Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Pure Heroine

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Pure Heroine

The filing party (the editor who opened this request) will add the basic details for this dispute below.

Editors involved in this dispute

1. Fruitloop11 (talk · contribs) – filing party
2. Andrzejbanas (talk · contribs)
3. Helptottt (talk · contribs)
4. Adabow (talk · contribs)

Articles affected by this dispute

1. Pure Heroine (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Other attempts at resolving this dispute that you have attempted

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pure_Heroine
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Andrzejbanas&diff=592759707&oldid=592564098

Issues to be mediated

What is this dispute about? What sections, sentences, or issues in the article(s) can you not agree on? If you are the editor who opened this request, list these issues to be mediated under "Primary issues". If you did not open this request, you can add additional issues to be mediated under "Additional issues". The issues to be mediated would be properly agreed upon later, if this request for mediation is accepted.

Primary issues (added by the filing party)

The issuse with the Pure Heroine article is rather or not it should be tagged simply as pop or another genre such as Art pop. The main problem is Andrzejbana keeps insisting that his source (orginally used to source art pop) concluded that the album is only pop.

I disagree for one because pop is too vague and simplistic, another user agreed that having the album only listed as pop is too simplistic. I tried to compramise with the user by suggesting that we remove the genre from the infobox kind of like on Tennis Court (song) he didn't respond directly to what I suggested. Instead he told me to comment on his discussion(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Music#Genre_in_the_infobox). The user has given me the impression, based on his responses, that no matter what source I add he will remove it cause only his sources are reliable.

Mediation, I ask you to help me or us come to a resolution, so there will be no more arguing over who's right or wrong.

Additional issues (added by other parties)

I agree with Fruitloop, there needs to be a more specific description, at least two subgenres or fusion genres of pop/or some other genre of music should be listed in the infobox. --Helptottt (talk) 02:54, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

The thing is, we don't even have two genres. The article in question refers to the artist as a "art pop artist" but the album is labeled as a "pop album". If we do what you suggested, we are going against what the source says, which is against several rules I don't think I need to list here. Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:12, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

• Additional issue 2

Parties' agreement to mediation

If you are a named party, please sign below and indicate whether you agree or refuse to participate in mediation. Remember that all editors are obliged to resolve disputes about content through discussion, mediation, or other similar means. If you do not wish to participate in mediation, you must arrange another form of dispute resolution. Comments and questions should be made underneath the numbered list below, to avoid confusion.

1. Agree. Fruitloop11 (talk) 01:01, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
2. Agree. Helptottt (talk) 02:54, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
3. Agree. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:48, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
4. Agree. Adabow (talk) 20:13, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Decision of the Mediation Committee

This section should only be edited by a mediator. The Mediation Committee's representative will indicate in due course whether the request is accepted (meaning a mediator will be assigned) or rejected (meaning you will have to try a different type of dispute resolution). If the mediator asks you a question in this section, you may edit here.

We are still awaiting the agreement of two of the parties to participate in the mediation. Reminders have been given on their respective talk pages. Sunray (talk) 16:43, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

• Accept. Mediator to be assigned. For the mediation committee Sunray (talk) 07:31, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
• Mediator assigned. Hello! I'm Tristessa, your friendly neighbourhood mediator, who will be helping you out with this case. There's nothing scary or difficult about this; I reckon we should be able to sort this out pretty quickly. Let's get down to it. --Tristessa (talk) 21:04, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
• Left nudge talk page messages as I've received no replies from the parties since my message on 23:19, 26 May 2014. If this case is inactive, could the parties please inform me of this? --Tristessa (talk) 02:38, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
• Confirmed still active. --Tristessa (talk) 19:56, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
• Discussion is now taking place on Talk:Pure Heroine regarding an article text compromise; waiting for response. --Tristessa (talk) 16:20, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Mediation

Please find the mediation discussion for this article at:

Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/Pure Heroine

Would all mediation parties please read my most recent comments there, and reply at their convenience? Thank you! Your friendly neighbourhood mediator, --Tristessa (talk) 01:56, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.