Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Operation Desert Storm
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- Reason
- Clear, accurate map that shows complex troop movements during a critical phase of Operation Desert Storm.
- Articles this image appears in
- Gulf War
- Creator
- US Army, vectored by Jeff Dahl
- Support as nominator Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 04:26, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. I find the mix of unit insignias and national flags odd. It's interesting from a grognard perspective, but confusing-- U.S. military units are not expressly identified as such; and not all of the symbols used on the map are explained in the legend. Is there any available information about the pre-attack positioning of Iraqi forces? Spikebrennan (talk) 15:09, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- I found a map showing Iraqi forces and added the information to this map in an alternate. I'll fix the legends in both. I thought the flag/unit icons were self explanatory, but I'll consider suggestions. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 21:08, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- Edit 1 is certainly an improvement. I would suggest replacing the flags/U.S. Army division insignia with APP-6A markers like you did for the Iraqi forces. Also, I don't think that the meaning of the green tint of some of the land near the Tigris is explained in the "Elevation in Feet" bar in the legend. Spikebrennan (talk) 14:13, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
- Strong support gppande This is a awesome map created by the author with all the minute details properly shown. Wikipedia needs more good quality maps like this and map makers like this author. I know a lot of effort must have gone in making this. —Preceding comment was added at 08:10, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. Can a more specific tag instead of the blue 'Coalition forces' in JFC-N go there? Surely it's possible now to identify who it was (Egyptians, if memory serves, or that may be the green box next door), and correct a bit of our systematic bias by identifying the formations involved. Buckshot06 (talk) 20:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- The green (Saudi) flag represents the Saudi led forces, including Saudi/Kuwaiti task forces. Yes, the blue coalition banner includes two Egyptian divisions making up much of the force, and Syrian forces (which did not advance with the rest of the coalition). Since the Syrians did not advance, it makes sense to split it out. I'll upload a new version shortly. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 02:59, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, looks better now. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment Great job Jeff. I think the legend needs information about the different kinds of arrows, for instance the 101st Airborne and the French movement west of As Salman. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 09:12, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'd be a little wary about adding too much. It would need to be referenced. As of now this map is deemed reliable because it is from a government made map but if it is changed sources will need to be provided which might be difficult. gren グレン 19:58, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks everyone. I checked an army field manual (101-5-1) which confirms the 101st Airborne arrow represents troop movements by an airborne unit. The normal arrows are for ground troops. The same field manual says the double headed arrows for the French and 3d ACR are for security forces. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 22:30, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
- This information should be on the image page if it's not in the image itself. Other than that I'd say it was close to perfect. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 01:23, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
- Added to image description page. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 17:12, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- This information should be on the image page if it's not in the image itself. Other than that I'd say it was close to perfect. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 01:23, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks everyone. I checked an army field manual (101-5-1) which confirms the 101st Airborne arrow represents troop movements by an airborne unit. The normal arrows are for ground troops. The same field manual says the double headed arrows for the French and 3d ACR are for security forces. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 22:30, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'd be a little wary about adding too much. It would need to be referenced. As of now this map is deemed reliable because it is from a government made map but if it is changed sources will need to be provided which might be difficult. gren グレン 19:58, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
- Support, nice job. gren グレン 19:58, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Promoted Image:DesertStormMap v2.svg ("close to perfect" == support, thus quorum met) MER-C 08:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)