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Template:Gian Pyres

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:52, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Gian Pyres (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name. The Banner talk 23:24, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nominator. None of the links are sufficiently closely-related to the head article.. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:10, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
delete, not enough core links for any individual band. Frietjes (talk) 15:40, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Timo Rautiainen

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:53, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Timo Rautiainen (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. The Banner talk 23:21, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, not enough core links. Frietjes (talk) 23:35, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It has only 1 core link (plus the head article), so it fails WP:NENAN's minimum of 5 core links + head article.
The head article should of course be incorporated in a navbox if one exists, but it is no reason to justify the creation of a navbox. The head article is always prominently linked from the article anyway, so a navobox is not needed to get to it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:14, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Juha Kylmänen

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:54, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Juha Kylmänen (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name The Banner talk 23:17, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nominator. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:37, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
delete, not enough core links for any individual band/project. Frietjes (talk) 15:41, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Julianne Regan

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:07, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Julianne Regan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on her own name The Banner talk 23:17, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nominator. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:37, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:James Dewees

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The result of the discussion was move Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:33, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:James Dewees (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name The Banner talk 23:16, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

reformat as Template:Reggie and the Full Effect to fix overlap with Template:The Get Up Kids. Frietjes (talk) 23:35, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Reformat per frietjes. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:36, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Said the Whale

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The result of the discussion was relisted on Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 June 11 Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:02, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Matt Sanders

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The result of the discussion was reformat Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:04, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Matt Sanders (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name The Banner talk 23:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

reformat as Template:Blood Duster. Frietjes (talk) 23:32, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Reformat per Frietjes. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:24, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Jörgen Sandström

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:21, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Jörgen Sandström (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name The Banner talk 23:04, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. No core links. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:20, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
delete, not enough core links for any individual band/project. Frietjes (talk) 15:45, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Walter Schreifels

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The result of the discussion was reformat, if this doesn't solve the link number problem, please feel free to renominate. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:26, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Walter Schreifels (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name. (The only album on his name has no article) The Banner talk 22:30, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

reformat as Template:CIV (band). Frietjes (talk) 23:31, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Even if reformatted as suggested by Frietjes, it would have only 4 core links (plus the head article), so it would fail WP:NENAN's minimum of 5 core links + head article.
The head article should of course be incorporated in a navbox if one exists, but it is no reason to justify the creation of a navbox. The head article is always prominently linked from the article anyway, so a navbox is not needed to get to it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:39, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- just to clarify, in your comments on moistboyz, you stated that it had 4 core links, which means we count the band members (see Moistboyz). hence, CIV would have five core links since it would include Sammy Siegler and Walter Schreifels and three albums, plus the title article? Frietjes (talk) 18:52, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:John Corabi

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:37, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:John Corabi (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name. (The only one album on his own name has no article) The Banner talk 22:28, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. No core links. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:22, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
delete, not enough core links for any individual band/project. Frietjes (talk) 15:46, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Gabe Serbian

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The result of the discussion was move, as it appears this will fix the low link count problem. Feel free to renominate if this is not the case. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:09, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Gabe Serbian (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name. The Banner talk 22:26, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

reformat as Template:Zu (band). Frietjes (talk) 23:30, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom; nothing in his own name. Even if reformatted as suggested by Frietjes, it would still have only 4 core links (plus the head article), so it fails WP:NENAN's minimum of 5 core links + head article.
The head article should of course be incorporated in a navbox if one exists, but it is no reason to justify the creation of a navbox. The head article is always prominently linked from the article anyway, so a navbox is not needed to get to it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:25, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- see Zu (band)#Discography, it would have more than four. Frietjes (talk) 15:47, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - The albums linked from that discography look like a feast of non-notability. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:33, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - AfD/prod first, then TfD. Frietjes (talk) 17:46, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      - Sure, article deletion before template deletion. But you are proposing template creation for this feast of non-notability. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:48, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        no, just moving it to a new name and re-arranging the links. helps to preserve the template history. Frietjes (talk) 15:42, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Hide if placeholder image

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:22, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Hide if placeholder image (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No longer used in infobox templates. Functionality now available in Module:InfoboxImage. WOSlinker (talk) 22:24, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, nice work orphaning it. Frietjes (talk) 23:30, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
delete, good work, I hope this does keep stuff up with WP:IPH (there are more images which should not be displayed (in mainspace) per that consensus ...). --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 06:41, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Hank Shermann

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:51, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Hank Shermann (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name. The Banner talk 22:09, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nominator. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:28, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
delete, not enough core links for any individual band/project. Frietjes (talk) 15:48, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Snowy Shaw

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The result of the discussion was move to Dream Evil, since that's the band with more links, and it would not be possible to split the template history in two. Feel free to create the other template if there are enough notable links. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:50, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Snowy Shaw (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name. The Banner talk 22:08, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

split into Template:Memento Mori (band) and Template:Dream Evil. Frietjes (talk) 23:29, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Satariel

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The result of the discussion was relisted on Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 June 11. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:00, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Sammy Siegler

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:47, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Sammy Siegler (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name The Banner talk 22:06, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:31, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Guilty Simpson

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Guilty Simpson (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN The Banner talk 22:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. It has only 4 core links (plus the head article), so it fails WP:NENAN's minimum of 5 core links + head article.
The head article should of course be incorporated in a navbox if one exists, but it is no reason to justify the creation of a navbox. The head article is always prominently linked from the article anyway, so a navbox is not needed to get to it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:32, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Tim Sköld

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The result of the discussion was relisting on Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 June 11. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:03, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Skritch

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:54, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Skritch (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN The Banner talk 22:00, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, not enough core links. Frietjes (talk) 23:27, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It has only 4 core links (plus the head article), so it fails WP:NENAN's minimum of 5 core links + head article.
The head article should of course be incorporated in a navbox if one exists, but it is no reason to justify the creation of a navbox. The head article is always prominently linked from the article anyway, so a navbox is not needed to get to it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:31, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Percy Sledge

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The result of the discussion was keep Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:24, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Percy Sledge (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Amazing enough, fails WP:NENAN, as only 4 works have their own articles. The Banner talk 21:57, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

keep, has five total links, which is enough. Frietjes (talk) 23:26, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The backlink is usually not counted as relevant link. The Banner talk 23:30, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - It's the most relevant link, so I count it. Frietjes (talk) 23:37, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - Don't get surprised when people don't buy this. Or do you have some Jax-emergency-creations to add? The Banner talk 23:44, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      - don't worry, I'm never surprised when the nominator attacks me for disagreeing or having an independent opinion. Frietjes (talk) 15:51, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It has only 4 core links (plus the head article), so it fails WP:NENAN's minimum of 5 core links + head article.
The head article should of course be incorporated in a navbox if one exists, but it is no reason to justify the creation of a navbox. The head article is always prominently linked from the article anyway, so a navobox is not needed to get to it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:30, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I added an album (there are many more without articles), so that should address the link count. Frietjes (talk) 16:14, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Slug

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:27, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Slug (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name The Banner talk 21:54, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete not about slug -- 70.24.245.196 (talk) 05:50, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No core links. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:17, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Sam Sneed

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:30, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Sam Sneed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN The Banner talk 21:54, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, not enough core links. Frietjes (talk) 23:25, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It has only 3 core links (plus the head article), so it fails WP:NENAN's minimum of 5 core links + head article.
The head article should of course be incorporated in a navbox if one exists, but it is no reason to justify the creation of a navbox. The head article is always prominently linked from the article anyway, so a navbox is not needed to get to it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:18, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Ninja Tune

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The result of the discussion was move Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:27, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Ninja Tune (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unclear affair about a record label. No clue what the author intends with this nav box. The Banner talk 21:40, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The connection between these items is too loose to justify a navbox. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:35, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
reformat as Template:Solid Steel. Frietjes (talk) 16:56, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Sotajumala

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The result of the discussion was keep Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:22, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Sotajumala (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN The Banner talk 21:37, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

keep, has four albums, which is enough. Frietjes (talk) 23:24, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It has only 4 core links (plus the head article), so it fails WP:NENAN's minimum of 5 core links + head article.
The head article should of course be incorporated in a navbox if one exists, but it is no reason to justify the creation of a navbox. The head article is always prominently linked from the article anyway, so a navobox is not needed to get to it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:08, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I added an album, so we now have five album links. Frietjes (talk) 16:30, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Jeff Scott Soto

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The result of the discussion was move Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:59, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Jeff Scott Soto (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Not enough work on his own name The Banner talk 21:36, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

reformat as Template:Takara (band) Frietjes (talk) 23:23, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Even if reformatted as suggested by Frietjes, it would still have only 4 core links (plus the head article), so it fails WP:NENAN's minimum of 5 core links + head article.
The head article should of course be incorporated in a navbox if one exists, but it is no reason to justify the creation of a navbox. The head article is always prominently linked from the article anyway, so a navbox is not needed to get to it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:29, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- checking Takara (band)#Discography, we would have more than four. Frietjes (talk) 16:32, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Spitalfield

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The result of the discussion was relisted on Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 June 11. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:56, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Alvin Stardust

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The result of the discussion was no consensus, appears the template was expanded. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:53, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Alvin Stardust (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN The Banner talk 21:26, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. It has only 3 core links (plus the head article), so it fails WP:NENAN's minimum of 5 core links + head article.
The head article should of course be incorporated in a navbox if one exists, but it is no reason to justify the creation of a navbox. The head article is always prominently linked from the article anyway, so a navbox is not needed to get to it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:23, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:The Steal

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:52, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NENAN The Banner talk 21:24, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. It has only 4 core links (plus the head article), so it fails WP:NENAN's minimum of 5 core links + head article.
The head article should of course be incorporated in a navbox if one exists, but it is no reason to justify the creation of a navbox. The head article is always prominently linked from the article anyway, so a navbox is not needed to get to it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:20, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Jürgen Steinmetz

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:45, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Jürgen Steinmetz (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN The Banner talk 21:23, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, redundant to Template:Sons of Seasons. Frietjes (talk) 23:19, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and per Frietjes. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:40, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Jamie Stewart

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The result of the discussion was move, as it appears this will make five links. Feel free to renominate if this is not the case. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:06, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Jamie Stewart (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name. The Banner talk 21:18, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

reformat as Template:Ten in the Swear Jar. Frietjes (talk) 23:18, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom; no core links. Even if reformatted as suggested by Frietjes, it would still have only 4 core links (plus the head article), so it fails WP:NENAN's minimum of 5 core links + head article.
The head article should of course be incorporated in a navbox if one exists, but it is no reason to justify the creation of a navbox. The head article is always prominently linked from the article anyway, so a navbox is not needed to get to it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:27, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- seems we are counting the band members in the core links, so four albums plus two band members would be six core links for a reformatted navbox. Frietjes (talk) 18:54, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Peter Stjärnvind

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:40, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Peter Stjärnvind (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name. The Banner talk 21:16, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, even if it were reformatted as Template:Murder Squad, it would not have enough core links. Frietjes (talk) 23:16, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nominator. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:21, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Jaguares de Chiapas squad

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The result of the discussion was relisted on Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 June 11. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:51, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:El Marg SC

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:36, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:El Marg SC (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Not a useful navbox. Four of the links just link to the teams main wp article. The Other Teams listing only includes links to teams that would generally be considered non notable. The stadium link and media link are of questionable notability. I do not think the club is at a high enough level to ever warrant season articles and the other sports links link to the sports themselves not anything to do with the club. Fenix down (talk) 11:27, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - serves no purpose as a navigation box. Giant Snowman 11:40, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - does not provide useful navigation between related articles. Mentoz86 (talk) 13:36, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:El Marg SC squad

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:35, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:El Marg SC squad (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Not actually a nav box. Contains no links at all. Given low level of team involved it is unlikely any players could have their own article therefore unlikely it could ever be useful. Fenix down (talk) 11:22, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - serves no purpose as a navigation box. Giant Snowman 11:40, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
delete, no links. Frietjes (talk) 15:17, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - does not provide useful navigation between related articles. Mentoz86 (talk) 13:37, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:PRChina-company-stub

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The result of the discussion was no consensus, and as pointed out below, stubs are discussed at WP:CFD. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:33, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:China-company-stub (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:PRChina-company-stub with Template:China-company-stub.
Merge into more widely used Template:China-company-stub. No other stub template uses the PRChina qualifier. LukeSurl^{t c} 10:44, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

see Wikipedia:TFD#What not to propose for discussion here. Frietjes (talk) 19:58, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Pakistan Navy

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:29, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Pakistan Navy (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template that used to be transcluded to one article, now included. Ohc ^¡digame!_{¿que pasa?} 07:46, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete, now that it has been merged with the article. Frietjes (talk) 15:10, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Austria squad 2010 UEFA European Under-19 Football Championship

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:07, 12 June 2013 (UTC). The consensus from several recent discussions (and here) is that participation in a youth squad is not a sufficiently notable attribute to be linked through a navbox. Older discussions have concluded that youth squad navigational boxes are useful, but the more recent consensus is that they should be deleted. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:19, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete template and similar at youth level per this deletion discussion and this one and this one, which established that youth teams in international tournaments should not have navboxes. C 679 06:19, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep the FIFA navboxes and delete all others. Kingjeff (talk) 06:54, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all - previous consensus across numerous dsicussions is very clear, all fotball youth tournament squad templates are considered non-notable. Giant Snowman 08:18, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep every nav-box that meets WP:NAVBOX. I was hoping that we could discuss which of these that actually met WP:NAVBOX, instead of listing a gazillion nav-boxes in one discussion and saying that "every squad-template" should be deleted Here is a discussion where there was a pretty clear consensus to keep all under-21 templates, and I doubt the Olympic project would want us to delete their under-23 templates. The Yugoslavian u-21 template from 1984 was deleted because it failed WP:NAVBOX #2-4, not because every youth squad-template fails WP:NAVBOX #2-4. Mentoz86 (talk) 08:53, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody is proposing to delete Olympic templates, and they are not considered 'youth' anyway. The discussion you have linked two is from over 18 months ago, consensus changes, and it has changed in this case. There have been numerous subsequent discussions about youth templates where consensus has been to 'delete' - see, for example this discussion from just last week. Giant Snowman 08:57, 3 June 2013 (UTC) Giant Snowman 08:55, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There are no Olympic or under-21 templates up for discussion here, so I don't see how the previous discussion from 18 months ago is relevant. Clearly linked in the nomination are three recent deletion discussions where consensus is not to have such templates at youth level. C 679 12:26, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In the second discussion, there was one recent discussion with such a consensus, and in the third discussion there was two recent discussion with such a consensus, etc... There are no Olympic or under-21 templates up for discussion here, but when those will be discussed in one and two weeks we will have four and five discussions respectively, where consensus is not to have such templates at youth level, if no-one objects here, wouldn't we? ;) And no, under-23 is not senior-level just like under-21 and under-19 isn't. I'm not saying we shouldn't delete the vast majority of these navboxes, I'm just saying that we should assess and find those that are worth keeping despite being youth-squad templates, instead of simply deleting all. I don't see the point in deleting navboxes where the majority of players listed in the navbox will have their only navbox deleted,(WP:A navbox on every page) and the tournament in question in mentioned in the article (which means most of the criteria in WP:NAVBOX checks out). Mentoz86 (talk) 14:12, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mentoz, if it eases your mind, I will !vote 'keep' should any Olympics squad templates be brought to TFD, and I very much doubt they will anyway. Do not be blinded by the fact that modern football Olympic squads have been U23, historically they were senior teams and are still considered as such - or, to look at it another way, they are squad templates for a senior competition, are they not? Giant Snowman 14:19, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all per consensus for youth (to me U20 is youth, Olympic and U21 is arbitrary, for example US and Korea Olympic team may still amateur/semi-pro (NCAA and university team) Matthew_hk t c 09:27, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
delete all, per prior consensus. Frietjes (talk) 15:09, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep These navboxes are useful for facilitating understanding and providing detailed context of the history of football/soccer throughout the world as well as individual player development. See also: WP:TFD#REASONS Hmlarson (talk) 18:53, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:TFD#REASONS says any template may be deleted by consensus, which is already evident in the linked previous discussions. The "detailed context of the history" is facilitated by the squad list articles which are linked from the parent tournaments - and a "delete all" would not result in a loss of such history. C 679 12:38, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all Templates should not exist since they are youth teams not senior teams. GoPurple 'n Gold₂₄ 20:39, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all Long standing consensus that we should not have templates for non-senior squads, as players in these squads are not automatically notable for playing in these tournaments, and redlinks only serves to encourage inappropriate article creation. Number 5 7 13:00, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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