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Herennius Etruscus

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Nominator(s): Iazyges (talk)

I am nominating this article for A-Class review because it is a part of my Roman and Byzantine Emperors project, and I believe it meets the A-Class standards. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 23:16, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

CommentsSupport by CPA-5

Herennius Etruscus was elevated to caesar in 250 --> "Herennius Etruscus was elevated to Caesar in 250, then further raised to augustus" because they're titles? Same in the body?
Not sure what the suggestion is here? In some sources its common to say "elevated to [rank]" and "raised to [rank]"; some sources even keep "created [rank]". Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 16:39, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Iazyges:I think it was meant to capitalise "Caesar" because it's a title or am I wrong?

Titles by themselves are not capitalized. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 01:02, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

their forces meeting in September 249, near Verona, Italy Unlink Italy because of common term.
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although Hostilian remained in Rome.[5][4] Re-oder the refs here.
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Decius and Herennius Etruscus' forces at the Battle of Beroe --> "Decius and Herennius Etruscus's forces at the Battle of Beroe"
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circumstances of Herennius Etruscus' death are somewhat --> "circumstances of Herennius Etruscus's death are somewhat"
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was acting as an imperator, rather than a commilito What are imperator and commilito?
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Decius' death is similarly obscure, although it is agreed upon --> "Decius's death is similarly obscure, although it is agreed upon"
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else was slain while serving as imperator.[7][1] --> Re-oder the refs here.
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I see two howevers maybe remove one because it's a short article?
after which point Volusianus, Trebonianus Gallus' son --> "after which point Volusianus, Trebonianus Gallus's son"
I believe the "History" section is too big and should be split into sub-sections.
Done
Decius and Herennius Etruscus travelled to repulse the Gothic invasion British travelled.
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That's anything from me. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 15:22, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@CPA-5: Done all. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 16:39, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@CPA-5: - are you satisfied with Iazyges' responses? Parsecboy (talk) 20:55, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm waiting for his reply. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 22:13, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@CPA-5: Have responded. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 01:02, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Iazyges: Another thing here I don't think ('cause of MOS:OVERLINK) we should link Latin here. It's too common. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 10:18, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@CPA-5: done. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 19:26, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Cheers. 17:08, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Comments Support from Harrias

"He was born in c.227 AD." Space needed before "227". This also applies in the infobox, and the first sentence of the body. Use {{circa|227}}
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"caesar", "augustus", "imperator", "commilito" and any other non-English terms should be italicised using {{lang}}, not plain italics, per MOS:LANG.
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Link vanguard in the lead, and the first use in the body.
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Link rout in the lead, and the first use in the body.
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You spell Abritus with a single 't' in the lead, but with a double in the infobox and the body. Pick one version and be consistent.
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The infobox provides a modern location for Abritus (Razgrad, Bulgaria), but this isn't cited, or included in the body.
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"who later became Emperor.." then a sentence later "Decius became emperor after" Why is one capitalised, but not the other?
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"with one column attacking", "with one attacking Philippopolis" Avoid Noun plus -ing.
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"from sieging Novae" Sounds awkward, maybe "from laying siege to Novae"?
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Maybe put "(Balkan Mountains)" after "Haemus Mons" for clarity.
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"Decius and Herennius Etruscus launched a counterattack in spring 251 and was initially successful.." This should be "were", not "was".
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"..are somewhat vague." No need for "somewhat".
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"After the news of his death reached Decius, Decius refused.." Reword to avoid repetition of "Decius".
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"..either from a plague or murder, [1][8]" Remove the space between the comma and the references.
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"..after which point Volusianus, Trebonianus Gallus' son.." No need for "point".
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Nice succinct article, although it did feel in places like details about father and then his successors was being used to pad out a short article. Harrias ^talk 09:14, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Harrias: Done all. I try to avoid padding, but sometimes the neccesary context is a singificant part of the article when it comes to the more obscure classical figures. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 22:25, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Harrias: - can you indicate whether you support promotion at this point? Thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 20:56, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have made some copy-edits, and am now happy to support this. Harrias ^talk 09:37, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

Three images, all appropriately licensed. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:28, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

All sources are high quality. No spot checks done. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:28, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

CommentsSupport by PM

Short but seems pretty comprehensive. I have a few comments:

"He was born in c. 227 AD" is unnecessary, as his approx year of birth is in the first sentence
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suggest "and was ~~also~~then proclaimed emperor by the Roman Senate"
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suggest "Herennius Etruscus was killed in the Battle of Abritus the following year"
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say that the Battle of Battle of Nicopolis was in 250
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I acknowledge there are images of coins, but could you add a sentence about the coinage on which this chap was represented? Sellars' The Monetary System of the Romans has some info.
Sellars' would be potentially useful, but is self-published, therefore failing WP:V. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 09:38, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
there is a bit of information in Vagi's Coinage and History of the Roman Empire you could add
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That's all I could find. Nice work. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:01, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Peacemaker67: Believe I have done all. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 09:38, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, supporting. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:00, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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