Wikipedia:Peer review/Sasuke Uchiha/archive1

Sasuke Uchiha

I've listed this article for peer review because there has been a major overhaul during 2017 leading to a possible FA nomination in the next year. A lot of real world information was added to the article, including information from scholars who analyzed the series. Creation, drafts and comments from the voice actors were added to the article while the in-universe information was trimmed to avoid fancruft and look more like recent FA Naruto Uzumaki. Since my English is not my first language, the guild of English copyeditors has revised this article twice while newcomer editor @Flowerpiep: has also been editing the article so this is more like a dual request.

I would like to get opinions from some talented editors like @ProtoDrake:, @1989:, @PresN:, @Brianboulton:, @Aoba47:, @Mike Christie: among others due to their great contributions towards articles.

Still, we are in holidays season, so feel don't take feel like replying so quickly. Have a Merry Christmas and good New Year. Thanks, Tintor2 (talk) 20:39, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Comments from Aoba47

• The “Media data and Non-free use rationale” box for the infobox image needs to be completed.
• I would include the creator (i.e. Masashi Kishimoto) in the infobox.
• The following is more of a stylistic suggestion so feel free to ignore it. For this part (a notorious, powerful extended ninja family), I would change “notorious, powerful” to “notorious and powerful” as it sounds more natural to me than the current construction.
• For this part (allied to the village of Konohagakure), I would change “allied to” to “allied with”.
• I was a little confused by this sentence (Sasuke's focus was originally to avenge the destruction of his clan by killing his brother, but he later tries to be empathetic to his teammates (particularly Naruto Uzumaki, whom he eventually considers a friend) as it seems to imply that his thirst for revenge was replaced by his companionship with his teammates. I am not sure how these two ideas connect with one another. Could you make this clearer, especially for someone who has never read or watched anything from this particular franchise?
• For this sentence “Sasuke was conceived as a rival of the series' title character, Naruto Uzumaki.”, I would clarify who conceived the character.
• This sentence (Despite Sasuke's dark character development later in the story, Kishimoto avoided making him evil.) reads weirdly. Kishimoto definitely choose to not make him evil so the idea of this being like an accident or something along those lines seems off. I would revise the sentence to the following (While Kishimoto developed Sasuke as a darker character later in the story, he avoided portraying the character as a villain.)
• For this sentence (Although Sasuke's design challenged Kishimoto as he drew the manga, he has grown to enjoy drawing him), I would specify what aspect of the design was challenging if it is known.
• You are missing a verb at the beginning of this part (and he has been seen as a stereotypical rival in the mold of similar characters in other shōnen manga).
• For the caption (Despite difficulty designing him, Kishimoto came to enjoy drawing Sasuke and aimed to make him appealing in this Part II design.), I would specify how he choose to make the character appealing and what he found difficult with the design.
• Please add a citation for the image in the “Development” subsection.
• I would use Sasuke’s full name when you first introduce him in the body of the article. Same goes for the author.
• Please link people and characters and concepts that you use for the first time in the body of the article. They need to be linked again here as the body of the article is treated separately from the lead (i.e. Naruto, Naruto Uzumaki, Kishimoto, etc.)
• Could you clarify what you mean by “Part II”. I am not sure what this means exactly. Would a link be helpful here? Same comments applies to “Part I”.
• The phrase “Team 7” is unclear in this part (before the formation of Team 7 (when Naruto had just become a ninja) so it is pretty confusing for someone unfamiliar with the franchise.
• The “Media data and Non-free use rationale” box for the sketch image needs to be completed.
• Sarada Uchiha should be linked.
• I am not sure if the "even sharper” quote is necessary; I feel that you can paraphrase this.
• Please link IGN on its first use.
• For this part (In the book The Rough Guide to Manga, Jason S. Yadao states that while Sasuke and Sakura's characters), change “states” to “stated”.
• For this part (Amy McNulty of ANN also praised their final fight, despite finding Sasuke unlikable in that scene. Chris Beveridge of the Fandom Post praised Sasuke's decision to protect Konohagakure,), please avoid the repetition of “praised” in such close proximity. The same comment applies for these two sentences (In a later review, McNulty praised a scene in which Sasuke admits his crimes and agrees to go to prison, since it indicated an acceptance of responsibility for his misdeeds. McNulty also praised Sasuke's later journey of self-redemption and his decision to respond to Sakura's feelings before leaving).
• I would ask other reviewers to pay for comments on the “Critical response” subsection. The context and images are great, but I would see if I could get any feedback on how to better structure it and make it flow from topic to topic seamlessly. Reception sections notoriously attract a lot of criticism during FACs so I would recommend making sure everything is as strong as it can be. I think it looks fine now, but I just wanted to let you know for the future.

Wonderful work with this article. If possible, I would greatly appreciate it if you could look through my FAC. Either way, have a wonderful rest of your day or night. Aoba47 (talk) 06:20, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the all the comments. I tried revising everything you said about the prose. I also tried revising the images' but I don't know what you mean. Could you show me an example?Tintor2 (talk) 15:59, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Comments by TheJoebro64

I'll be posting some comments in a bit. JOEBRO64 22:23, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

• Manga, anime, and video-game publications and related media have praised and criticized the character - could you just say he's gotten a "mixed" reception?
• but echoed IGN's assessment of his "emo" personality - IGN's commentary about him being "emo" isn't mentioned before.
• I'd italicize all the websites, per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Titles#Major works.

That's all I found. Good work. JOEBRO64 22:23, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments.Tintor2 (talk) 01:20, 12 January 2018 (UTC)