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Hi, I am a new editor on Wikipedia, I work at Betconstruct (disclosure on user page), the company has asked me to write an article for the company. The article I wrote was rejected twice, once because it sounded like a promotion (I managed to fix this issue with the help of another editor) and now because of WP:GNG. I am looking for directions and advice to fix the issue and make an article that fits with Wikipedia's standards. BetConstruct is a B2B company, it doesn't get much media coverage, but it is still a major actor in the gambling industry, comparable to Betsson and Kindred Group or BBiN, thus I still believe that the company is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia.
I would like to collaborate with a more experienced user to prove notability and fix any other issues that the article has.
Thanks in advance
Unpluggedbrain (talk) 06:58, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- Unpluggedbrain If your company does not have significant coverage in independent reliable sources, it would not merit an article at this time, and no amount of editing can change that. You need to be able to show that the company meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company with such sources. The requirement for significant coverage in independent reliable sources does result in some subjects not being as covered(or not covered at all) on Wikipedia compared to others, unfortunately. Feel free to show your superiors this message. 331dot (talk) 07:11, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- 331dot It does get coverage, but mainly on websites covering the gambling industry, such as SBC News and igamingbusiness (sources used on the Wikipedia pages of other B2B gambling companies). It has been mentioned quite a bit on independent media but the articles are generally not about the company itself but it's brands, so it's a passing mention "brand x subsidiary of BetConstruct". It has also gotten a lot of press coverage locally, in Armenia, would that be enough to establish notability? Thanks. Unpluggedbrain (talk) 07:39, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- Unpluggedbrain As stated in this portion of the notability guidelines, "attention solely from local media, or media of limited interest and circulation, is not an indication of notability". Only being written about in trade publications doesn't help establish notability. I would add that the draft has been rejected, not just declined, meaning that it will not be considered further. To be frank- and I apologize- you will only be wasting your own time and that of others by pursuing this further, at least until your company receives significant coverage outside of trade publications. 331dot (talk) 07:45, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- 331dot I understand, well thanks for the clarifications. A final question, if and when the company gets more coverage (let's say in a year or so), how should I proceed? Unpluggedbrain (talk) 07:58, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- Unpluggedbrain You would need to start a fresh draft and submit it for review, just as you did your first one. If you do not edit your current draft for six months, it will be deleted due to inactivity and then you could recreate the draft in a year(or whenever). 331dot (talk) 08:07, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- 331dot Ok, thanks again for the help! See you around.
- Unpluggedbrain You would need to start a fresh draft and submit it for review, just as you did your first one. If you do not edit your current draft for six months, it will be deleted due to inactivity and then you could recreate the draft in a year(or whenever). 331dot (talk) 08:07, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- 331dot I understand, well thanks for the clarifications. A final question, if and when the company gets more coverage (let's say in a year or so), how should I proceed? Unpluggedbrain (talk) 07:58, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- Unpluggedbrain As stated in this portion of the notability guidelines, "attention solely from local media, or media of limited interest and circulation, is not an indication of notability". Only being written about in trade publications doesn't help establish notability. I would add that the draft has been rejected, not just declined, meaning that it will not be considered further. To be frank- and I apologize- you will only be wasting your own time and that of others by pursuing this further, at least until your company receives significant coverage outside of trade publications. 331dot (talk) 07:45, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- 331dot It does get coverage, but mainly on websites covering the gambling industry, such as SBC News and igamingbusiness (sources used on the Wikipedia pages of other B2B gambling companies). It has been mentioned quite a bit on independent media but the articles are generally not about the company itself but it's brands, so it's a passing mention "brand x subsidiary of BetConstruct". It has also gotten a lot of press coverage locally, in Armenia, would that be enough to establish notability? Thanks. Unpluggedbrain (talk) 07:39, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
07:53:54, 3 September 2020 review of draft by JW254
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Hello, I need help merging the contents on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Havoc_of_Choice to this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Wanjiru_Koinange.
The feedback given was to merge the contents on the book with that of the author. Thanks
07:53, 3 September 2020 (UTC)JW254 (talk)
08:43:26, 3 September 2020 review of submission by Haruto.S
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I have added more information to the article, including the history section and more references. I hope it has become more competent to be included in Wiki. If not, it would be very appreciated if you could let me know your advice on further improvement.
Haruto.S (talk) 08:43, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
08:44:50, 3 September 2020 review of submission by Sharrisonhuang
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Sharrisonhuang (talk) 08:44, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- Sharrisonhuang You don't ask a question, but Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves. Please see the autobiography policy. Your draft, which was completely unsourced, was rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 08:56, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
need help for my wikipedia page creation. Getting rejected
Xenderdom (talk) 09:44, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- Answered at the teahouse. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 11:05, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
10:24:29, 3 September 2020 review of submission by Dezignme
[edit]i make an artical about iliaskhn that is was not publishd make my life Below this line, tell us why you are requesting a re-review. Take as many lines as you need.-->}}
Dezignme (talk) 10:24, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- No indication how this meets WP:NPERSON. [1] is a directory entry lacking WP:SIGCOV. [2] is something by the subject. I suggest you use alternative outlets. Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:38, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
12:20:00, 3 September 2020 review of submission by Ranjithpdevadas
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Ranjithpdevadas (talk) 12:20, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- This lacks any form of reliable source. Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:35, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
13:20:54, 3 September 2020 review of submission by Ritzz07
[edit]Hi! this draft:JioTV has been declined because of notability concerns. I have added more notable references (its been 1 week only after the rejection so I got only 1-2 additional references) in order to fix this and added the explanation in a comment. I would really appreciate if someone can have a look at this draft. After then I'll resubmit this for review. Thank You Ritzz07 (talk) 13:20, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- Ritzz07, as you are practically asking for a re-review, I will submit the article for review on your behalf. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:36, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
14:12:14, 3 September 2020 review of draft by DEVEGOWDA S R
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Filmography of V. Ravichandran mentioned clearly in the main page. What is the valid reason to create this page?
DEVEGOWDA S R (talk) 14:12, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- I generally don't know what's one's intention to create an article. If you mean why this is in draftspace, it has been moved because it was undersourced. Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:28, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hoodlife06 (talk · contribs)
Hello, this is my first article on Wikipedia, and after the last review my submission has been rejected. The reason for this was: The topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. I need help and information how I can make the article notable or which changes do I need to make for this article for it's notability.
Thank You
Hoodlife06 (talk) 16:20, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Hoodlife06: The declining reviewer included in their decline note a message and a link to our notability guidelines. The short story is, the mere existence of a musician/rapper/person does not guarantee inclusion in a global encyclopedia. You have to demonstrate that the subject is notable, that is, that major mainstream sources are discussing the subject, his work, his impact, his history, his life, etc. Lyric sites, blogs, his Soundcloud presence—these simply don't do that. I could create a Soundcloud account and proclaim myself a musician, but that doesn't mean anybody cares about my mad brand of key-smashing. So until this individual receives a good deal of coverage in multiple mainstream sources (big newspapers, big magazines, etc.) he will not likely be suitable for inclusion here. Hope that helps. Regards. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:55, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
17:26:49, 3 September 2020 review of submission by Smokethatskinwagon
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this living person was nominated for a CMA Award
https://www.cmaworld.com/cma-announces-nominees-for-the-54th-annual-cma-awards/
Smokethatskinwagon (talk) 17:26, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
18:04:43, 3 September 2020 review of submission by Eshawn Scipio
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I was creating an article about Paralegals in which I would link a page that is about me the owner, With the creation of my article for Eshawn Scipio; it is a user page as well. I am sorry; I am very new to this!