BiH and end with this chaos.) --Dijxtra 21:21, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. Under the circumstances, it might be worth seeing whether we can find 60 stubs, redirecting this to BiH-stub, and finally "activating" that with its own category. Can you find 60 B/H stubs (not counting the ones marked with things like BiH-geo-stub)? Grutness...wha? 00:56, 23 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure I can. Give me few more days, I'm in a bit of a fuss right now, but I'll do the job eventually. Then I'll put a notice on "Proposales" subpage and then we'll discuss proper naming for it. --Dijxtra 08:28, 23 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{Fiji-geo-stub}} Category:Fijian geographical stubs

had 43 articles. looks ok but not cleared and the category names wrong. ive gone thru Fiji stubs and Oceania geography stubs and thats taken it to nearly 60 articles. im going to take the cat to sfd for renaming tho. BL kiss the lizard 11:35, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

December 2005 discoveries

Created today, used on 5 articles. Feeds into Category:Security. Given the enormous scope of that category, I think this is probably too vague... --Mairi 02:28, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

...and speediable as a re-creation. Grutness...wha? 02:33, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

also worth noting that the handful of articles marked with this were all far too big to be considered stubs. Look at Waxkenhut and security guard to see what I mean. Grutness...wha? 02:47, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{Kosovo-stub}} & no category

Actually has a redlink category Kosovo stubs. The idea has been discussed, but dismissed for three reason, lack of stubs, the name issue (Kosova or Kosovo?), and the uncertain status of the place. Haven't seen anything to indicate that lack of stubs has changed, nor have the other two problems. Was on 1 article that I restubbed with just Serbia-stub (it acually had both for some reason).

This one should go to sfd - it's been turned down recently for good reasons. Grutness...wha? 00:25, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted via SFD. This is ready for logging. --TheParanoidOne 23:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Created today, used on 1 article, has category redlink. Probably not desirable as we generally don't have bio categories for subdivisions, but at one point it was an independent country... --Mairi 02:47, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The Galicia one like this went straight to sfd, so... Grutness...wha? 05:04, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Galicia * stubs

{{Galicia-stub}} / Category:Galicia-related stubs (28 articles)
{{Galicia-bio-stub}} / Category:Galician people stubs (13 articles)
{{Galicia-geo-stub}} / Category:Galicia geography stubs (1 article)
{{Galicia-hist-stub}} (malformed)
{{Galicia-writer-stub}} / Category:Galician writer stubs (5 articles)

A variant of the first one ({{Galician-stub}}) was deleted a month ago, so that could be speedied. However, it's the only one of these that looks possibly viable; but there's still the issue of how to distinguish that these are for the Spanish Galicia and not the Ukrainian/Polish Galicia. --Mairi 02:40, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There was a suggestion of splitting the Spanish geo-stubs a few weeks back that wasn't acted on. But for now, these should all go - with the possible exception of the first one - and the person who created them should be had a word with. I'm taking all of these straight to sfd. There is a brand-new wikiproject, but there's no call for most of these templates, and the boilerplate used to create wikiprojects specifically says that stub templates shouldn't be created without being proposed. Grutness...wha? 03:03, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

All have now been deleted via SFD except for galicia-stub and cat. --TheParanoidOne 11:50, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{Philippines-stub}} & Category:Philippines-related stubs

I've been keeping an eye out for this one to see if there were enough stubs to justify a proposal. However, an anonymous user created this one on the 3rd and assigned it to one article. It definitely needs a quickie correction of the category to lose the "-related", but I'm in favor of letting it stay a while to see if we can get enough stubs. Should be able to get it up to the 30+ level fairly easy. Caerwine 00:58, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

me too. There seems to be a lot of activity on Philippine articles on Wikipedia - this one should get up to speed easily. Grutness...wha? 00:25, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{Transformers-stub}}/Category:Transformers stubs

Created today, 108 articles. - SoM 16:26, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This one was proposed and approved. --Mairi 18:37, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Missed that :) - SoM 18:53, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{AndhraPradesh-geo-stub}} / Category:Andhra Pradesh geography stubs

Another one to split {{India-geo-stub}}. Well formed (after renaming the template from version with a space); hopefully it'll get 60 stubs. --Mairi 08:35, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Probably connected with the proposed India-geo split on WSS/P. It'll probably reach 60 stubs (he says, hopefully) Grutness...wha? 09:55, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{NewHampshire-geo-stub}} / Category:New Hampshire geography stubs

Created today, unused, category lacks any parents. --Mairi 05:58, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, these two (NH and MA, below) are probably close enough that it won't make any difference (60 and 49 stubs respectively). They should be reformatted correctly, though, and a grumble should be left on User:Geoset's talk page. It leads to another question, though... these are the last two northeastern states to get geo-stubs. Will we need the intermediate parent any more? Grutness...wha? 06:07, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

ive gone through and populated them. the NE US cat is now empty. its ME btw not MA. BL kiss the lizard 10:11, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

{{Maine-geo-stub}} / Category:Maine geography stubs