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[edit]06:34, 5 October 2024 review of submission by Faridgurbanov3
[edit]Why my article is rejected ? Faridgurbanov3 (talk) 06:34, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- The reviewer left you the reason for rejection at the top of the draft, "This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia." 331dot (talk) 07:58, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
09:16, 5 October 2024 review of submission by Vaclav Pinos
[edit]- Vaclav Pinos (talk · contribs)
I can't seem to publish my article for some unknown reason. Vaclav Pinos (talk) 09:16, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- The reason is given on your user talk page. I cannot see the deleted sandbox, so I don't know what was in it; but I'm guessing that you should read what Wikipedia is not. If you have further questions, you'd best ask the editors who rejected and deleted your sandbox. (I know somebody advised you on your user talk page to ask here, but now that your sandbox has been deleted, there is no information available for editors such as me to give you any more precise answers). ColinFine (talk) 13:53, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- The draft was a piece of fiction, plain and simple. (A fictional emperor who lived 1500 years BC, and whose motto was "peace, love, and skate". In English. If I remember correctly, the emperor of China and the king of Spain attended his funeral.) --bonadea contributions talk 19:48, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
09:19, 5 October 2024 review of submission by Vaclav Pinos
[edit]- Vaclav Pinos (talk · contribs)
Could you please let me publish my article,I have spent a lot of time researching Vaclav Pinos (talk) 09:19, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- No, sorry. And be advised that you can't use Wikipedia articles to source other Wikipedia articles, per WP:CIRCULAR. This isn't a place to write fiction. 331dot (talk) 09:21, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
15:08, 5 October 2024 review of submission by Bzbustamante
[edit]- Bzbustamante (talk · contribs)
Hi, I have modified list of exhibitions as suggested by editors and added online references about the artist from Google books and other sources. Its been 3 months since the last time the article was reviewed. Can somebody check again? Thanks, Beatriz Bzbustamante (talk) 15:08, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- It is pending review. As noted on the draft, "This may take 2 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 1,317 pending submissions waiting for review." Please be patient. 331dot (talk) 15:33, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
20:00, 5 October 2024 review of submission by 41.114.159.209
[edit]How to publish my page again? 41.114.159.209 (talk) 20:00, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- Your draft has now been rejected twice. Please stop wasting your own and other people's time in trying to get this clearly not-notable topic into Wikipedia.
- Once the album has been released, then if you can point to multiple places where people wholly unconnected with Garden have chosen to write at length about the album, and been published in reliable sources, then it will be possible for an article to be written for Wikipedia. That is obviously extremely unlikely to happen before the album is released. ColinFine (talk) 20:32, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
20:09, 5 October 2024 review of submission by Princemke
[edit]why is my article not notable for wikipedia Princemke (talk) 20:09, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- The draft in its present form is totally unsuitable for Wikipedia, because it is unsourced. Wikipedia does not care what you (or I, or any random person on the internet) know or think about a subject even if you are the creator of the subject. Wikipedia is almost only interested in what has been independently published about a subject.
- If @KylieTastic has rejected your draft, you may take it that they have looked for suitable sources and not found any, and concluded that the subject does not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability. ColinFine (talk) 20:35, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- Also as you said it was just created October 1, 2024. Wikipedia is not for promoting new things. KylieTastic (talk) 20:54, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
20:33, 5 October 2024 review of submission by 2001:2042:39B9:F300:98BF:46D6:AC92:3387
[edit]I don’t understand what can be done to fix the draft better.
2001:2042:39B9:F300:98BF:46D6:AC92:3387 (talk) 20:33, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
20:47, 5 October 2024 review of submission by Zhuvelo
[edit]Hi! I've tried to submit a page for creation, but it's been rejected by two people saying that it doesn't meet the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MUSICBIO requirements. I can prove that it does, but there is no way to communicate this to the draft reviewers besides posting it on their talk pages after they have already rejected the submission. Is there a way to submit an article for creation and have a two-way communication with the reviewer before they accept or deny it? Zhuvelo (talk) 20:47, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- You need to show in the draft how the topic meets the notability criteria, it shouldn't require a two way conversation with anyone. We need sources that show it for verifiability, as you can't have two way conversations with everyone who reads the article.
- If you want to discuss something about the draft, you may do so here. 331dot (talk) 20:52, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response. Looking at Draft:Roger Bright, in what ways does it appear to you to not meet the notability requirements? Just for some context, here's what I typed up for one of the reviewers about the notability requirements that it meets:
- Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself [he has full page articles about himself from the International Polka Association, the Cleveland-Style Polka Hall of Fame, and the Racine Journal Times, among others]
- Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable) [has released 35 records on Cuca Records, an important independent record label]
- Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles [He has performed in ensembles with Joey Miskulin, Frankie Yankovic, and Slavko Avsenik, all of whom are independently notable musicians]
- Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city [the most prominent representative of both the city of New Glarus and of polka music in New Glarus]
- Has won first, second, or third place in a major music competition [Not strictly a competition, but I believe being inducted into 3 different Polka Hall of Fames counts as "winning" those competitions]
- Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, such as a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album [has performed on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, the Phil Donahue Show, and the Charlotte Peters Show, among others]
- Zhuvelo (talk) 21:20, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- If he has 35 albums, that might work, but you still need independent reliable sources that give him significant coverage.
- Are you saying he formed bands/ensembles with all those people?
- New Glarus is a town of 2200ish people. I'm guessing it doesn't have a lot of polka music performers. If you has independent sources saying he was important to polka music in Wisconsin more broadly, maybe.
- Being named to halls of fame is not a "music competition". Think American Idol, The Voice, etc.
- Performing on a TV show is not what that refers to; that refers to performing the theme song of a show or other work. 331dot (talk) 21:35, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response. Looking at Draft:Roger Bright, in what ways does it appear to you to not meet the notability requirements? Just for some context, here's what I typed up for one of the reviewers about the notability requirements that it meets:
20:57, 5 October 2024 review of submission by 41.114.137.20
[edit]How can I publish my article again? 41.114.137.20 (talk) 20:57, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- You don't. And please don't make a new thread for every question about the draft, just edit this existing section. 331dot (talk) 21:01, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- And please stop creating drafts and other pages about Bayley Garden and his future releases. We've had Draft:Bayley Garden, Draft:Countrey Classic, a sandbox and an article at Bayley's Garden. Wikipedia has articles about topics that have already been written about in independent secondary sources. --bonadea contributions talk 21:39, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
23:18, 5 October 2024 review of submission by LeopoldFriedrich
[edit]I tried to submit this article. On the first submission I was told to include more secondary sources instead of primary. So I did add more secondary sources in part replacing primary ones. The sources have programming in AL at heart and I don't understand the second rejection as no reason was given, I could further act upon. Instead the first reason was reapplied. Should I really add more sources, when is it enough sources? It isn't like there aren't more for example I could also include https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmutcQcEh0, and https://alguidelines.dev/docs/bestpractices/ coming in part from the same person or https://yzhums.com/30559/ a blog describing and linking sources to a specific topic about the AL programming language, but I'm unsure about them, because it isn't about the topic at large or something that would necessarily fit the article. LeopoldFriedrich (talk) 23:18, 5 October 2024 (UTC)