Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 February 27
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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:User grieving. Primefac (talk) 20:47, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Template:User grieving (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:User Grieving short (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Propose merging Template:User grieving with Template:User Grieving short.
No need for two templates (the short form, currently unused, is a recent fork); make the message switchable by using |short=y
, or similar, if needed. Or simply delete the short version? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:30, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete and add parameter per nom. —Matrix(!) (a good person!)[Citation not needed at all; thank you very much] 15:10, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep in whatever fashion works best. I've seen this userbox in use before but it's not going to be a permanent addition to anyone's User page. The only way I think these two should be deleted is if they are redundant to other, similar template messages. But if that's not true, then I argue that we keep these and allow editors to signal when they are under duress. I don't think they are likely to be misused. Liz Read! Talk! 07:36, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- This is a proposal to merge two templates, not delete them. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:49, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support merging and adding parameter. Frostly (talk) 22:29, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge, having more customisable templates like this instead of forking them is generally better in my opinion because it's all in one template. But I don't see any issue if this doesn't get merged. Theooolone (talk) 02:59, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 01:46, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:52, 27 February 2024 (UTC)- merging and adding parameter This is a template the should not be in use at all, but unfortunately that is not how life works. The Banner talk 01:03, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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Uw meta templates
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Closing instead of relisting on the basis that this has been going for almost a month, even if it's only been relisted once. (non-admin closure) Queen of Hearts she/theytalk/stalk 06:34, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Uw4im (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Uw4 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Uw3 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Uw2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Uw (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Propose merging Template:Uw4im, Template:Uw4, Template:Uw3 and Template:Uw2 with Template:Uw.
Consolidation, standardization of messaging for a given policy/guideline violation. We can have the template output be different depending on the level of the warning (block, 4im, 4, 3, 2, 1).
As an example, we could have the uw-disrupt series have code that looks like this with a merge:
{{Uw
|level={{{level|}}}
|softreason=be unconstructive
|reason=disrupt Wikipedia
|details=
* If you are engaged in an article [[Wikipedia:Editing policy|content dispute]] with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the [[:{{<includeonly>safesubst:</includeonly>#if:{{{1|}}}|{{<includeonly>safesubst:</includeonly>TALKPAGENAME:{{{1}}}}}|Help:Talk pages}}|article's talk page]], and seek [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] page, and ask for independent help at one of the [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution#Ask for help at a relevant noticeboard|relevant noticeboards]].
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The output can then be standardized based on the level. Awesome Aasim 21:51, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
Merge per nomination. 209.151.151.155 (talk) 04:16, 21 February 2024 (UTC)– sock vote struck NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:54, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)- Oppose. The current templates function well and are easy to use. This looks like consolidation for its own sake, and is a poor choice of that. oknazevad (talk) 00:07, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting point of consideration for now: Most of our templates don't even use this stuff. I disagree this is consolidation for consolidation sake, especially because adaptability and mistakes is improved when templates need to be updated in fewer places. Awesome Aasim 00:59, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2024 March 7. ✗plicit 06:38, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Template:FCPtopic (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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The result of the discussion was merge as proposed Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 15:12, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Mop (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Icon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Propose merging Template:Mop with Template:Icon.
This template is a 16x16px admin mop icon, primarily used on Wikipedia:Missing Wikipedians. I propose merging it into Module:Icon/data (with the code admin
& the alias mop
- or the other way around), both for consistency - to have Wikipedia-related icons accessible from one template - and because it meets the scope at {{icon/doc}} as an inline image that is used in metapages
. After merging, I propose turning {{mop}} into a wrapper template for {{icon
Let me know if there are any queries. All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 22:20, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge. All seem like worthwhile proposals to me. As the original creator of mop icon, no objections here, as long as it still functions as intended at WP:MWP with no accessibility issues for people with screen readers, then go for it. -- œ™ — Preceding undated comment added 01:48, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:37, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Indigo Moss (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
No notable albums or singles. Only bluelinks were "related", but were too tangential for inclusion. --woodensuperman 14:37, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Veronica Falls (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
One album, two singles. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 14:34, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Royworld (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Only one album. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 14:23, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:16, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Only one article linked. WP:NENAN. I don't believe this a suitable for a topic for a navbox anyway. --woodensuperman 13:13, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:16, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Only one article linked!!! WP:NENAN. I don't believe this a suitable for a topic for a navbox anyway. --woodensuperman 13:13, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:14, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Only two articles linked. WP:NENAN. I don't believe this a suitable for a topic for a navbox anyway. --woodensuperman 13:12, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: The Saints don't actually retire numbers. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2024 March 5. ✗plicit 14:13, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2024 March 5. ✗plicit 14:13, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 11:33, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Sonamoo (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Useless, all links redirect to main article. --woodensuperman 10:11, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was keep. ✗plicit 11:32, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Template:GRTCPulse (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
With all bus stops recently redirected to the main article or DAB-pages, there er not enough valid links left to navigate between. WP:NENAN The Banner talk 08:33, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. This isn't a navigation template; it's a one-use routemap. Not the same situation as {{GRTC}}. Mackensen (talk) 12:16, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Mackensen. Routemaps are just that - maps - and aren't primarily for navigation between articles. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:11, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- So it would make sense to unlink all the non-notable bus stops? The Banner talk 20:33, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Probably, though consensus can change, and that decision is out of scope for this discussion. Mackensen (talk) 02:46, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- So it would make sense to unlink all the non-notable bus stops? The Banner talk 20:33, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 11:31, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Template:GRTC (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
With all bus stops recently redirected to the main article or DAB-pages, there er not enough valid links left to navigate between. WP:NENAN The Banner talk 08:31, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as nominator. Mackensen (talk) 12:17, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:11, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 00:38, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 01:38, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
This template misrepresents the reality of the situation. Per the Atlanta Falcons, "The Atlanta Falcons organization doesn't officially retire jersey numbers, but considers certain player's jerseys worthy of being honored. The Falcons Ring of Honor honors individual players and not jerseys.
"[1] Hey man im josh (talk) 00:35, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete this and all navboxes in Category:National Football League retired number navigational boxes. These are not suitable navbox topics. It's just additional navbox clutter. --woodensuperman 13:05, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Strong disagree on the usefulness aspect of other navboxes in this series, but that's for another discussion. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:37, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't say useful, I said suitable. --woodensuperman 16:07, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Noted. I suppose my interpretation of suitable was not what you meant. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:17, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't say useful, I said suitable. --woodensuperman 16:07, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- No reason some can't be suitable; it's considered the highest honor by a team. List of Green Bay Packers retired numbers is an FL, so WP:NAVBOX #4 is met at least. Anyways, it's beyond the scope of the original nomination, and others have !voted based on that. —Bagumba (talk) 14:31, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Strong disagree on the usefulness aspect of other navboxes in this series, but that's for another discussion. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:37, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 00:39, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NAVBOX #4
There should be a Wikipedia article on the subject of the template
Moreover, the team itself says they didn't retire them.—Bagumba (talk) 14:34, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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