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June 10

NHL goal dislodged

If the physical goal net is dislodged during a National Hockey League game, is it possible to score a goal before someone puts it back, and if so, under what conditions? Goal (ice hockey) makes a blanket claim that no goal can be scored when the goal net is out of place, but no ruleset is specified, and this video discusses the circumstances in which such a situation is scored as a goal in the NCAA, so I don't trust our article. I can't find anything on NHL rules; doesn't help that I know almost nothing of hockey in general. Nyttend (talk) 01:30, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In general, when the cage is dislodged, the official will immediately blow the whistle and stop the play. I'll see if I can locate any exceptions... Yes, the rule is that if a defensive player's action results in knocking the goal off its moorings while the attacker is attempting a shot, the goal can count. Here[1] is a detailed discussion which may leave your head swimming if you're not a fan, but it's a pretty thorough explanation... And it squares with the video you linked... And by the way, you're right - the article has it wrong. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:05, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's worth pointing out that in the old days, the cage was secured by a couple of small pipes embedded in the ice. For safety reasons, they were replaced by a much lower profile pair of moorings. So the net becomes dislodged rather more frequently now than it used to. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:21, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The NHL rule book is here. Finding the relevant provisions by searching in the PDF is tricky because different words are used to describe the same thing, but I see a direct contradiction between two rules. Rule 78.5(x) specifies that an apparent goal "shall be disallowed by the Referee" when the net becomes displaced accidentally; yet Rule 63.6 specifies that if it's displaced either accidentally or deliberately by a defending player after the puck is shot or while the puck is being shot, and otherwise the puck would have entered the net, then "the Referee may award a goal" after all. Some other situations are covered in Rule 63.2 on delay-of-game penalties, even though accidentally displacing the net is not cause for a penalty. --69.159.60.83 (talk) 07:58, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]