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April 7

hit songs sharing titles

Somewhere I have seen a list of titles that belong to two (or more) hit songs; e.g., "Cherish" by the Association and "Cherish" by Madonna. Was it on Wikipedia? (Does WHAAOE apply?) I have not come up with the right keywords. —Tamfang (talk) 05:42, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see it not in Category:Lists of songs, and if I did later stumble upon it, I would probably nominate it for extermination. Having the same title seems to me to be a listable offense. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:58, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Tamfang. When I run the search term "different songs with the same title" through Google News and Google Books, I find quite a few hits, many of them quite solid at first glance. The news sources seem to focus on the broad category, while the book sources seem to focus on individual titles. Cullen328 (talk) 06:12, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cherish § Music lists seven songs by that title. Quite a few films also share their titles, and likewise for books (Introduction to Algebra^[1]). I cannot quite imagine source material covering any of this other than anecdotally. --Lambiam 07:05, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Some song titles are quite common like Stay#Songs, Breathe (song), You (disambiguation)#Songs, Runaway#Songs, Angel (disambiguation)#Songs, and the possible record Hold On#Songs. I haven't seen a general Wikipedia page about it. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:44, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's not songs but when it comes to common titles of works, nothing will beat List of television episodes titled Pilot. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:46, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly the list I saw was not a standalone page but a section of a page on Billboard #1 (or top ten) hits. —Tamfang (talk) 17:51, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The two Cherishes are mashed-up together in a song listed in List of mashup songs, and two or three others on that list are pairs of songs with the same title. Card Zero (talk) 06:54, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I must have been thinking of User:Timwi/List of sets of unrelated songs with identical titles, to which I may have contributed a few. —Tamfang (talk) 23:30, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, I also remember seeing (probably not on WP) a similar page limited to hits, with explicit mention of the title that has charted the most times for different songs. —Tamfang (talk) 15:29, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Harry the Lizard

In the TV show Death in Paradise there is a character called Harry, who is a lizard. He lives in the beach shack where the detective inspector characters are put up.

When you watch the entire run, you get the impression that in the early series, Harry was played by a real lizard: I imagine a very patient camera operator filmed his movements for hours on end so that they could use, in the final edit, whatever behaviour they needed. Then in later series, Harry is probably a CG lizard.

My questions are: is Harry a recognisable species of lizard? (I guess he must be if my guess is right that he was played by a real one.) If so which species? Then, has that changed: i.e. am I right that he has gone CGI and if so is he still intended to be a real-world species of lizard or is he just generic-green-lizard?

Finally, the question which prompted me to come to the reference desk: how long do those lizards generally live? Could Harry have lived around the various DIs for well over a decade? Or is their lifespan much shorter?

I won't actually cross-post at the science ref desk, but I might put a link there because this isn't entirely an entertainment related question. AndyJones (talk) 13:02, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It might not be accurate, but https://deathinparadise.fandom.com/wiki/Harry#:~:text=First%20Episode&text=Harry%20appears%20since%201%3A1,was%20startled%20to%20see%20him. --Onorem (talk) 13:04, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. If they are correct that makes Harry an anolis marmoratus. Our article doesn't actually say anything about lifespan. That article suggests he is CGI too but doesn't confirm whether Harry was played by a live lizard in early series. AndyJones (talk) 14:47, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To create a believable result in line with the narrative by splicing in shots of a real lizard (not on a green screen – the lizard is green!) is not impossible but would have required not only patiently shooting many hours of footage, but also a lot of sophisticated CGI manipulation (getting the lighting, shadows and such right), more work than using full CGI from the start. --Lambiam 06:23, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have wondered if it's possible that initially Harry was a real lizard who did an unscripted walk-on part, and the other actors simply adlibbed in response. This was successful, so he stayed. HiLo48 (talk) 00:22, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]