Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Arts

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The portal was promoted by OhanaUnited 03:18, 2 April 2012 [1].

Portal:Arts

Notified: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Theatre, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Arts, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Philosophy, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Architecture, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Books, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Dance, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Horror, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Literature, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Poetry, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Visual arts, User talk:Cirt. — Cirt (talk) 20:08, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Self-nomination. See archived peer review. I believe the portal meets the standards for Featured Portal status. Thank you for your time, — Cirt (talk) 20:08, 25 February 2012 (UTC) [reply]

Comments by ELEKHH (resolved)

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Comment Nice to see so much improvement! My comments:
- maybe the Featured Article section could provide a more global view. Currently is US/UK heavy (12 of 20).
- maybe the Featured Picture section could provide a more global view. Currently is somewhat America heavy (11 of 20). Not clear why the 15 has been included, as does not lead to an art article, nor does it appear to represent art.
- many of the quotes have poor images (for instance File:Ani DiFranco concert.jpg, File:Robert Redford 2005.jpg), wonder if wouldn't be better not to have images at all in that section.
- the subportals section looks like a dog's breakfast. First I'm not sure if Radio, Technology or Video games really belong there. Second, the icons used are all of different style (BW icons, colour graphs, images). Would be nice if it could be more consistent for instance by using P icons or similar style wherever possible.

Hope this helps. --ELEKHH^T 21:07, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for the comments. I'll look this over in more depth and give a response soon. ;) — Cirt (talk) 21:26, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Responses to comments by Elekhh

Done. I've gone ahead and added ten (10) more selections to the Featured Article section. All are non-US/UK.
Done. Also I've added ten (10) additional selections to the Featured Picture section. All are non-US/UK.
Done. Swapped out the picture at Portal:Arts/Featured picture/15. Changed it to an arts-relevant picture with link to an arts-relevant article. Note that page was also replaced with non-US/UK selection.
Done. Replaced images for quotes by Ani DiFranco and Robert Redford. You'd have to give more specific suggestions about other ones, but many featured portals have pictures to go along with quotes.
The subportals section uses template {{Related portals2}}, now standard at many other featured portals. The images for the icons are selected using the same images as template {{Portal}}. As this process is not related to this specific portal, it's not really relevant to this particular discussion.

Thanks very much for the helpful suggestions! — Cirt (talk) 00:00, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Responses to 2nd round of comments by Elekhh

Fantastic! Few more things:

Abbas Kiarostami at FA22 would probably fit better as biography.
When illustrating biographies, if possible would select images of the subject person (see FB14, FB16), so that visually there is a clear distinction to selected articles. --ELEKHH^T 13:35, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. As suggested by Elekhh (talk · contribs), moved Abbas Kiarostami to biography section.
Done. I've replaced images in selected biographies to match the subjects described therein.

This starts to look pretty good. Few more minor questions/ comments.
- Martial arts is listed as a related WikiProject although neither WikiProject Art nor WikiProject Martial arts state that would be related.
- In the FA section, Malagasy cuisine seems to be more in scope of Portal:Culture than Arts.
- The News section currently seems to rely on Wikinews only, which has very poor coverage of arts. It would be great if it would be possible to simply add items to that section, and there would be clear instructions regarding how to do that.

Sorry for my patchy postings, should have given more comprehensive feedback from the start. --ELEKHH^T 02:41, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Responses to 3rd round of comments by Elekhh

Done. I've removed Martial arts from listing as related WikiProject.
Done. I've swapped out Malagasy cuisine, removed it.
The News section does rely on Wikinews through the wonderful feature, Wikinews Importer Bot (talk · contribs). The issue would simply be to tag more articles in the appropriate categories, over at Wikinews, we have plenty of articles on the subject matter. :)

Thank you for your additional helpful suggestions, — Cirt (talk) 03:39, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid there aren't that many art related news on Wikinews left untagged. Regardless of this FPC, I would find it beneficial to be able to add art news manually. --ELEKHH^T 04:11, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, both can work as options in the future going forwards. :) — Cirt (talk) 04:29, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Northamerica1000 (resolved)

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Comment - The lead section could use some expansion, to provide more context and a more comprehensive summary for the portal. Northamerica1000^(talk) 13:16, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for this suggestion, I've expanded the lead section with info from its parent article. — Cirt (talk) 17:29, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support meets current standard of Featured Portals, after great improvements made in the past months. --ELEKHH^T 04:11, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support - A well-polished, extensive portal loaded with high-relevance content. This portal clearly meets Wikipedia:Featured portal criteria. Factors contributing to this support vote include the portal's:

30 featured articles
30 featured pictures
22 featured biographies
20 did you know entries, with three listed per entry

Selected anniversaries section, a feature that many portals lack
20 featured audio selections, another feature lacking in many portals
20 selected quotes

—Northamerica1000^(talk) 14:55, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! :) — Cirt (talk) 15:02, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Voceditenore (resolved)

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Comment The "In this month" section is not a balanced view of the Arts. It's seriously skewed to opera. March, May, July, and September are entirely devoted to opera, and the remaining months are heavily theatre oriented, with very little or nothing on the non-theatrically related visual or literary arts. Possibly because Portal:Opera and Portal:Theatre are currently the only ones with "In this month" sections? I'd suggest a much more representative sample of all the arts for each month, minimally one from music, one from literary arts, one from the visual arts, one from theatrical arts. All broadly construed, but not duplicative/overlapping in any one month. For example, if you list something ballet related, then the music entry should be completely unrelated to ballet. If you list something to do with a theatre, then the visual arts (architecture) entry should not be theatre related. If you list something to do with a play, then the literary arts anniversary should be unrelated to the theatre. Etc. Voceditenore (talk) 15:19, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Reply: Okay thanks for this helpful comment. I'll get on addressing this soon. Any help would of course be appreciated. ;) — Cirt (talk) 15:20, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I can help out on this, but probably not for a couple of days. Voceditenore (talk) 15:27, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, no worries, either way, I'll try to get on it myself as well. :) — Cirt (talk) 15:48, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've finished re-jigging this section to give a more balanced selection of articles in terms of historical period, gender, nationality, and art form for each month. Personally, I think each month could do with at least 5 entries rather than 4 to give greater variety and highlight more articles. (Portal:Theatre has 5 entries per month and Portal:Opera has 8). I'm going to go ahead and add one more to each month. If that's not appropriate, just revert and drop me a note. (I've finished. See Portal:Arts/Selected anniversaries. There are now 5 for each month. Voceditenore (talk) 16:34, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much! I agree with those helpful improvements, — Cirt (talk) 17:02, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support I think it meets all the criteria now for a featured portal. Voceditenore (talk) 16:34, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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