Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/August 2005

indent in the capslock key

Why is there a indent in the capslock key? you fink ur nang ohhh ok den w.e cummon bring it ehem

I not know, but speculate it may be related to assisting people who are blind and totally touch type. AlMac|^(talk) 04:15, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Or who can see, but take seriously the fact that you are not supposed to look at the keyboard when you touchtype... 05:50, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

This was my first thought too, but touch-typing assistance is usually limited to bumps on the 'f' and 'j' (or 'd' and 'k') keys. I think the indentation on my caps lock key is to keep it separated from the 'a' key so that it's not so easy to hit the caps lock accidentally. I'm not sure if this is what the original poster was referring to, though, since keyboards vary in details like this. --Zeborah 11:32, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't have any indent on my capslock. PS those "bumps" are called the 'home keys' (F,J and NUM5). =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:05, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

I've always used 'home keys' refer to all the keys your fingers rest on when typing 'properly', ie asdfjkl; - the first site I googled uses this definition. --Zeborah 00:37, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

asdf-jkl; is "home row," and f and j (or d and k on old-school Mac keyboards… took me forever to get used to it when they switched) are the "braille keys." At least, that's how I learned it. As for the indent in the caps-lock key, perhaps the OP is referring to how some keyboards have caps-lock keys that are "flat" for about half a centimeter on the right side, before the key rises up to normal height. I also believe it's to reduce headaches from accidentally pressing it. Garrett Albright 02:19, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, many typewriters had a CAPS LOCK key and a separate key to release CAPS LOCK. Can't remember the shapes exactly - maybe one was shaped like a backwards "L" and the other was much smaller and sort of fit in the 'pocket' of the L. ike9898 00:24, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

The way I remember it was that the shift and caps lock were situated much the same as on a computer keyboard, but you had to hold down the shift key and then press the lock key to mechanically hold the... the... whatever-you-call-it in the shifted position. Now hitting caps lock alone both puts it into shift and locks it there. I remember, as a boy, it was quite a bit of effort to lift it into shift with anything other than the index finger and locking it with the same hand something of a minor victory. --bodnotbod 21:04, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

Da Vinci Code Filimg at Rosslyn Chapel, Scotland

We will be in Edinburgh in September. We understand that Ron Howard will be filming at the Chapel in September. Do you happen to know the dates of the filming in Scotland?

Thank you,

Abernathy's Texas--12.147.148.195 05:21, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

• I don't, but I would expect the local tourist organization knows more. - Mgm|^(talk) 06:33, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

Photos and copyright

I was wondering, if you were to take a photo of a copyrighted photo, who would then own the rights to the photo you have take? And does it depend on things like how much of that original photo is visible in your one? Thank you, Akamad 08:45, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

Well, if it's a clear and non-creative representation of the original copyrighted photo, then your photo would be a breach of copyright... Notinasnaid 13:24, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

If a substantial portion of the old picture is used, even creatively, and clearly or unclearly, it is a copyright infringement. The best you can hope for is fair use in the US. Superm401 | Talk 21:15, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

Your photograph is a derivative work of the original. You hold the copyright to whatever original input you have in your new photograph, but still need permission from the original copyright holder to do stuff with it. -- Cyrius|✎ 20:37, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Derivative Software Copyrights

There is a concept in programming, of derivative software in which we write a program, but copy chunks of code to do various standard things, from other programs, which may be copyrighted. Suppose I write a 100,000 line program, and use only 10 lines of code that are copyrighted ... the copyright on the microscopic addition applies to the whole result, because I used ANY copyrighted material in crafting my new program (actuallty my employer's because the program is the property of who is paying for the work to be done, unless there is a contract to the contrary).

Suppose in crafting the new program, I use chunks of code from several prior programs that have DIFFERENT copyrights ... ALL of them now belong in the copyright statements of the new program.

The reason it is important to keep track of this ... my employer has a contract with some supplier of software that gives us permission to use their source code in the development of our internal other programs, but let's suppose future management decides to end that contract, quit paying annual fees to maintain it ... that means that we have lost permission to use that source code ... we have to find all programs we used that code in, and stop using those programs, because they contain source code, whose right to use it in a derivative matter, has now expired.

Different rules apply to different kinds of copyrightable material, so this derivative rule for software might not apply to photographs, music, other intellectual property.

AlMac|^(talk) 23:18, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

If you look at the copyright notices for large programs that have evolved over time, like various Unix flavours, you will usually see that there is a whole list of "Portions copyright...." which is how they acknowledge the bits they have used. If you wanted to use a chunk that was really only ten lines or so you would be better to rewrite it. IANAL, but if you rewrite code yourself, even if it does exactly the same as the original, you are not violating copyright. DJ Clayworth 23:43, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Upper Nile University Sudan

What is the actual contact address of the "Upper Nile University" in Sudan? Will that be in Karthoum or Malakal?

According to this website among others it is PO Box 1660 in Khartoum, and the phone number +249 (11) 222 174. A Yahoo Groups message suggests that the university moved to Khartoum during the civil war, and that in 2004 plans were announced for it to move back to Malakal, but I'd imagine this move back would take some time and so the university is probably still at this address. --Zeborah 11:20, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Jeff Foxworthy

I am looking for an email address for Jeff Foxworthy. I have "redneck wedding" pictures that someone sent me I thought he may like. Thanks.

You could try addresses.com or Yahoo people search -- each have several different possibilities though it's possible that none of these will be the one you're looking for. Good luck! --Zeborah 11:44, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

You could also try writing to his management. They may forward them on to him. Dismas 13:32, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

In response to the comment you left on my talk page (in case you don't go back there but do come here)... Well, I'd try going to his web site first of all. Then scroll all the way down and follow the link for the web designer. Ask them if they have some contact info for J.F.'s management and go from there. Dismas 13:32, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Contact for Christian Clavier

dear wikipedia,

i'm a great fan of Michael Jackson. i've been looking for a long time just for a fanmailing of him. do you, wikipedia maby know how i can contact him? at least send him a email. i'm not a person who wants to know what's his phone number or such other stuff, but just a fanmailing. i would like to ask him something very important for me. please, could you help me? i hope for a request. many greetings Sanela

email: meluvchris@hotmail.com

There's no guarantee they'll pass it on to him, but you can mail his production company, Ouille Productions, at ouille2@wanadoo.fr Superm401 | Talk 21:11, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

famous pubs

I previously asked this question. What is the most famous pub? There's so many in the world, surely theres some world-famous ones --Wonderfool t(c) 23:55, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Why, the "Fool & Firkin at 2 Gasking Street in Plymouth of course. ;-) hydnjo talk 00:17, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

The Cheers pub in Boston could be considered one of the more famous pubs. Rentastrawberry 01:32, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

Cheers. Famous TV tourist trap - yes. Famous for other than popular entertainment: guess where I am - no. hydnjo talk 02:03, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

The oldest pubs tend to be famous if they brag about it. For example, the oldest pubs in england are either The Bell Inn (Nottingham), or The Old Trip To Jerusalem (Nottingham) depending on your definition of pub.

Similarly, anything used as a location in a work of literature, film, etc. will be famous. I don't know if you're counting fictional pubs such as the Prancing Pony*.

(* didn't I once see a List of fictional drinking establishments page which should be in Category:Lists of fictional things?)

• • The World's End in Edinburgh was briefly notorious after a spate of murders (the "World's End Murders" in 1977, recently solved), though I believe that was only nationally - I note the article is on the London pub of that name. We have a Category:British public houses, but most of the ones I can name aren't in there. Shimgray 13:40, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

It's hard enough to pick the most famous in any given city... -- Jmabel | Talk 22:22, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

• Very location-specific. The Wunderbar, the Greyhound, the Crossways, the White Hart, the Jack-O, etc. All pubs local to me; all "known" within the community for something. Perhaps one of the most famous (albeit fictional) pubs in the UK would be the Queen Vic from Eastenders; the Rover's Return from Coronation Street, etc. Rob Church ^{Talk | Desk} 01:25, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

• • I've recently added The Coach and Horses, Greek Street, Soho, London, but I think for worldwide recognition it would have to be the inn that played host to Jesus, Mary and Joseph when their housing benefit didn't come through. --bodnotbod 19:47, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

The Stag's Head in Dublin, Ireland is certainly up there. A favorite of James Joyce and a couple of hundred years old.

Tangentially relevant, see Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Bars and public houses regarding notability requirements for pubs. Bovlb 17:03:28, 2005-08-29 (UTC)

Wikisolution

Hello,

I was wondeing if Wiki will start a new project which will be similar to Google Answers.

It could have endless amount of problems with the solutions.

IE. How do you find the square root of something?

For example type in http://www.google.com which means call up Google and put "sqrt of 7" in the question box. And then magically you get the answer. I guess I don't get the question, hydnjo talk 03:57, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Then someone could answer it.

Is there any furtue for this type of project?

Wikipedia is first of all an online Encyclopedia. To the extent that someone has a question about a specific topic, our article will I think provide a comprehensive response. To the extent that an arbitrary question is posed, then we have Wikipedia:Ask a question to help the user that may have a question not addressed in our catalog of articles.

Google Answers is an excellent place to pose specific (out of the ordinary) questions that most likely wouldn't be addressed within an encyclopedia article (How do I know if my septic system is working?). These types of questions may also be posed at the Wikipedia:Reference desk (or as a shortcut: WP:RD). Both places will probably get you a satisfactory response although at the Wikipedia:Reference desk there is no cost for an answer.hydnjo talk 03:57, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Maybe he's asking if we could create technology like Google's that instantly answers questions automatically. If so, the answer is definitely not. However, the Reference Desk(this) is a great free substitute for Google Answers, IMHO. Superm401 | Talk 04:50, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

hut in the Melbourne Botanical Gardens

Does anyone know what this hut is? Like is it Captain Cook's Cottage? It was taken at the Royal Melbourne Botanical Gardens --Fir0002 05:23, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

It does look like Captain Cook's cottage, but that is in the Fitzroy Gardens, not the Royal Melbourne Botanical Gardens (unless it's been shifted again since I saw it in 1998).-gadfium 05:40, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Whatever it is, it looks far too new to have been used by Cook! At a guess, I'd say it is less than 30-40 years old - MPF 11:43, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

wanna help u!

hi i am from shiraz/iran! i would like to work with u to complete the infos on shiraz my city! contact me @ (email removed)

Welcome! Thanks for your offer of assistance; you don't need our permission, just go to the Shiraz, Iran page, click on the link that says "edit this page", and make any corrections and improvements you'd like to make to it, or indeed any other article. You may also be interested in the Persian language Wikipedia and the Arabic-language wikipedia. (NB: I have sent an email to our Iranian friend pointing him to this reply). --Robert Merkel 00:33, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

A Dam, A Rock, A City, but what's the name

I am trying to find a name of a dam and city in the US that share the name of a rock.

Plymouth? Plymouth rock. The city Plymouth. Results on yahoo show that there is a Plymouth Dam. I don't really understand your question, but I hope thats what your looking for. Rentastrawberry 03:30, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

How about Boulder? The dam is a bit better known. alteripse 03:34, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Yeah but the dam's name is Hoover Dam. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 04:04, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, but originally it was called Boulder Dam; Boulder_Dam#The_naming_controversy ¦ Reisio 04:20, 2005 August 22 (UTC)

Yeah, and Old New York was once New Amsterdam. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 05:14, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, and one time my sister and her friends dressed up like The Bangles and made a music video, but that's also completely irrelevant. ¦ Reisio 05:23, 2005 August 22 (UTC)

Why'd they change it? ;-) --Jack (Cuervo) 12:01, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Rock Island Dam? I tried :( K1Bond007 05:26, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

Want to be registered

I am a Namibian citizen and old Swapo support. However, I have realised my support, to be invisible hence I am not a registered member of Swapo.

Therefore, my question goes like, "How do I become a registered member of Swapo? I am not in Namiba now and I have been living in a marginalised village while home therefore.

I'm reachable at the following e-mail addresses. rkanime2001 at yahoo dot ca rubestov at yahoo dot com

Your kindly attention will be highly appreciated!!

• Sorry, this is not the website of SWAPO but of Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Apparently SWAPO does not have an operating website (though I would check on www.swapo.org again in the future), so we were the first google result. I suggest calling friends and family back in Namibia or talking to fellow Namibian expatriates in the country you're in now (presumably Canada) about registering with SWAPO.--Pharos 11:07, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Underground

(moved from article space - Mgm|^(talk) 10:32, August 22, 2005 (UTC))
i am looking in the unergroud of old sacamento,ca i have heard there is a undergound but not much is know any thing that is know would be good to know. - anon User:12.72.149.184

• Please be more specific. Do you mean an underground railway? I looked on www.urbanrail.net and www.lightrail.com, but could find nothing. Do you mean underground tunnels? Ground Zero 20:15, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

The streets of Sacramento were raised in the 1860s because of repeated flooding. Try http://www.newsreview.com/issues/sacto/2003-07-17/cover.asp. Zoe 23:44, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

bengals vs. broncos mnf 2004

Last night me and some people had a disagreement about the 2004 monday night football game bengals vs. broncos 2004. The issue was, when they came back from commercial they showed a local chili place called Camp Washington Chili. When they showed it John Madden said he loved Cincinnati style chili. The dispute over this is they say that the local area here is the only ones that seen this. Did the people of Denver see Camp Washington Chili on TV like we did?? Please let me know

Thanks,Chris

Without having any specific knowledge of that particular broadcast, I would say that the answer is no. It is unlikely that a local restaurant would pay the amount of money necessary for a national ad. What seems more likely is that since it was a Bengals game, that John Madden was watching the Cincinnati feed and so made the related comment. --CVaneg 19:07, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

It sounds like they showed the place as part of the ABC feed before returning to the game, in which case everybody saw it -- it's not an ad but rather a culture spot. There wouldn't be a Cincy or Denver TV feed for a nationally-broadcast game, anyway. — Lomn | Talk 19:23:35, 2005-08-23 (UTC)

company registerred in gibralter

can i get info on a company reg. no 52251 adress po box 847 gibralter

Write to them at PO Box 847, Gibralter? What information do you want? Trollderella 16:30, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

I'd recommend spelling it Gibraltar when you do. DJ Clayworth 16:54, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Tickets for sights in London

Is it possible to purchase tickets for 1. Buckingham Palace 2. Tower of London in Victoria Station? I have heard there is a shop for this right in Victoria Sta. Can you help? Regards Dave email DAVE5907@aol.com

Why not buy a ticket to Buckingham palace at the official Royal Collection site and for the Tower of London try calling (0171) 709 0765 (British dialing code is 44) Superm401 | Talk 21:13, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

Ye gods, it's years since we had 0171 numbers! That number maps to (020) 7709 0765 since London now has 8-digit local numbers. Buckingham Palace is only open in the summer when the Queen's away on holiday (only in August if I recall). The only other way in (other than hang-gliding or climbing the walls, which usually results in a quick exit) is to get invited to a Royal Garden Party, as I did in 1997 - no, I've no idea how you get invited, the invitation from the Lord Chancellor's Office just came in the post one Saturday morning.... -- Arwel 13:09, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Oooh, royalty in our midst, eh? Rob Church ^{Talk | Desk} 01:34, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

If you are a citizen of a Commonwealth country, contact your High Commission. I believe that they may be able to help get an invite to a Royal Garden Party. Ground Zero 13:26, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Edith Falls and other unknown places

Hello I would like to know where Edith Falls should go? Thank you. --Newsreporter 19:03, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Naming_conventions ¦ Reisio 23:06, 2005 August 22 (UTC)

Unknown

http://www.psu.edu/ur/about/oldom.jpg Hello what is this place? --Newsreporter 19:43, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

• If I may hazzard a guess its a farm somewhere in Pennsylvania since it is on a Penn State server. 68.83.229.146 22:11, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

• Clicking around in the folder that image is in finds some links and it appears much of it is about penn State history. Then this was linked to from one of those pages. It is the history of the Old Main building on what I assume is Penn State's campus. So your picture looks like farming around the unfinished old Old Main building sometime between 1856 and 1864. - Taxman ^Talk 22:46, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

Unknown

http://www.dreamlandscapes.com/space/space13.jpg Hello what is this? --Newsreporter 19:42, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Looks like a poorly managed piece of macadam to me. --bodnotbod 00:09, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

Unknown road

Hello what road is this http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/97489/2/Road_to_the_unknown.jpg? --Newsreporter 19:40, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Impossible to say with so little to go on. Could be almost anywhere, but reminds me of Switzerland. Shantavira 17:23, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Unknown location

Hello where is this? http://www.trailblazersww2.org/gettypics3/Unknown%20Location%201.jpg --Newsreporter 19:36, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

• With absolutely no proof and very limited memories of the city, it reminds me somewhat of Bristol. --Brasswatchman 06:04, August 23, 2005 (UTC)
• I'd concur that in some respects, it does look a little like Bristol, although of course, Bristol has been redeveloped so much that some of the older architecture is no longer there, making deduction and comparison like this tricky. I'll ponder this one for a while in the back of my head and get back to you if I have an answer. Rob Church ^{Talk | Desk} 01:37, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
• My contact in Bristol says it's not Bristol, but could be Llandudno. However, the pic comes from a site dedicated to World War II Campaigns in Central Europe so I think we're looking at Germany. Maybe ask on the German Wikipedia? Shantavira 08:00, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Bell of Silence

Hello does anyone know anything about this? --Newsreporter 19:24, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Did you mean the "Cone of Silence" of the comedy Get Smart? -- Toytoy 01:26, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

Serial Number Location on a Model T Ford Truck

Are you asking where you would find it, or what format they take, or what they mean, or who came up with them, or ... ? Proto t c 14:59, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Pedefiles

Do they abuse both male and female children, or do they choose one gender only?

• There is no simple answer. Some prefer one sex over the other, while others abuse children of both sexes. See Pedophilia. Ground Zero 21:52, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

• In exactly the same way as for adults who are attracted to other adults it depends on the individual - some are attracted to girls, some to boys and some to either. I cannot cite any sources for this, but I have a vague recollection of hearing somewhere that the proportion attracted to either gender is higher than the proportion of bisexual adults in the general population; if this correct or even if the study was scientifically rigourous and statistically significant I cannot say. For those attracted to both, I suspect that the 'availablity' (for what of a much better term) of the children has an impact on who they become involved with. See also the Paedophile article. Thryduulf 21:58, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

• I don't think it's a question of these paedophiles being "bisexual" as much as it is that they are attracted to "children" as children, and not as boys or girls. Ground Zero 22:03, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

I agree. Many people tend to confuse paedophilia with homosexuality. The fact that a particular paedophile is attracted to children of the same sex does not make them a homosexual. The fact that a particular paedophile is attracted to children of the opposite sex does not make them a heterosexual. The fact that a male adult is attracted to other male adults does not mean they have any sexual interest in little boys (or little girls for that matter), despite what some elements of popular culture and media-induced hype would often have us believe. Hetero-, homo- and bi- sexuality all relate to sexual activity or relationships between adults. Where the victim of an adult's sexual attention is a child, that is paedophilia, pure and simple. I am even tempted to say that the majority of paedophiles whose victims are the same sex are heterosexual rather than homosexual when it comes to their relationships with adults. That is just my belief and I have no evidence to back it up, but certainly media reports would tend to suggest this is the case. Cheers JackofOz 02:14, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

The Greek word "paedophilia" means "love of boys". Despite this, paedophiles can be attracted to boys, girls, or both. While most paedophiles are men, I'm sure female paedophiles exist. — JIP | Talk 18:49, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

• Arguably, see Mary Kay Letourneau. Ground Zero 18:55, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Not forgetting the fact that most paedophiles who are known to the public are those who act upon this desire by abusing children. I am sure there are many more paedophiles who have never abused in their life. It is a commonly held mistake that to be a paedophile is to abuse, and that paedophilia is a crime. --Oldak Quill 11:37, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

• • Hmm, that's true. Isn't paedophilia a sexual attraction to children? Some people may think such an attraction is wrong, but if we start punishing people based only on their thoughts (such as sexual attractions) we become an Orwellian totalitarian state. Child abuse, however, is a crime. I'm sure there are many paedophiles who never abuse children - who even can't stand the thought of actually abusing a child - but often fantasise about it. In theory, a person can abuse a child without being a paedophile, but I don't see why anyone would do that. — JIP | Talk 15:00, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia

We have an article on how to cite Wikipedia, and it seems likely that some people do. Are there some examples of books, papers or articles that cite Wikipedia? Radiant_>|< 14:03, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

There's Wikipedia:Wikipedia as an academic source. Frencheigh 14:18, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

• Excellent. Thanks. Radiant_>|< 14:25, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

NTB IN BENIN

You need to ask a question. See NTB and Benin perhaps? Dunc|☺ 15:15, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

I found the NTB article to be pretty uniformative, to be honest... but I would hazzard a guess that the user is looking for the application of negotiations to end non-tariff barriers to trade in agricultural produce for Benin, one of the major achievements of the Uruguay Round of the Agreement on Agriculture here is a start. Trollderella 16:47, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

InuYasha

In the wikipedia article on Inu Yasha, found at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuyasha

It states that there is an episode #168 available only in Japan.

The most popular/frequented websites on the Inu Yasha anime do not list or mention this episode, neither do the various fansub sites that have followed and translated the Inu Yasha anime.

Can I please have further information on this reference?

Thank you

Someone here might know but the better bet would be to ask on the talk page for that article, Talk:InuYasha. Dismas 21:26, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

General Hospital

Can anyone give me a plot synopsis of what's happened in the past week on General Hospital? I haven't been able to see the show due to my schedule. Hermione1980 20:42, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Soap Opera Central has recaps of several soap operas, including General Hospital. Chuck 21:47, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

PLEASE HELP!

I am writing a term paper on James D Watson and i would like his email address

The article James D. Watson says that he serves as chancellor of the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory in Cold Spring Harbor, New York. This link http://www.cshl.edu/ at the bottom of the article gives a contact link. hydnjo talk 00:54, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

What is Wikipedia's copyright date?

Please see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia (presuming that's what you're aiming at).--Pharos 01:40, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

But, I think it is also important to note that technically Wikipedia's contents are not copyrighted. The text and much of the other contents are released under the GNU Free Documentation License. ike9898 00:35, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

They most certainly are. You can't licence something unless it's copyrighted, and I certainly haven't agreed to give up the copyright on my edits. We merely licence it under the GFDL to allow others to reuse it. --fvw* 00:38, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Oops. You know, that makes sense now that I think of it. (I'll strike my comment to avoid spearding mis-information. ike9898 01:44, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

So to answer the original question, the copyright date on a Wikipedia article can be determined by looking at the page's history. Gentgeen 08:53, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

So, would it be correct to say that each version of a page is copyrighted on the date that it was created? ike9898 16:26, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Actually, I think it might be more correct to say that each individual edit is copyrighted on the day it was contributed.--Pharos 16:29, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Both are correct, I believe. The page as a whole is copyrighted as of its last edit. But some parts of the page have older copyrights. It might be easier to think of a song which samples another song (this is an example of a "derivative work," in copyright jargon). The new song is copyrighted as of its creation, even though it uses part of an older song. The older song still retains its older copyright date; and if you separate out the sample from the rest of the newer song, that bit has the older copyright date. The important thing to keep in mind here is that there is copyright both on the whole and on various part of the whole, and the copyright date on the whole is not necessarily the same as the date on a specific part of it. Essentially, each version of a Wikipedia page is a derivative work of previous versions. Chuck 20:37, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Just as a note, websites usually give date ranges when expressing variable copyright dates. You could probably say that Wikipedia as whole is copyright 2001-2005, at the moment, though because it is licensed under the GFDL that means something quite different than most copyright statements. --Fastfission 19:18, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

beggarman, thief (1979)

Hello, Do you know where I can purchase a video of the mini-series Beggarman, Thief (1979)? thank you,

• I think you actually mean Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy of the same year. Hopefully you'll find it easier to buy now (especially with shopping links on the right hand side of that IMDB page). --bodnotbod 19:05, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
  • Beggarman, Thief is the sequel miniseries to Rich Man, Poor Man, but there is no listing for it at amazon, so I imagine it isn't released on video. Zoe 22:29, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

How to determine if a book is first edition or first printing

How would you determine if a book was first edition or first printing? Does it mean anything if there is not an ISBN # on the book? Are Book Club Editions thought to be worth less or are they altered in any way from a "normal" publication? What is a "remainder mark?" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_publishing Thanks for any help. Barbara Guest

• Usually stuff like the book's edition are mentioned on one of the first few pages together with it's copyright notice. Each seperate edition needs a new ISBN, so if you could establish one it would help. Maybe the book doesn't have an ISBN because it's self-published. I could try to find out more if I knew the title. - 131.211.210.12 13:27, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
  • If the book is old it might not have an ISBN number. Ornil 14:17, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

First editions are generally those which do not mention on their imprint page any other editions or reprintings. Book Club editions are generally worth less than original editions as they are mass produced and sold direct to the consumer. Since they are new editions they might well be altered in some way; they might even be completely resigned and re-set. Books without an ISBN are those published before about 1970, or for private circulation, or self-published by someone who does not understand the ISBN system. A remainder mark is any mark, on the outside of book, used by the publisher to show that the book has been withdrawn for the normal markets and that the remaining stock has been sold off cheaply to a remainder specialist. Shantavira 14:30, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Since books don't necessarily tell you whether they are first editions, try searching a large antique book seller like http://www.abebooks.com/. See if they list a first edition of your book. See if it matches your book in every respect. If so you probably have a first. Notinasnaid 17:47, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

• I was under the impression that the edition numbers in the front page counted down sequentially to 1 if the item was a first edition. Some newer titles also specify "First Edition." As an example, I've a book near me which counts "10 9 8 7 6 5 4" indicating a fourth edition. Rob Church ^{Talk | Desk} 01:47, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
  • I think, but am not sure, that those numbers may actually be printings rather than editions. If a book actually says "first edition" on the copyright page, it almost surely is one. but many books never use this wording. DES ^(talk) 00:47, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Yes, those numbers are (re)printings. Shantavira 08:02, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

english bank notes

Can you tell us which denomination of bank note did the Bank of England introduce in 1752 and withdraw in 1945.

<contact removed>

• I can't answer your question, but our article on British banknotes provides some clues. Warofdreams 13:57, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm assuming that this is a quiz question. If I recall correctly all denominations above £5 were withdrawn in 1945 to counter the forgeries produced by Operation Bernhardt. Question is what was introduced in 1752? I would guess the tenner. Jooler 01:38, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

As our article says that the tenner was introduced for the first time in 1793, and the fiver was a product of the Napoleonic Wars, and the smallest note issued during the Seven Years War was the £20, I'd guess it was the 20. Everything over £5 was withdrawn because of Operation Bernhard. -- Arwel 10:20, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

submarines of the world

According to a NY Times article about the recent distressed Russian submarine, 38 countries currently have submarines. Do you all know which countries?

thanks, Richard

our article on List of submarine classes lists:

1. Australia
2. Canada
3. France
4. Germany
5. Italy
6. Japan
7. Netherlands
8. Singapore
9. Soviet Union / Russia
10. United Kingdom

    the Category:Submarines by country also inlcudes

11. Norway
12. Turkey
13. Peoples Republic of China

    Other countries can be inferred from separate articles

14. Poland (ORP Orzeł)
15. Finland (Vesikko)
16. Pakistan (PNS Hangor)

Although that doens't get to 38. Thryduulf 16:13, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

17. The United States Navy has the odd submarine or 10. -- ALoan (Talk) 17:03, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

18. Denmark (HDMS Sælen (S323))

Also this from [Jane's http://www.janes.com/regional_news/europe/news_briefs/jdw990602_04.shtml] about Danish submarines surving military budget cuts. AlMac|^(talk) 07:28, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

19. Argentina (ARA San Luis) -- ALoan (Talk) 17:07, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

From a Google search, 20

20 Israel,

21. Sweden (HMS Gotland (Gtd)),

22. India,

plus from here ,

23. Greece,

24. Iran,

25. Indonesia,

26. North Korea,

27. Malaysia,

28. South Africa,

29. Taiwan,

Query Spain and Portugal.

Does anyone have a copy of Jane's submarines? -- ALoan (Talk) 17:22, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Also

30. Ukraine [1]

31. Spain [2]

Holland [3] [Holland is the Netherlands!]

32. Portugal [4]

DJ Clayworth 18:18, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

33. South Korea -- ALoan (Talk) 19:16, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

From hazegray.org...

34 - Bulgaria (1 ex-Soviet) [5]

35 - Croatia (1 "ex-Yugoslav midget") [6]

36 - Romania (1, inoperable) [7]

37 - Yugoslavia (1) [8], though this dates to 2001 so presumably Serbia/Montenegro now.

38 - Colombia (4) [9]

39 - Brazil (4, 1 building) [10]

40 - Venezuela (2) [11]'

41 - Peru (4, 2 reserve) [12]

42 - Chile (3, 2 building) [13]

43 - Ecuador (2) [http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/americas/ecuador.htm

44 - Egypt (4) [14]

45 - Algeria (2) [15]

It also looks like Cuba may have had subs, now derelict. Note we're past 38 - some of these may have recently been paid off/scrapped, or are too small / sufficiently inoperable to not be included in the counts. I think I culled all the duplicates, though. Shimgray 22:47, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

A key source is [Jane's http://www.janes.com/]. AlMac|^(talk) 07:25, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Who is that Jane person, anyway? — JIP | Talk 15:24, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Often wondered that myself. John F.T. Jane, apparently. Shimgray 15:28, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

I've now made the an article with this information, see List of countries with submarines. Thryduulf 12:37, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

where in the hell can i purchase group x's albums?

hey up everybody, i wanna get stepping on the crowetch owf your americain presidaint, (by group x) but, i cant find anywhere that supplies this c.d that can send it out to either the u.k or spain, just what can i do?! please help!

magie mai

This delightful question by 81.47.71.21. hydnjo talk 21:38, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

The Group X article has a link to their website which has a section for buying exactly what you want: http://www.groupxarab.com/buy.html ¦ Reisio 22:59, 2005 August 24 (UTC)

Subsidiary vs. Joint Venture

To whom it may concern:

I am writing a case study for a foreign enterprise [ABC Co.] that set up an equity joint venture with a local company here in Shanghai, China [ABC (Shanghai) Co., Ltd.]. I would like to know if it is correct to call ABC (Shanghai) Co., Ltd. a subsidiary of ABC Co. (the mother company) even if its not a wholly owned subsidiary but a joint venture with a local chinese company. The equity share is 70% foreign, 30% local.

I appreciate your kind help.

A Wikipedia member Lui Dacera

P.S. I am extremely thankful of this website. I am hoping that I can contribute some contents as soon as I get some free time. Thank you again.

It would be correct to call it a subsidiary, albeit always with the caveat "not wholly owned". Easier, then, to call it a joint venture or joint venture subsidiary, since this immedialy conveys a full picture. --Tagishsimon (talk)

NEW YORK AREA

Could you please let me kmow if any part or district of South Shields was known as New York. I have an address 1 Coronation St New York 1907., but very much doubt if this refers to America. regards Robert

• You are likely looking for New York, Tyne and Wear, part of North Tyneside near North Shields. There is also a "New York" in Lincolnshire in East Lindsey. These places are not historical; they still exist today.--Pharos 10:20, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Pain management

Would you kindly let me know if there is any reference material on the 'best practice' relating to the British Medical Association on pain management and the use of drug treatment. How for instance do they avoid drug dependance or excessive use of the same drug i.e opiods or similar drugs that can lose effivacy or through excessive use, body tolerence, or addiction. i am particulalry interested in paracetomol/codine preparations. Prescribed or over the counter.

I hope this makes sense.

i much appreciate your time.

Steve Manning

steve manningandco co uk

Hi Steve. You may find this article interesting Addiction warning for painkillers - the BMA do not have a Best Practice guideline for pain management, but there a few links on the right of this BBC article that may help you. Proto t c 11:16, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

WD & HO Wells

Hello there,

I was just wondering if you might have any information on collectable items around the time of Queeen Victoria for the above mentioned Tobacco company formed in 1876?

Thank you for yor time Chris Evans

• Suggest you try searching for "Wills cigarette cards" or whatever on www.google.co.uk (note Wills not Wells), which will help you identify them, and a search on eBay will give you some idea of their value. Shantavira 14:00, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Pop out side menus

How do you create pop out side menus for a website similar to these? Is there a nice little java script or a program which will generate the necessary code? --Fir0002 10:41, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/example/vertical.html
http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/ ¦ Reisio 13:46, 2005 August 24 (UTC)

That's exactly what I wanted, but I don't know much about html, and I can't follow the steps laid out in that second link. Could someone with more skills tell me exactly what I'd put into a cell (I'm using Frontpage with the td tags) for the drop down menu to work? the text is obvioulsy irrelevant as I can at least find and replace that! --Fir0002 12:12, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

I'm using Frontpage with the td tags - that's bad on both counts. FrontPage creates terrible code and table cells (<td>'s) should not be used for layout. If you can provide an image of what you want or the website as it exists now, though, I can provide explicit instructions. ¦ Reisio 19:16, 2005 August 25 (UTC)

Ok, this is the basic layout of the page (I'll probably be making some changes to the banner though) Along the left blue bar is where I want the pop out menus. There needs to be about six inital choices on the menu: accomodation, shopping food and services, events listing, historic places, gallery and links. In accomodation there has to be three more options: Motels, Bed & Breakfast, Hotels and Hotel Units, Farmhouse or Groups, and Caravan Parks. Then in each of those groups there will be some more options (if you could maybe just put item 1 etc to about 10? I think I should be able to catch on!)

I'll also want to put some more options to food and services but I haven't decided yet. If I can't catch on to what you've done with the rest I'll ask you then

Thanks so much for your help!!! --Fir0002 06:27, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Bob Mackie Barbie Empress Bride

In speaking with several individuals the question that repeatedly comes up is why do some of the Bob Mackie Empress Bride Barbies have a certificate of authenticity and others don't? Some of us think that the original first grouping that saturated the market did not have the certificates. Is it possible that this logic is correct? Please help us solve this mystery question. Thanks so much for your time and effort. Teri O.

• Could it simply be that they're not authentic? There are lots of counterfeit Barbies on the market. Suggest you compare the quality. Shantavira 14:08, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

• • Why is that particular Barbie so valuable anyway? Were only 100 produced or something? Are only the clothes unique, or are there some unique aspects to the doll mold itself? — JIP | Talk 20:58, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Heinrich Schulz-beuthen

Hello, I'm researching my family tree. My grandfather Heinrich Schulz-Beuthen (1838-1915) was a music composer in Germany. I would like to find records about his family. Are there couthouses that would have the information? Where else could I look? There was a book written about his life, how would I find it? He dide in a sanatarium in Lobtau Germany in 1915. Are ther any records of this hospital? I think his family died during the dreden bombing. Are there records of deaths in the city from that time? Is there a cemetary in Dreden that might have graves of ancestors? I would greatly appreicate any help or suggestions from you. Debbie

A biography was published quite recently in German: Heinrich Schulz-Beuthen. Eine biographische Skizze. Hg. von Cris Walton. Zürich: Hug & Co. 2003. ISBN 3905075105 [16] (At the bottom of this page there is a picture of your grandfather and some text in his handwriting, but maybe you saw that already.) David Sneek 17:04, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Finding Current Population Statistics

Hello!

I am trying to find out the current population of my town, Robbinsville, New Jersey officially known as Washington Township, New Jersey. This is the Washington Township in Mercer county. I did a search and found your website to be the most promising as I was able to find out the population as of the last census in 2000. Is there any way that you know of to find the current population as of 2005? I know the town has grown a lot in the past few years and I would just like to know what our population currently is. I would appreciate you pointing me in the right direction if you do not have the answer.

Thanks!

Sandy Neumann

Ask your local library. There's unlikely to be formal statistics, as these are usually only collected during ten-yearly censuses, but the local council, or state government, or chamber of commerce, or somebody may well have made more recent estimates - the library should be able to give you an idea who to ask. If they can't help, I'd contact the town council [17] or county governing body [18]. Shimgray 15:19, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Here's the U.S. Census page on your town. While the population was 10,275 in 2000 the population was estimated to be 11,445 in 2004, which makes about an 11.4% increase over just four years, so I would say the town is growing quickly.--Pharos 15:47, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

gasoline revenues?

I am wondering whether the rising gasoline prices at the pump reflect any increase in the federal or state tax on gasoline and if so where can one find info on $ amounts collected by the federal government in the gasoline tax?

Thanks

f.rossi (at) sbcglobal.net

• That will depend on the structure of gasoline taxes in your country. Some government impose taxes as a percentage of the cost of gasoline, e.g., 10% of the wholesale price. In this case, a rise in the wholesale price of gasoline increases government revenues. In other cases, the tax is levied at a fixed rate, e.g., 12 cents per litre, in which case government revenues have much less connection with the price of gasoline. (Of course, a rise in the price coud cause people to buy less gasoline, and then government revenues could fall.) In yet other cases, governments will impose BOTH taxes, e.g., 12 cents a litre gasoline tax, plus a 10% sales tax.
• So, in order to find out, you have to know what the structure is in whatever country and state you are in. Another way would be to do searches on local media to find commentary on the impact on government revenues of rising gas prices. Here in Canada, much has been made of the windfall to the federal government of rising gas prices, and there have been estimates published by the news media. This may have been done in your country as well. Ground Zero | t 15:16, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

All that being said, the majority of the rise in fuel prices recently, in most jurisdictions, will be due to increasing crude oil prices rather than government rapaciousness. Have a look at these crude oil price graphs. The stuff is roughly twice as expensive as it was only two years ago. --Robert Merkel 07:31, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Here's some interesting data; historical crude oil and "pumped" gasoline prices, showing both the dollar value and the inflation-adjusted "real" value. Shimgray 13:36, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

In the United States the gas taxes are normally listed on the gas pump for you to read while you're filling up. Dismas 14:38, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

You could always buy gasoline in the UK: Only 63% tax... Ojw 19:19, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Prohibition

Why did prohibition come into existencein the 1920's?

Please read the Wikipedia articles Temperance movement and Prohibition for a good overview which should answer your question. hydnjo talk 18:45, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Galvanize Sex Machine?

Any one know?

See our articles on Sex toy, Sybian and Erotic electrostimulation. Do any of these match what you're looking for?-gadfium 22:42, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Parrot adult novel?

Any clues?

Can we get a full question? I have no idea what you're asking here and above. — Laura Scudder | Talk 20:27, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

The Itching Parrot the first Latin American novel? MeltBanana 01:40, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Yes, that sounds rather seedy ;-) Shantavira 10:03, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

What identification is required to go to Canada and back from Michigan?

"CANADA – Passport or proof of U.S. citizenship such as a birth certificate, naturalization certificate, and photo ID required." "Foreign Entry Requirements", United States Department of State. 119 20:43, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

A birth certificate will work, but don't bother with the hospital one with your footprint on it. You need the real one from the department of health. Also, before Sept 11, if you didn't look ethnic (they scrutinize anyone that does more closely and always have) and get lucky, I've seen lots of people get to Canada and back with just driver's licenses. Especially if you tell them you're just going to party in Windsor for the night. Still, I don't recommend it, especially these days. They don't have to let you back into the US without the proper papers if they don't want to. - Taxman ^Talk 05:58, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

Mind you, if you plan to make the journey often, it may be simplest to just get a passport, to save you having to carry around birth certificates &c. Shimgray 13:33, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Living in Vermont we go to America Jr. (just kidding around, folks) about once a year for concerts, shows, etc. We always just use our driver's license and haven't had any problems going or coming. A passport may speed things up but probably not that much since we'd still be asked the same standard questions of "What are your travel plans", "When do you intend to return", etc.

Starting at the end of 2007, a passport will be required. [19] kmccoy (talk) 03:04, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

The above assumes the question is about a person who is a US citizen. Conditions a bit different for legal residents and visitors of other nationalities. AlMac|^(talk) 03:38, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Actual value of a 1987 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe

I Am trying to locate a source where I can look up the actual value, not blue book value, of my 1987 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe. I believe my car is worth more than book value since it is a rare vehicle.

Thank you, Tracie Fabre

When you mean "value", do you mean "what would somebody pay me for this vehicle", which is generally the most relevant determination of the value of a vehicle (or, in fact, any item). You can only find this out directly by putting the vehicle on the market and seeing what people are prepared to pay for it. However, you can get a fair idea by finding out what other people are paying for similar vehicles, or, if that's not available, how much vendors are asking for such vehicles (with the assumption that the actual selling price will generally be a bit lower). Through the wonders of the internet, you can actually find out these things directly these days.

One site where cars are sold online is EBay, and a search for "Ford Thunderbird Turbo" turned up what appears to be a fine example of a 1988 T-Bird Turbo at auction. You may be interested to see what the final selling price is.

Another way you can gauge the value of your car is in classifieds listings. AutoTrader.com has nationwide listings. I searched for Thunderbirds built between 1986 and 1990 (for an example) and turned up nearly 200 listings. Again I'd remind you that, ultimately, most of the cars will sell for less than what the vendor is asking for. --Robert Merkel 05:28, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

From 64.109.252.166

Are you aware that Baptist are not protestants? Luther, Calvin and others left the catholic church and were protestants. The Baptist were never part of that movement. Your research is flawed. They were the rebaptizers or called Ana-Baptist because of the issure of the lack of infant baptism. I am a Baptist and I am not a Protestant!

D. Clubb

History of the Baptists, Thomas Armatiage America in Crimson Red, Jim Beller Trail of Blood, Author unknown

Our article on Baptists does seem to rather explicitly state that they are "often considered" a protestant denomination - it does not say they are - and has a discursive section on the issue of such denominational labelling... (though I note, interestingly, that the Catholic Encyclopedia calls them Protestant) Shimgray 22:17, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Protestant has various levels of meaning, but often means any Christian who is not Roman Catholic. The OED says A member or adherent of any of the Christian churches or bodies which repudiated the papal authority, and separated or were severed from the Roman communion in the Reformation of the sixteenth century, and generally of any of the bodies of Christians descended from them; hence in general language applied to any Western Christian or member of a Christian church outside the Roman communion Shantavira 10:01, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Any Christian who is not Roman Catholic or Orthodox. But I seem to recall that Mormons are not considered Protestants, either. Zoe 21:12, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

As Shantivira noted, "Protestant" has different meanings. Originally, it meant something very specific: that a particular local church or group thereof was protesting. Nowadays, sort of a "lazy" usage is common: any Christian group other than Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox. And this usage is particularly common in Roman Catholic circles. The Baptists are sort of iffy; they clearly did not originate in a protest against the R.C. church, and it is true that groups like Presbyterian, Methodist, Lutheran, etc. (which are clearly Protestant) have much in common, while the Baptists differ from them all. HOWEVER, what might be behind the original poster's claims is the idea held by many baptists, that there was a hidden "baptist succession" going back to biblical times, which has only in recent centuries manifested itself publicly, and that this is the true origin of the baptist churches. I don't think there is much historical evidence of this, but, again, many baptists (but by no means all!) hold this to be the case. Thus, they would claim that the origin of the baptist churches has nothing whatsoever to do with the protestants, except possibly that the Reformation made it possible for the baptists to go public. — Nowhither 10:00, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

I was always under the impression Baptists were an offshoot of Calvinists, and therefore certainly Protestant. More Protestant than Anglicans, anyway. Methodists are also iffy, they started as a kind of protest against the Anglican Church rather than a protest against the R.C. church. --Angr/_{tɔk tə mi} 11:08, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Racoon problem...

For some reason, 3 racoons have suddenly decided to camp outside of my house every night. They make all sorts of noise and I can't sleep well. Is there a way to get rid of them, say by leaving orange peels on my lawn? I heard that they don't like the smell. Any suggestions? --HappyCamper 23:08, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Hey HC, they're just being happy campers. Anyway there are lots of commercial products of course [20] but I have heard of moth balls or flakes being used as a homegrown remedy. Good luck and be thankful that those noisy campers aren't skunks! ;-) hydnjo talk 01:25, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Oh geez! Don't even bring up the skunks. I had those just the other week! Left such a smell in my house because I didn't close the windows during one night when I went to sleep. I'll try the mothballs and see what happens. At least the skunks left on their own after a few days. These new happy campers are really taking advantage of the canopy outside. Thanks for your suggestion! --HappyCamper 01:51, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Be sure that you're not keeping anything under or near that canopy (or near an open window) that may attract critters. The least amount of veggie or potato peelings left on the ground will attract attention. Also be watchful for empty food (potato chip, candy, peanut butter) containers or wrappers. hydnjo talk 18:51, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Moth balls work pretty well against skunks -- I haven't found anything better, anyway. I kinda doubt that'll work against raccoons. Raccoons pretty much do whatever they want, no matter what you do. In addition to keeping food out of the area as mentioned above, avoid urinating in your camp area, as many unwelcome animals are attracted by urine. Tuf-Kat 02:54, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

SS_Andrea Doria

The Andrea Doria article information at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Andrea_Doria has an image of what? Is the photograph of one of the sea monsters that perhaps pushed the Stockholm into the Andrea Doria? Please aid in my understanding of that photograph.

Nothing on that page looks remotely like a sea monster to me. Perhaps you were looking at the page of Andrea Doria rather than the SS Andrea Doria? - Nunh-huh 01:08, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

The picture in question may be the Stockholm. hydnjo talk 01:30, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

He was probably refering to this version that showed some kind of sea snake. -83.129.45.86 13:31, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Almost amusing. Isn't it past your bedtime? — JIP | Talk 17:23, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Depression and its correlation to the grieving process.

I am very interested in any statistics related to the percent of depression that is caused by the grieving process.

I would say 0%. If the feelings of sadness have a tangible proximate cause, they are not depression. Depression is essentially extended sadness (with other feelings mixed in) without proximate cause. Superm401 | Talk 01:35, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

Smith & Wesson model 10-5 .38 cal revolver

What year or years was this gun manufactured & where? Any other info on it would be appreciated as well. Thank you,..anon

• That is a Model 10 Military & Police originally introduced in September 1945. The 10-5 refers to a modification of this weapon made starting 1962. This modification entailed a change in the width of the front sight on the standard barrel. In total this weapon had 10 modifications made to it (10-10 in 1988). I have some more info on pages 300 and 301 of my reference work (in Dutch), but not enough time to fully translate everything I can read there. If you have any other specific questions, feel free to post them and I will try to answer them as best I can. - Mgm|^(talk) 17:03, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

Computer Illiterate needs help

The situation: I have a photo of a lady on American Singles. Her I D name is "jesus in my heart". She is a retired hairdresser and moved to Tulsa, OK recently from Nashville, TN. I have paid for her membership for 30 days but she doesn't respond or even sign in to read messages.

The question: Is there some way for me to hire someone to get information from that web site. All I need is a name. I can send a photo if that helps. Thank you

To answer your question: Of course there is a way to hire someone to get information if you are willing to pay the price but you are unlikely to find that "detective" here at Wikipedia. Also, I think that you may have already paid enough (be watchful for next month's bill). Hiring someone at this point will cost you more but will most likely not have the result that you are looking for. hydnjo talk 19:17, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Well I'd rather think that if you haven't formed a relationship with her don't try chasing here - I think that'd be kinda creepy and possibly scary for the poor lady. She might be deliberately ignoring you. Of course, continue with the dating sites, but you may have to let this one go. After all there are plenty of fish in the sea! Good luck! Dunc|☺ 20:13, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm making a lot of assumptions here, but I assume the reason you ask the question is that you feel you've been duped into paying someone's fee for them. You could try contacting the American Singles website (who presumably have a record of the transaction with a) the amount you paid and b) who you paid for) and ask them to close the account you gifted and transfer the balance to your account (a more hopeful prospect than securing a refund).

I would tend to counsel against trying to track a person from online life into real life as these things tend not to play out very happily (to put it mildly). --bodnotbod 22:01, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

My Oh! my, we do seem to be quite knowledgeable about this. ;-) hydnjo talk 02:20, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

If the above suggestions are not fruitful and you have lost money, submit a complaint with the Better Buisiness Bureau. It is fairly self-explainatory and can be located at www.bbb.org.

Pan Am Flight 103, Lockerbie

Does nobody remember the Comet disasters of the 50`s? Those aircraft broke up due to metal fatigue causing the pressure skin to rupture. The effect is just like a bomb. It was immediately assumed that the Lockerbie crash was caused by a bomb and no suggestion of structural failure was ever made. I understand BA withdrew some 747s in the 80`s for urgent repairs after cracks were found, following a warning from Boeing. If such an accident were to occur it is most likely to happen to an old 747 at maximum weight at top of climb as it attained cruise speed in turbulent conditions. All these factors apply to Pan Am Flight 103. In view of all the inconsistencies in the prosecution case and the news today (28/8/05)of an allegation that the CIA planted evidence, does anyone have incontravertible proof that a bomb caused the Lockerbie disaster?

The proof would be "it blew up". The Comet failures are well understood - square penetrations in pressure vessel bad move - and have very little resemblance to the damage patterns observed on Pan Am 103. No serious claims have been made that the aircraft was not destroyed by a bomb, and this kind of damage isn't something where you can easily pretend an internal explosion happened instead of an external breakup. From our Pan Am Flight 103 page:

Investigators found an area on the left side of the lower fuselage in the forward cargo hold area, at position 14L, directly under the 747's navigation and communications systems, where a small section of about 20 square inches had been completely shattered, with signs of pitting and sooting. The skin had been bent and torn back in a so-called starburst pattern, petalled outwards, a pattern that was evidence of an explosion.

This sort of thing is pretty solid evidence of an explosion rather than structural failure.

The recent news stories revolve around evidence being planted or misrepresented in order to frame Libya for the bomb rather than a Syrian-backed organisation; none of them allege that the existence of a bomb was faked. Shimgray 21:36, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Private Eye at the time of the trial ran scathing reports on the prosecution and pinning the blame, IIRC on Syria. I think Paul Foot wrote them - from that article "He took a particular interest in the conviction of Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrahi for the Lockerbie bombing, firmly believing Megrahi to have been a victim of a miscarriage of justice.[21] ". It's not new news that there is a body of opinion that the Lybians were framed for political reasons. And as others have noted, there is little doubt about the immediate cause. --Tagishsimon (talk)

Indeed. I'd have quoted The Flight from Justice except my copy's not to hand; however, whilst it's been generally thought for a long time that Megrahi was a scapegoat, I don't recall anyone claiming evidence was planted until now (as opposed to being "creatively interpreted"). Shimgray 21:53, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

quail with gout: Do quail get gout?

Do quail get gout? We have a quail with a swollen claw. We put it in salt water, warm water, and it gets better for a while and then flairs up again. One of our quail died because we didn't know what to do.

Apparently all birds can fall prey to avian gout ([22]). But you need to talk with a veterinarian. We can't really help much here. - Nunh-huh 06:33, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

I agree that a trip to the vet is in order. In the meantime, you might as well switch to a lower-protein diet now if you can, as that will inevitably be a part of the vet's recommendation. — Laura Scudder | Talk 07:51, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

only one year(2004-2005),marketing analysis of coke & pepsi

(header posted by 210.212.89.5 together with duplicate with slightly different wording) - Mgm|^(talk) 10:33, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

• Could you please provide some context? For example, what country should the info concern, why do you want it? - Mgm|^(talk) 10:33, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

Inaccurate information

Hello Wikipedia, My name is Lakayana Drury. While reading an article from your site, I found some inacurate information. I tryed to find an E-amil adress that I could contact you by, but i was unable to find one. I looked under your contact us page, but I was confused. There was never a page that I could get an actual E-mail from. If yo could please E-mail me, I and help me figure this out I would very very happy, thankyou.

-Lakayana Drury

Also my E-mail is: (removed)

Hello, Lakayana! Wikipedia is a wiki. That means that almost every article and page on Wikipedia can be edited by anyone -- including you! You didn't specify which article you found to have inaccurate information, but if you go to that article again, look for a link at the top of the window that says "Edit this page." Click it, and you'll be able to edit the article and correct the errant information. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! (Also sending reply via email.) Garrett Albright 13:56, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

about "Dark Mansions" (1986) (TV)

Hello,

Do you have or do you know somehow where can i find to buy "Dark Mansions" (1986) (TV) starring Joan Fountaine, Michael York etc.? Was this movie ever released on video or dvd? If the answer is no and you have this made-for-TV movie, can you please make me a copy of it on a dvd or vhs and i will pay your service!!!! I asked you this because it is my all time favourite movie and i am searching for this movie for a long time and i couldn't find it anywhere.

Thank you in advance! Vladut

Normally for these things I'd recommned following the links at IMDB page, however for this film there are no such links. This suggests to me that it has never been released on video. You could try some shopping price comparison sites that search multiple online retailers. If that draws a blank, people on the IMBD message boards might know of other places, or you could contact one of the organisations involved in the film (e.g. the studio, the distributor, etc). If there has been a video released it is probable that they will know either where you can locate it, or the perople to contact regarding it. Thryduulf 11:55, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Transfering Files from a PC to a Mac

I have approximately 100gb of files that I would like to transfer from my PC to my girlfriend's powerbook. Both have ethernet connections, can I simply string a cord from one to the other? I was wondering what the easiest way would be to do this? Thanks!

It depends on what kind of cord you have. You need a "null" cable (one in which the wires inside are swapped over in a special way), which is really only useful for direct computer-to-computer connection. Failing that, two normal cables and an ethernet hub will work (watch out for a slow 10-base-t hub, which will probably slow your transfer down when compared with a 100-base-tx hub or the null cable). -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 20:09, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the response! Will any null cable do (such as this: http://www.pcnation.com/web/details.asp?affid=808&item=095614)? Could you possibly link to an example? Again, thank you very much for your help! 12.217.244.171 20:14, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

That's a null serial cable (even if you got the software to work for it, it would take weeks for the transfer you want). You need a "null ethernet cable", which seems to be more commonly called a "cross over cable". Here's a random vendor that sells them: http://www.cablesnmor.com/crossover-cables.html (any computer shop will sell them too, for $5 or so), and here's an explanation of them: http://www.homenethelp.com/web/explain/about-ethernet-crossover.asp. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 20:24, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Sorry, I'm MAC retarded. Does anybody know if the ipod, functioning as an external hard drive, can transfer files from a PC to a MAC?

If you don't get a satisfatory answer here, call Apple support or, if one is nearby, ask at the Apple store. hydnjo talk 21:08, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

I imagine so. I've certainly done it with a far smaller (and simpler) mp3 player, so I don't think there's any reason you couldn't do it with an iPod too. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 21:16, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

This page may help. - Nunh-huh 21:29, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

You can do it with an iPod. And why do people always spell it MAC?? It's not an acronym. It's Mac. Dismas 21:41, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Yes, you can definitely do it with an iPod. You have to put it into a particular mode, if I recall -- turning off "automatic synchronization", and it will act as a portable hard drive which will work on both PCs and Macs. I do it all the time. --Fastfission 16:06, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

• Do PCs have firewire? It's pretty darned fast. I did a Mac-to-Mac transfer when I got my new PowerBook. Nelson Ricardo 03:33, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

Military rank

Hi,

I am trying to find out what the rank is in the UK Army - Fusilliers.

It is CDSM. it may be GDSM.

Having browsed your Rank comparison site, it looks as if this may be the initials for:

Colour ? Sergeant Major

Company ? Sergeant Major

Many thanks

Christopher Webber

No, GDSM is guardsman, i.e. private. Dunc|☺ 21:01, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

So that would also of course indicate that they are foot guards not fusiliers. Dunc|☺ 00:28, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. I will also spell it "Mac" from now on.

Sueing the police?

Can you? --Maoririder 21:09, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

• If you live in a relatively democratic country, of course you can.--Pharos 21:15, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

{{disputed}} What do other people think? --Maoririder 21:17, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

• What on the good green earth is the disputed tag supposed to mean? Look, what country do you want to sue the police in?--Pharos 21:21, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

How about telling us (1) which country you're in (from your username, New Zealand?) and (2) a rough idea of the nature of your complaint. Assuming you are not trolling. Dunc|☺ 21:20, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Sueing Bush:::: Can you? --Maoririder 21:21, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Bush isnt the police and no you cant sue the government for doing what the government is empowered to do, even if you think the entire administration is more devastating to this country and the world than all 10 plagues together. alteripse 21:29, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

• • You may recall that the previous President Clinton got into trouble over a number of sexual matters, which he tried to escape responsibility for, and the US Supreme Court had to rule on it. A President is not immune from responsibilities, except for some minor stuff like traffic tickets. AlMac|^(talk) 07:29, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

• The U.S. President is not exempt from litigation; in fact, I think George W. Bush is the subject of a number of ongoing lawsuits. That's doesn't mean you're going to win, of course.--Pharos 21:34, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
• Yep, Pharos is absolutely right. I can only give details about the US. You can sue the police, but there are various procedural differences and difficulties involved in suing US governments in general. The federal govt is the hardest of course, but most police are run by local and state governments in the US. If you're so desparate to get the right answer, why don't you talk to an experienced attny in your jurisdiction or do some research at the local law library. - Taxman ^Talk 21:40, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

• There has recently been some controversy in Swedish media because King Carl XVI Gustaf was involved in a traffic accident, and although it's customary in Sweden to administer an alcometry test to all parties involved in such an accident, the King has some kind of "royal immunity" or some other superpower, and was thus allowed to go straight home without so much as a "tsk, tsk". Does this mean members of the Swedish Royalty can walk around the streets committing mass murder or something and get away with it scot free? — JIP | Talk 07:38, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Many systems of law (including non-monarchies) include some notion of sovereign immunity. It's often limited to acts performed in the process of governing. - Nunh-huh 07:56, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
    • Is there any limitation to the severity of the crime? Is a king allowed to commit mass murder if he does it in the process of governing? Carl XVI Gustaf was driving his car as a private individual, not a symbol of the Swedish Monarchy. Why was he still exempt from the alcometry test? — JIP | Talk 08:47, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
      • In some places there are limitations; other places (e.g. The U.K.) have no such limitations. The first member of the British Royal family to acquire a criminal record was Princess Anne in November 2002 (for not controlling her bull terrier, which later killed one of the Queen's corgis). There's theoretically no way to, say, arrest and try the King of England for a murder. But if such a case were to occur, the theory would be quietly ignored and something worked out. - Nunh-huh 09:21, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
        • Although she wasn't prosecuted for letting her dog kill one of the Queen's corgis! :) IIRC Princess Anne's dog bit a member of the public in a park, hence the prosecution. In the UK I think anyone can be prosecuted except the Queen, since all criminal prosecutions are conducted in her name (R. vs ....) and she can't prosecute herself. -- Arwel 10:56, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
  • There is precedent for arresting and trying a King of England, see Charles I of England. But that precedent is not much in favour in the UK at the moment. DES ^(talk) 15:39, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
    • That's hardly a legal precedent, though. Proteus (Talk) 16:35, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
• In the US governments and governmental agencies are very common subjects of lawsuits indeed, but there are procedural requirements, and everything depends on exactly what the issue is. In ost countries with somehtign like a rule of law there will be a method for legally challanging governmental actions, but it may not apply to all such actions. Details vary widly by country. DES ^(talk) 15:39, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Me and some friends discussed this and in Sweden what would probably happen would be that Carl XVI Gustaf would be judged unfit lose his crown. // Liftarn

In most countries the political leader will be immune to most charges, except for high treason (like Louis XVI in France). They are expected to behave reasonably properly (refrain from using drugs, don't cause car accidents...), and things like murder are supposed to be, though not allowed, yet not prosecuted, under the "high interest of the nation".

Which of course makes it interesting to see under what sort of charges people like Saddam Hussein could actually be trialed. Rama 09:35, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Do bandades really help?

To stop the bleeding but also to help stop the infection? Got any views? --Maoririder 21:18, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

See Sticking plaster. Dunc|☺ 21:21, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Bandaids are used for lots of reasons for various types of skin injuries including comfort and concealment. They are most useful for protecting an area of denuded skin (not a cut or puncture) from dirt and infection. It doesnt stop the bleeding unless a hand is holding it firmly against the wound. Besides, as they taught me in medical school, all bleeding stops. alteripse 21:34, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

That is true, however it should be noted there is generally a preference for having the bleeding stop before the patient expires. --fvw* 02:27, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

But without a band aid the wound would dry out, form a scab, and protect itself from infection. The main use of them is as a placebo for children IMO Theresa Knott (a tenth stroke) 22:36, 31 August 2005 (UTC) Yes, that's what I meant by listing "comfort" as the first reason for bandaid use. alteripse 23:39, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Nah - I rarely use a bandade, but last weekend I cut my thumb whilst mending the roof. Not too bad, but the bleeding was an inconvenience. Applying a bandade certainly helped absorb the blood whilst a scab was forming, and allowed me to get on with the job after 5 minutes instead of 15 min. Covering the wound also helped to avoid catching the cut on anything else which might have reopened the bleeding. I can't say whether they help to assist the speed of recovery.-- Solipsist 23:42, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Full list of singers and black people against hate crimes

Famous black people

Um, we don't have a full list of black people, or singers, opposed to hate crimes; I'd imagine that the overwhelming majority are (a few might argue that singling out hate crimes is unnecessary as they should be treated like other violent crimes). Were you referring to some recent event or announcement where celebrities publicised their opposition to hate crimes? If you could mention one or two of the names who were definitely involved in such an event, it might help to find the full list of supporters, or if you can recall the name of the organisation responsible for organising the event it would also help. --Robert Merkel 02:32, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Birthday question

I recently turned 24 on August 24th. One of my family members swore that there is a term for when your age matchs the date of your birth. Is there such a term for this occurence?

• Being under 31? --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 22:28, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Let's not be jealous. Superm401 | Talk 22:41, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
    • It's called a Golden birthday. Rmhermen 00:48, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
      • This is dubious. The page was started yesterday. Never heard of it. Nelson Ricardo 03:29, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
        • It's real, or at least Google seems to think it is. I celebrated mine roughly 14 years ago. android79 14:36, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

gps

what is the website for the gps system that gives you coordinates of a chosen place?

GPS coordinates aren't "special" to GPS, they're just Geographic coordinate system coordinates, more commonly known as lattitude and longitude; You can find these in an atlas and on many other maps. For many cities and landmarks the lattitude and longitude is specified in the wikipedia article.

This site, linked at the bottom of Geographic coordinate system may also be helpful in finding the coordinates of a specific location. --fvw* 02:25, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Location filming.

I would if you would be able to tell me, please, approximately when filmmakers started taking stars and equipment abroad on location? I need to know, specifically for a book I am writing, whether location filming was already a regular thing during the early thirities or if at that time foreign scenes were either built on studio lots or perhaps shot in Death Valley, or in surrounding areas, but not much further away. Thank you. Annie@hunters33.freeserve.co.uk

• Filming was still in its infancy back then, and I doubt there was enough funding to pay for trips to film on location outside the country (since you mentioned Death Valley, I'm assuming you live in the US). As far as I know a lot of early films were shot in studios or sound stages in those early years. Have you checked Wikipedia itself for articles? History of film may be a good article to read. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:42, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
• Well, European filmmakers were already shooting silent films on location by at least 1922 (Nosferatu). Apparently even such films as the 1933 The Island of Lost Souls were shot on location around the L.A. area, in this case Catalina Island [23]. You might find it helpful to browse the Category:Films by year to find other films of the time period. — Laura Scudder | Talk 15:50, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
• Many early silent movies were filmed on location as events occurred, or else were recreated. They didn't need a sound stage, of course, since there was no worry about sound interfering with the silent films. Even in 1898, a movie like 'Leapfrog' on the Beach was being filmed at Far Rockaway, New York, out on the beach. Theodore Roosevelt Leaving the White House was filmed in Washington, DC in the same year. Also in that year, there were several films made in Cuba during the Spanish-American War:
  • Wreck of the Battleship 'Maine', filmed in Havana harbor
  • U.S. Troops Landing at Daiquiri, Cuba
  • Troops Making Military Road in Front of Santiago
  • Troops at Evacuation of Havana

and many more. Zoe 22:28, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Moanda-Mbinda cable car

This was apparently the longest cable car in the world. Does anyone know whether it was an aerial tramway or a gondola lift? Either way, it should be included in the relevant article. I asked this on the talk page of aerial tramway several months ago and got no response - can anyone here answer the question? Otherwise, I think we may need a proper article on cable cars to add the information to. Warofdreams 12:05, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

I can only make an educated guess. Our article on Moanda states that it was built to export manganese: hence it was a de:Materialseilbahn, i.e. a kind of gondola lift with attached lorries (instead of cabins) as used commonly in mines. The term "lift" may be misleading; it is entirely possible that this cable car (like other, much smaller similar ones I've seen) didn't run uphill at all. An aerial tramway makes no sense, with only two cabins over a distance of 75 km the throughput would be laughable. It may have looked similar to this one in Italy. More images of similar installations from different places and times: [24]. It appears that such systems are called aerial ropeways or ropeway conveyors ([25], [26]). Lupo 15:05, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

And here—drum roll, please—a site in French that even has an image of the Moanda-Mbinda cable car! Some more info on that cable car and its demise (also in French): [27] (Comilog, the mine operator of that manganese mine in Gabon, is a division of Eramet, according to [28]). Lupo 15:33, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

The cable car was 76 km long and had 858 supports between 5 and 74 m high. [29]. I think we have enough material here not only for an article about ropeway conveyors, but also on the Moanda-M'binda ropeway conveyor! I just hope you can read French... Lupo 15:43, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Wow - you work fast! Many thanks for that; I'll work on relevant articles once I've had a chance to digest that information. Warofdreams 16:32, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Update the article COMILOG Cableway which is about a Ropeway conveyor]would appear to be the subject of the conversation above. Jeepday 14:05, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Daredevil Schreyer

If anyone has knowledge about Daredevil Schreyer, please let me know. Per family history he was with the Circus in the early 1900's. He rode a motorcycle in a circular cage. Was killed when the motorcycle stopped running, he fell and was crushed. If it sounds familiar, please advise-Thanks--69.167.118.96 14:02, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

It might help if you could tell us more information, such as which circus it might have been, and an approximate geographic location. However, this is the kind of question the Wikipedia isn't particularly good at answering, in general. --Robert Merkel 14:44, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

See, "A Daring feat in the amusement line," Scientific American, June 13, 1903 , pages 450-451, the subject is A.M. Schreyer and his 105 foot dive via bicycle into a tank of water.

vintage soda straws

Hello: I was born in 1947, and what I trying to find proof of, is something in existence around early '50's. I distinctly remember drinking straws that were jewel toned colors, transparent, smaller dia. than todays are, and were made out of some type of cellophane or cellulose. If anyone else remembers these, please, if you can, find me some reference to them, somewhere. I told my kids about them but they think I am wrong. Help with this, no matter how long it takes to get it, would surely be appreciated. They were emerald green, ruby red, lapis blue,and a rich goldy yellow in color,these straws. Thanks so much, in advance, i will look for a reply here, or if you can email me, at rbrugger@awesomenet.net Ruth

OMG!! I know what you're talking about! They're these thin straws, completel transparent with these spiral stripes on them. These stripes are also transparent and wind along the whole length of the straw. The diameter of the straw is about 3-4 mm, and the stripes come in blue, red, yellow and green. They are slightly longer than the typical straws found in say, McDonalds. I think they are made of the same material as the little bit of plastic found at the end of cocktail sticks. --HappyCamper 02:53, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Columbia Pictures Television

I used to know Richard Frankie, vicepresident of COLUMBIA PICTURES TELEVISION. I wish to contact him. There is NO WAY how Sony Pictures and the rest of numerous pages and parallel names allows you to make a contact. HOW DO I GO ABOUT IT ?

MIAMI SAILING CLUB Miami email/phone deleted by User:Robert Merkel

Thank you.

It's kind of primitive, but have you considered writing a snail mail letter to Sony Pictures? Searching for their address in California at whitepages.com gives the following address:

10202 Washington Boulevard, Culver City, CA 90232

Alternatively, the phone number is (310) 244-4000; while it's unlikely they'd put you straight through to Mr. Frankie, you could call them and ask for a fax number and fax them a message (asking for an email address is probably less likely to work). I'm sure most secretaries would pass such a message on. It would probably help if you sent any written contact on the sailing club stationery, too...nothing like institutional credibility :) Good luck contacting your old friend. --Robert Merkel 12:41, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

locating any business address

Most places with an Internet site have a page for contacting the company, from which you ought to be able to get the business address, then there is a method known as using snail mail, or postal service.

Visit your local book store and pick up a book on Researching the Internet for beginners ... there are a ton of titles out there. This will walk you thru how to do things like a whosis search to locate all hits anywhere on the Internet for the name of your choice ... watch out, you can gent millions of hits, or you can do an ordinary search engine search. Look for

• The company name you want an address on
• Statistical Resources
• Census results
• Stock market data base such as www.sec.gov/edgarhp.htm
  • Forbes magazine had a recent directory of major US companies not traded on the stock market
• [Wall Street Journal www.wsj.com]

For businesses with no such contact page on their web site, or no web site (such places do exist) they can often be located in a Telephone directory, assuming you can figure out what city they are in, then go to a public library reference section which has telephone directories of major cities.

During your public library visit, jot down the names of reference works there, and their publishers, then when you have Internet access again, go look for them on-line. Many publishers of directories of various industries have on-line access to search for the company of your choice. Consider

• look for Chambers of Commerce then search to the national, then drill down to the city where you think they may have offices;
• www.ceoexpress.com;
• [Dun & Bradstreet www,dnb.com];
• www.hoovers.com
• major libraries themselves;
• [Motley Fool www.fool.com]
• Thomas Directories;

The phone book directory publishers are eager to get their publications distributed for free, or at extremely low cost ... just tell a phone company that you want a copy of their phone directory, and they will be happy to supply you with just about any city in America, perhaps other cities of the world. There's a 1-800 phone directory ... all businesses that have some 1-800 # organized like a Yellow Pages directory.

AlMac|^(talk) 05:41, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Come on, AlMac. For a computer programmer, you should be able to do a better job at formatting and marking-up your post than all that. Garrett Albright 18:15, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

NFL Nicknames - "The Freezer"

Was there a football player in the 1980s whose nickname was "The Freezer"? I am not referring to William Perry, "The Refrigerator" who played for the Chicago Bears.

Anon

Google turned up this page about the Bud Bowl (what, we don't have an article about the Bud Bowl???). Might this be what you're thinking about? -- Rick Block (talk) 01:18, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

I seem to remember than when he first started playing, Michael Dean Perry, the Fridge's younger brother, was called "The Icebox." That was until it became apparent that MDP was a far better player than his bigger brother. Mwalcoff 21:04, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

I believe that there was a player nicknamed "The Freezer". I just don't know who it was. I'm interested in finding out. I've actually been wondering this for a few years.

Ryan

US Army Troop strength

I would like to know what the U.S. Army troop strength for active duty personnel was on 1 January 1993 and 1 January 2001, Please.

Please send answer to: buttry at gci dot net

    Thank You,
    Bill Buttry

What does BULAGA mean?

looking for elven duities from mythology and legends

i'm trying to find elven duitie names from historical myths and legends. would you by chance know where i could look. thanks angel email addy [removed]

You might try Category:Deities. It's subcategory Category:Deities by culture would be particularly helpful if you're interested in a particular pantheon. — Laura Scudder | Talk 23:53, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Protein Suppliments/Lifting Weights

I have been lifting weights fairly consistantly for the past two years. I generally do one set of several different exercises (butterflies, bench press, elevated bench press, etc.) for about 8 repetitions until I am totally exausted. However, I seem to have reached a maximum for my bench press. It is fairly low, at about 130 pounds. Do protein suppliments work? Is there a way to increase what I can lift?

A protein supplement increases muscle strength most spectacularly in a male past puberty who is physically active, and lifting regularly, and has been consuming a low-protein diet. Adding more protein to a typical high protein, high calorie american diet produces much less improvement. alteripse 01:11, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Yep, a supplement is not as likely to help you as plain old hard work, but no one wants to hear that. You don't mention if you are male or female or what your age is, so I can't offer too many specifics about why you may not be stronger than you are. I may be wrong, but I think most females may simply not be able to increase their strength as much as males. Also, you don't mention how many sets you do. The things I do know are that each muscle group needs adequate rest between exercise sessions to recover, and without that you won't progress as fast. What worked best for me was to only lift 3 times a week, MWF for ex. After that, intensity of the workout is important Do you have a good spotter/partner that helps push you? That's key for safety too of course. Also your program may just need to be changed. The program I used with great success was (after a lighter warmup) sets of 7-6-5-4-1-1 repetitions each, increasing the weight each set until the last one was the most I could lift at the end of the bench session. I just experimented with increasing the weights on some of the sets from one session to the next, and I generally aimed for the highest starting weight I could, but still finish the whole thing if I increased 5 or hopefully 10 lbs between each set. Then I would do additional excercises sometimes for variety, and especially dumbbell bench press, as high a weight as I could do 2-3 sets of 10 reps. So that was way too much detail, since you can find lots of programs out there. This just happened to be one recommended for strength specifically, and was very successful for me. When I was 15 I increased my bench press from 130 or so to over 200 in about 6 months. - Taxman ^Talk 21:26, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

"Human food"?

You know about cat food and dog food. Where can I get some human food? I mean, do they sell something in a can which I can just eat with a spoon and know that I am getting all the vitamins, etc., that I need? --User:Juuitchan

Sure, there are lots of nutritionally complete liquid or pudding diet products: Ensure, Vivonex, and Sustacal have been marketed in grocery stores in the US for decades. alteripse 01:07, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Bachelor Chow...Now with FLAVOR! — Laura Scudder | Talk 02:37, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Yes, what I am describing *is* a form of bachelor chow. But where do I *get* bachelor chow? -J

The 31st century (duh!). I thought that would be obvious. -K

I don't have a thousand years, you comedian. I meant: where can I get bachelor chow these days? I would guess that there would be quite a market for it, so I'd be surprised if they don't sell it. They ought to sell it in cans labeled exactly that, except that might cause thorny legal issues (because of Futurama). -J

Soylent Green is pretty nutritious, and definitely qualifies as "human food." And you'll only have to wait another seventeen years for it. But seriously, do you really just want to eat the same mash for every meal, every day? (Also see MRE.) Garrett Albright 18:08, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Another alternative if you want solid food is primate food such as Purina certified primate diet 5048. Buy in bulk and I am sure they would put some Bachelor Food labels on it for you. alteripse 23:26, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

As I understand it, human breast milk supplies all the nutrition needed for a human being (even an adult). I don't think you can buy it in a can and eat it with a spoon, but maybe baby formula would work as well. --Angr/_{tɔk tə mi} 11:12, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Why are you telling me this?! I am base enough as it is. -J

Milk (of any kind) wouldn't work, after reaching a scertain point of biological maturity most humans loose the ability to digest milk properly (like any other mamal), see Lactose intolerance. People of European descent is the exception as we have a mutation that allow us to keep producing the nessesary enzyme, but even so I doubht you would get enough fiber on that diet too :P --Sherool 01:22, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Buzet Wine

I have a bottle of Buzet Wine from France. What food should I pair it with? Thanks!

You may wish to read the official site of the Buzet winery association. Apart from that, you did not specify whether you had red, white or rosé! David.Monniaux 06:53, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Of Mice and Men

Why was George's last name Milton. Did that have to do with something or someone but i need to find out.

It might have something to do with John Milton, or perhaps something he wrote. Now do your own homework. Gentgeen 05:57, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Whiteboard

The article on the whiteboard does not reference who invented it. Does anyone at Wikipedia know this information?

• Are you referring to the variant with markers or the electronic one? Maybe http://pub6.bravenet.com/forum/435287221/show/277096 will help a bit. - 131.211.210.12 08:40, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

King's School Canterbury

What are the names of the board of govenors at King's School Canterbury, including the chairman of the baord who id the archdeacon of the Canterbury Cathedral?

For the first question I suggest you look on the website of the school - http://www.kings-school.co.uk/

Canterbury cathedral's website [30] gives the answer to your second question as "The Venerable Patrick Evans". Thryduulf 16:21, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Stripped bicycle seat

I have a bicycle seat that twists no matter how much I tighten it to the seatpost. Is there something I can put on the seatpost to give it just a little more friction so the seat won't keep twisting? --Jbaber 18:51, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

I would suggest wrapping the post near the point of slippage in electrical/electrician's tape. Ideally, you'd gradually increase the thickness of tape as you move towards the seat bottom, creating a wedge for the seatpost. However, that's probably overkill -- you can just add small increments until the seat seats properly. — Lomn | Talk / RfC 18:57:22, 2005-08-31 (UTC)

If the tape doesn't fit, you may be able to create enough friction by roughing up the post with a metal file. If that's not the source of the slippage, how is the seat attached to the tube? Or if the seat comes off, mis-shaping the seat tube slightly in a vise or something may also create enough friction. If you can loosen the connection enough to get some tape in there, thats obviously less destructive. - Taxman ^Talk 21:45, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

Have it measured at a bike shop for a new seatpost -- the one you have doesn't fit, and they need to be exactly the right size. You can use the old saddle with the new seatpost by unbolting it (it attaches to the rails underneath the saddle) Ojw 19:26, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Types of Masters degrees

The Master's degree article discusses many different types of these degrees. A further distinction not covered well in the article is the distinction between masters by coursework and masters by research; in Australia, at least, there are Master's degree programs which are almost exclusively thesis based, and others where the thesis is a much smaller component. --Robert Merkel 22:05, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

You should post this in the discussion page for the master's degree article, or on the talk pages of those who created the page. Or you could Be Bold and cover the article yourself.--Ballchef 12:40, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Snail mail Address

What is the snail mail address of Ch. 32 - WFLD in Chicago??

[31] Not difficult to find - search for their site, linked from the front page. Shimgray 21:02, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Hurricane Katrina Victims Relief Fund

I would like information whether or not there are any plans by the rich and famous musicians, actors / actresses, comedians, and others who may be organizing any relief efforts for the victims of hurricane Katrina? I've seen your'e average "Joe Blow" and the usual Police, Fire, National Guard, etc, "All American Heros" who never get nominated for any emmys, oscars,or other awards like we see the already rich and famous receiving stepping up to the plate on a daily basis. These people risk their lives everyday for us and I would like to know if there has been, or is going to be any aid from the rich and famous on the Western U.S.? Thank You, Elaine B.

Elaine, while I haven't heard of any such celebrity relief effort, I would consider it inevitable sooner or later given the scale of the disaster. This time around, there's going to be no shortage of people who will need help... --Robert Merkel 22:02, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

See http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1508739/20050831/usher.jhtml?headlines=true. MTV, VH1 and CMT will be running a joint concert on September 3. I heard something being mentioned by NBC about a concert coming soon, but I didn't catch the details. Zoe 05:10, September 1, 2005 (UTC)

Also see this link for info on the NBC telethon. Dismas 13:30, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Kanye West is doing his part --Ballchef 12:56, 5 September 2005 (UTC)