Wikipedia:WikiProject Pokémon/Species focus archive

These are archives of the discussions on what the aticle needs improving about it.

Bulbasaur

• It needs an In the card game section.
  • Perhaps this could be merged with the manga section. in other properties? A Man In Black's idea.
  • I'll add the card game info. --RealWingus
    • Done. I also removed the External links, I think they are unnecessary. --RealWingus
      • I added the {{pokerefs}} template instead. --Celestianpower
• The infobox needs to be updated to the new template if the disvcussion heralds a "yes" about it coming in at all.
  • Add the infobox. If the consensus is to change the box, we can always go back and fix it.
• It needs some information about its Video game stats and what advantages/disaadvantages it has against the other starters.
  • Done. --Celestianpower ^{hab | myRFA}
• We should add info on strengths and weakness against Bulbsaur, this is important info! -vs151
• I can cover that.-Waterbending girl12

Meowth

• Needs merging of information from Meowth (anime character).
• Needs better referencing to Team Rocket
  • Note that User:A Link to the Past and User:A Man In Black are in the process of rewriting and improving Team Rocket.

Mareep

• I merged the "Name origin" section with the intro. --WindFish 22:41, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
• I renamed "Availability" section and italicised the names of the games. --WindFish 23:55, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
• I just wikified the Biology section. --Celestianpower ^háblame 14:33, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
• I confirm that Mareep infobox is unionalized! Now I'll do the rest --Young XenoNeon (converse) 18:01, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
• I think I did the intro. Afraid to strike through,though--Young XenoNeon (converse) 18:04, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
• Anime section added. Not sure if its long enough, though...--Young XenoNeon (converse) 08:30, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
• Added Trainer Card Info--Young XenoNeon (converse) 09:22, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
• We could definitely say that we fixed it up enough now, surely. Mareep has very infrequent appearances in the anime and it isn't really mentioned in the news, similar to most Pokemon except really Pikachu and D/P Pokemon. --Young XenoNeon (converse) 20:31, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

  Yes - I'll get round to changing it soon. --Celestianpower ^háblame 20:58, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Weedle

What can't you do? This needs a total rewrite, but, specifically:

• Lead needs fixing up per WP:PAC/S
  • Needs to be clear about its role as a Pokemon (one of the first that the player encounters, etc)
    • Took care of that during my pass through. -- WikidSmaht (talk)
• Headers need fixing -- done. WindFish
• Needs more info from the Anime - it's appeared loads of times. Plot summaries would be good.
  • I included the most relevant stuff I could find, but it really hasn’t played a noteworthy role many times. -- WikidSmaht (talk)
• Needs just one section about the video games - done, but needs more info. WindFish
  • Stats ...etc...
    • Is that really necessary? I don't think anyone battles with Weedle, and you can't even teach it any moves other than String Shot and Poison Sting. -- WikidSmaht (talk)

• • • Yes, it is necessary. Although most battles with Weedle don't involve much, we still need a basis of its stats. I think I'll do it now...--XenoNeon (converse) 10:07, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

• Needs a biology section, including all of the info from all of the entries in the Pokedex.
  • Created, but needs more info -WindFish
    • Done, all Pokédex info (from 12 different games) synthesized into a prose paragraph. Wish it was longer, but the entries were all pretty repetitive. -- WikidSmaht (talk)
• Try searching Amazon for books including it - does it appear in the news?
• It must appear in the manga somewhere.
  • I put in the most prominent appearances from Pokémon Adventures, I don't know much about the other manga, don't currently have access to my Electric Tale of Pikachu stuff. WikidSmaht (talk)
• Needs concensus as to whether “In the Pokémon anime” and “In other media” should have subheaders.
  • Probably not, based on WP:PAC/S and the extremely limited amount of content. -- WikidSmaht (talk)

Note: In the anime section, there is a note on Casey, which has a link. However the link leads you to Abra.

Casey (Pokémon) I'm not sure what it means, or if there actually is an article on Casey, but maybe someone should look into it.

Probably because “Edgar Cayce” is pronouced “Edgar Casey”. -- WikidSmaht (talk) 14:19, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, what had that got to do with Pokémon or Abra? Right... Highway 21:45, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

It's a bit clearer if you read the Abra article, where it tells you the Japanese name of Abra is "Kēshī". I suppose this can be romanized as "Casey", which would explain the redirect. WarpstarRider 23:52, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

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• Headers fixed - WindFish
• Biology section created with minimal content - WindFish
• Video games section created with some content - WindFish
• Took care of intro during my pass through. -- WikidSmaht (talk)
• Included the most relevant anime stuff I could find, though it really hasn’t played a noteworthy role many times. -- WikidSmaht (talk)
• All Pokédex info (from 12 different games) synthesized into a prose paragraph. -- WikidSmaht (talk)
• Video games section rewritten. -- WikidSmaht (talk)
• Put in the most prominent appearances from Pokémon Adventures. -- WikidSmaht (talk)
• Cleaned up the entire media section, fuuun! Added to the anime and cleaned it up - HighwayCello
  • I don't think those subheaders are necessary in such small sections... -- WikidSmaht (talk) 01:00, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Marshtomp

What a mess! Yuk! Anyway, this mainly needs expansion, as opposed to style since every would-be section is about 1 sentence long:

1. Create a 2 paragraph lead, one for why it's important (and the crucial lead sentence) and the other for what it looks like (mention Ken Sugimori)
2. All sections need to be 2 good paragraphs long before splitting off into headers. There must be loads we can write, it's a starter evolution for cripes sake!
3. Get some pictures - scan a card, photograph a toy, screenshot it on an Emulator...

   I got a TCG card photo, in a rush and haven't put a caption or anything yet, somebody do that...

4. References could do with some serious cleaning up.
5. Search pokémoncenter.com, toysnjoysonline.com and hasbro.com for merchandise

   I found as much as I could, but I'm sure there must be more than what I found. PrimeCupEevee 02:09, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

6. Find out if any of the cards are notable
7. Find out if it appears in any other manga

   Now I wonder where you found this article? :P I'll keep working on Weedle and report back later.. moving on I'm going to freak on this... now!

   We definitely need to convert the Trivia section so it follows the PCP Style Guide. I think if we clarify it to fit the suggested sections, it should go from terrible to bad.--XenoNeon (converse) 17:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

   If you check Talk:Bulbasaur we've to adopt Bulbasaur's style, it does make more sense, German and French names aren't vital info, why should they be there?

• Wrote the Pokémon Adventures paragraph
• Wrote Trivia section
• Wrote the TCG (needs tweaking, I'll do that today) Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 10:39, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
• Added anime image.
• Added TCG scan. Alvin6226 18:42, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Makuhita

• Lead
  • WP:PAC/Sise
  • {{nihongo}}
  • Why is it important?
• "Information" section
  • Rename (Biology or characteristics, whichever appropriate)
  • Remove in-game perspective and POV
  • Reference in the Pokédex
• "Availablility" section
  • Rename (In the [Pokémon] video games)
  • Who uses it and why (how good is it?)?
  • Evolution
• "Extra" - merge into video games section or other media as appropriate
• Not currently included
  • "In the Pokémon anime" section needed - summaries and references needed (Serebii'll do)
  • "In other media"
    • Does it appear in the manga? If so, we need summaries and references (Serebii'll do)
    • Toys/books? (can be referenced with Amazon or suchlike)
    • Trading card game - we need a scan of a card, and we need to know how good it is, why it's used ...etc...

Lots to do :). —Celestianpower ^háblame 16:06, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

• Added TCG scan. Alvin6226 ^talk 04:56, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
• Converted into something bizarrely like the style headers.
• Padded out the intro.
• Cited the Pokédex.
• Add what it does/job to intro (added new intro). Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 07:22, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
• I added a manga section Poke Master (Talk • Contribs) 15:10, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
• I added a screenshot of it. --RandomOrca2 21:44, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Quilava

• Fix the in-universe perspective.
• Find references!
• It's a starter evolution - the video games section deserves much more than that
• Expand the anime section.
• Create a trading card game section.
• Write a manga section, Gold has one in Pokémon Adventures.
  • All tasks completed. Highway ^Daytrippers 20:01, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

• I added the TCG section —Minun ^{Spiderman • Review Me} 09:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• I added an image —Minun ^{Spiderman • Review Me} 10:01, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• I added the manga section
• Someone (not me) expanded the anime section
• Me and a bunch of other users added references —Minun ^{Spiderman • Review Me} 10:21, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Added TCG pic. Alvin6226 ^talk 04:59, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
• Rewrote manga, I lifted a para of Charizard that I had wrote. Clarke the Conductor, squashed by a flying ice cube. XD Highway ^{Return to Oz...} 18:28, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
• Fixed up characteristics removing in-universe POV, and made some chages to the Video Game section which were promptly reversed. The reverser has not responded yet to my inquiries and I'd like others to go view my changes and give their feedback on Talk:Quilava. Zappernapper 00:14, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Could you please stop trying to have a go at me? I reverted your changes, because parts of it were nonsense and original research. I suggest you let go of any grudges you have against me, because it isn't help your case. Highway ^{Return to Oz...} 10:43, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
    • please refer to WP:DR thank you Zappernapper 18:58, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
• I added a bit more to the TCG section and I cleaned up the Infobox. Double Dash 11:12, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
• I added possible Japanese name origin and moved some information down to the characteristics section. Shaojian 04:57, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
• I've cleaned up grammar in the "In the video games" section. I tried to make the section a little more concise. --Brandon Dilbeck 05:27, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
• I deleted the quotes in the "Characteristics" section, deleted already mentioned info in "In the video games", and added minor details in "In the manga". -DragonMan98 16:40, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

the quotes were there because parts of it were verbatim from the Pokedex itself. -Zappernapper 04:26, 2 September 2006 (UTC)