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1958 US–UK Mutual Defence Agreement

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This is an unusual article, which grew organically from humble beginnings. I overhauled it in 2017. It wasn't my intention that it could be a featured article someday, but in its current form I think that it might be. I'd like to draw your attention to the pic of Eisenhower laying the cornerstone for the AEC's headquarters in Germantown, Maryland. The AEC decided to relocate there so it would be safe when Washington, DC, was razed by an atomic blast. Somebody thought that it would be cool if Eisenhower laid the foundation stone with a trowel made from radioactive uranium that had been in the first nuclear reactor, Chicago Pile-1. (With a wooden handle made from one of the benches at Stagg Field.) The Secret Service did not agree, so it is not the one he is using in the picture. Today the trowel is in the Smithsonian. [1] Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:45, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

CommentsSupport by PM

This article is in great shape. I have a few minor comments:

when mentioning Ivy Mike perhaps say when it was conducted
Y Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:27, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
link British pounds
Y Linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:27, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"to the Ministry of Defence"
Y Added and linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:27, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
drop the cap on "Congressional leaders"
Y dropped. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:27, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"confidential intelligence" needs an initial cap
Y Capped. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:27, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
comma after "Chief Scientific Adviser to the Ministry of Defence"
Y Inserted. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:27, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
drop the cap on "Anglicise"
Y Dropped. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:27, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
link Yellow Sun (nuclear weapon)
Y Linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:27, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
should subscritical be subcritical?
Y Yes. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:27, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
should Krakatau be Krakatoa?
N No. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:27, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That's all I have. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:48, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:27, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, great article. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:45, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The sources are all reliable and of high quality. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:18, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

CommentsSupport by CPA-5

What kind of style of English do you use? American, British or Australian? Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 10:51, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I use Australian English, and the spell checker is set to that; but the article should be in British English. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 10:53, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here you have it. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 12:07, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

United Kingdom on nuclear weapons cooperation American cooperation.
Y Hmmm. The Brits seem inconsistent on this one. Oh well.. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
While the US has nuclear cooperation agreements Same as above.
Y Changed. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
the Operation Grapple test on 8 November 1957 remove 1957 here the readers know we're still talking in 1957.
Y Okay. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
US in return for 6.7 kilograms (15 lb) of tritium American kilograms. However it is alowed to use kilograms in the UK. If you don't want that then it should be kilogrammes. I let you choose which one.
We'll stick to "kilogram" per the UK's National Measurement Office. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Link tonnes and don't forget to add long tons too and link it aswell.
No need. Perversely, kilograms and tonnes are the imperial units for fissile materials. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
the Combined Development Trust to coordinate their American coordinate.
Y Got it. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
commercial and military cooperation into the post-war American cooperation.
Y Got it. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
On 4 July 1945, Wilson gave British agreement for the use of nuclear weapons against Japan.[9] On 8 August 1945 the Prime Minister Remove both 1945s here.
Y deleted. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Truman about future cooperation in nuclear American cooperation.
Y Got it. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The United States Atomic Energy Act of 1946 (McMahon Act) ended technical cooperation Same as above.
Y Got it. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Should English units be primary or metric because tonnes is metric?
MOS:UNITS: In non-scientific articles with strong ties to the United Kingdom, the primary units for most quantities are metric There are exceptions, none of which are applicable in this article. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
they proposed limiting the British program in return American programme.
Y Got it. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
On 1 November 1952, the United States conducted Ivy Mike Remove 1952 here.
Y Done. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
US v. U.S.
Y Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
uranium ore from Canada, and coordinating the war plans American coordinating.
Y Got it. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
on 15 May 1957.[50] The Grapple tests were facilitated by the United States, which also claimed the island.[51] Although the initial tests were unsuccessful,[52] the Grapple X test on 8 November 1957 achieved Remove both 1957s
Y deleted. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Washington, DC v. Washington, D.C.
Y Used "DC". Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Remove all the 1957s (except the first one) in the last paragraph in the Sputnik crisis section.
Y Left a couple. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
pressed for more discretion to cooperate with all American cooperate.
Y Got it. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
would pay the UK $30 per gram for plutonium that cost $12 per gram to produce the UK uses grammes in stead of grams.
Per the above, sticking with grams. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
using Red Snow cost £500,000 compared Unlink the British pounds here.
I was asked to link it. See above. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
the US nuclear weapons program American program.
Y Got it. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Australia, Canada, Namibia, South Africa, the United States and Zaire Link Zaire and Namibia didn't exist so I reckon we should use link South West Africa here.
No, because the context runs into the 21st century. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Other nuclear material was also acquired You mean another?
No. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
which it considered to be a joint discovery You mean is instead of it?
No. "it" refers to the British government" Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
our status as a first class power First class needs a hyphen.
Y Done. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
over a ten year period Use ten-year or remove all and use ten years.
Y That would seem better. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
high-speed cameras, mechanical safeing You mean safely?
No. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
cylindrical symmetry, cross sections Cross sections needs a hyphen.
Don't think so. Linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That's anything from me. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 12:05, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Looks great. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 19:55, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Nick-D

Support This article is in great shape. I have only two minor comments:

"The British hydrogen bomb programme successfully tested a hydrogen bomb in the Operation Grapple test" - I'd suggest rewording to avoid repeating 'hydrogen bomb' and 'test' in the same sentence

Y Re-worded. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:03, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"despite concerns that the 10 October Windscale fire might prove a stumbling block in negotiations" - I'd suggest saying why
Y Added a bit more about this. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:03, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nick-D (talk) 01:26, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

G'day Nikkimaria, would you be willing to take a look at the image licensing on this one, please? It looks close to promotion. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:16, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

File:HMS_Splendid_S106.jpeg: source link is dead. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:24, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like it has been taken down. Good thing it was copied to Commons. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:07, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't it though. Is there an alternate link that could confirm the given licensing? Nikkimaria (talk) 01:29, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I crawled the site and found it here and have updated the link. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:01, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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