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[edit]Shooting sport
[edit]Today begins the 52nd ISSF World Shooting Championships. About it, what does it mean a score in 10 m air pistol like this: 385 - 16x? (the first number is the total points account, but the scond one with that 'x'?) You can see it at this link. Thanks. Leonprimer (talk) 05:11, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- Typically, "x" denotes "times" -- as in: a score of 385 in 16 shots (presumably?). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.15.157.44 (talk) 05:35, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
No, that is not correct. Another idea? Leonprimer (talk) 14:50, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- That would be "factor of the level of competition" as explained here:[1]. 2606:A000:1126:4CA:0:98F2:CFF6:1782 (talk) 15:42, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- I guess from the ranks that it's used as a tie-breaker when the number of points is the same. The rules at https://www.issf-sports.org/theissf/rules.ashx say the first tie-breaker is "a) The highest number of inner tens;". The x numbers must be the number of inner tens. It sounds plausible for the numbers. The shooters have more tens but inner ten is the central part of the ten area. The rules also say: "Ties in team events, including ties in the Qualification stage of Mixed Team events, must be decided by totaling the results of all members of a team and following the procedures for breaking individual ties." The link is consistent with this. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:48, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- If I read the somewhat abstruse scoring correctly, the 'x' is used for determining points for world ranking. I.e: (score) x (factor) = points; in this case: 385 x 16 = 6160 points. 2606:A000:1126:4CA:0:98F2:CFF6:1782 (talk) 16:09, 2 September 2018 (UTC) ... To clarify: the "factor of the level of competition" would be greater for world championship competition (16x) than, say regionals, which would have a lower factor number.
- My post was a reply to Leonprimer and not to you. My guess has nothing to do with yours and I think mine is correct: 16x means 16 shots in the inner ten at the center of the target. ISSF 10 meter air pistol#Range and target says: "There is also an inner ten ring, but the number of inner tens is only used for tie-breaking." File:10 meter air pistol target.svg has a second smaller circle inside the unnumbered ten circle. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:09, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if you are correct, but I am doubting my analysis -- can't figure out how to get '16x' (and similar from OP's link) using the table and formulas relating to "factor of the level of competition" (but there is a t=time factor). At any rate, its not explained clearly. 107.15.157.44 (talk) 20:54, 2 September 2018 (UTC) ←[aka:2606:A000:...]
- My post was a reply to Leonprimer and not to you. My guess has nothing to do with yours and I think mine is correct: 16x means 16 shots in the inner ten at the center of the target. ISSF 10 meter air pistol#Range and target says: "There is also an inner ten ring, but the number of inner tens is only used for tie-breaking." File:10 meter air pistol target.svg has a second smaller circle inside the unnumbered ten circle. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:09, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- If I read the somewhat abstruse scoring correctly, the 'x' is used for determining points for world ranking. I.e: (score) x (factor) = points; in this case: 385 x 16 = 6160 points. 2606:A000:1126:4CA:0:98F2:CFF6:1782 (talk) 16:09, 2 September 2018 (UTC) ... To clarify: the "factor of the level of competition" would be greater for world championship competition (16x) than, say regionals, which would have a lower factor number.
PrimeHunter, you are right. I was thinking, the 'x' means the number of tens, and when I counted it in the results photos, it was wrong. But when I count it only in the innermost circle, it is correct. Thank you. Leonprimer (talk) 17:14, 3 September 2018 (UTC)