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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 20:03, 27 July 2024 (UTC) [1].[reply]

United States congressional delegations from Arizona

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United States congressional delegations from Arizona (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Staraction (talk | contribs) 15:59, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Second congressional delegations nomination from me, the first being United States congressional delegations from Connecticut! Other featured lists in this vein include Utah, Indiana, and Hawaii. Lots of what I've written is of the same style as the Connecticut article. Thanks for taking a look, and I appreciate any and all feedback y'all give! Staraction (talk | contribs) 15:59, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • "Each state elects two senators to serve for six years, and varying members of the House" - obviously each state elects varying members, they don't all elect the same ones. I think what you mean is "Each state elects two senators to serve for six years, and varying numbers of members of the House"
  • "The current dean, or longest serving member, of the Arizona delegation is" => "The current dean, or longest serving member, of the Arizona delegation, is"
  • "of its two senators, one Democrat and one independent, and its nine representatives: 6 Republicans and 3 Democrats." - odd that you write all the numbers as words and then suddenly switch to digits at the end......
  • "Of those, Martha McSally and Kyrsten Sinema have been the first and only women" - I think "the only women" would suffice, as if they are the only ones than by definition they were also the first
  • "such that each election, around one-third of the seats in the Senate are up for election" => "such that at each election around one-third of the seats in the Senate are up for election"
  • "Following 1940 census" => "Following the 1940 census"
  • "Following 1960 census" => "Following the 1960 census" (and so on for all the others)
  • That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi! Thanks for your feedback! I've done everything except for the second bullet point. Wouldn't "or longest serving member" be a parenthetical clause; thus removing it leaves "The current dean of the Arizona delegation is" vs. "The current dean of the Arizona delegation, is"? I feel like the first option makes more grammatical sense. Let me know if I'm missing something or if there's more. Thanks again for reviewing! Staraction (talk | contribs) 04:10, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah, ignore that one, I don't know what I was thinking there. One thing I didn't pick up on before, though: "Seven women have served Arizona in the House, including Kyrsten Sinema and Martha McSally, who are the only women who have served Arizona in the Senate" - doesn't that sentence contradict itself? Seven women have served in the House, including two who served in the Senate? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:36, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It was a little bit weird to phrase and I don't think it came out properly. Sinema and McSally both served in the House prior to serving in the Senate, and they are the only women to have ever served in the Senate. Is there a better way to phrase that? Thanks! Staraction (talk | contribs) 14:02, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:44, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


MPGuy2824
  • "The first woman to serve Arizona in the Senate was Isabella Greenway." - House of Representatives, not Senate.
  • the current senator table is missing colscopes. Also its first header needs to be made into a table caption
  • In the full senate table, you don't need to bold the Congress since that is a header cell in every row. This should be checked for the other tables as well.
  • There is also no need of setting the height. The height anyway expands to more than 2em when there is less space. This probably holds true for other tables as well. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @MPGuy2824 Hi, thanks for your feedback! All should be fixed. Staraction (talk | contribs) 03:30, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Support on prose and table accessibility. I fixed a few minor accessibility issues in some of the tables. You can keep those in mind when you prep your next FL. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:26, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @MPGuy2824 @Staraction Sorry, I reverted these edits because the table wasn't displaying terms right. In my experience the 2ems are needed because otherwise mid-term changes don't show correctly, though I don't know if there's a better way to fix them. I'll put the other changes back once I have more time though. Emk9 (talk) 20:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support

Some suggestions...

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  • "the Cook Partisan Voting Index, a determination of how strongly partisan a state is" -> recommend replacing "determination" with "measure"
  • "14 people have served as a U.S. Senator from Arizona." -> Could expand this to say "Since its first congressional delegation in 1913, 14 people have served as a U.S. Senator for Arizona" (make sure to also copy the citation from the lead for the 1913 claim)
  • "rotating through each class such that [in] each election[,] around one-third of the seats in the Senate are up for election" <- add in the stuff in the brackets
  • "One member of the House of Representatives is sent from each district via a popular vote." -> this should be reworded (ex: "Each district uses a popular vote to elect a member of Arizona's delegation in the House of Representatives.")
  • "Arizona has had nine congressional districts since districts were redrawn in 2013 as a result of the 2010 United States Census." -> this should be reworded (ex: "Since its districts were redrawn in 2013 according to the results of the 2010 census, Arizona has had nine congressional districts")
  • "For six years, the seats were elected at-large statewide on a general ticket." <- doesn't at-large and statewide mean the same thing? (recommend taking out at-large if possible or rewording for concision)
  • 1912–1943: 1 seat, 1943–1963: 2 seats, 1963–1973: 3 seats, 1973–1983: 4 seats, 1983–1993: 5 seats, 1993–2003: 6 seats, 2003–2013: 8 seats, & 2013–present: 9 seats <- make sure all the prose-text in those subsections have in-line references
  • All the tables under the United States House of Representatives section are missing refs and should have some sort of ref/citation added either in the column/row headers or as a table footnote
  • For the 2022 U.S. representatives from Arizona table, the "Incumbent since" column should have a ref in the header if possible (like CPVI (2022) header next to it already does)
  • "Arizona's current congressional delegation in the 118th Congress consists of its two senators, one Democrat and one independent, and its nine representatives, six Republicans and three Democrats." should also have an in-line ref
  • "Senator Kyl was appointed by governor Doug Ducey to fill the seat of John McCain, who died in office." -> recommend rewording to "Senator Kyl was appointed by governor Doug Ducey to fill the seat of John McCain after McCain's death in office."
  • Not completely sure whether this is required per MOS:DTAB but I'd recommend adding |+{{sronly|}} for each of the tables (this template is used by screenreaders as a sort of title/caption for the table to my knowledge)
  • Just a thought but I feel like this sort of list would benefit from a brief infobox where the current map & caption are kept and additional basic info (e.g. year of first delegation, current number of districts (as of which census), numerical party control/distribution of the delegation, dean of the delegation, etc.)

I'm not particularly familiar with these types of lists so not sure what's considered standard or not but I'd strongly recommend adding at least some refs to the tables imo. Otherwise, this is a great list for a great state! :) Many thanks Staraction for nominating this! Please ping on reply if needed. Cheers, Dan the Animator 22:48, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like most of the suggestions were applied and after taking another quick read through of the page and making one very minor edit, I think it's ready to be promoted. Support for FL status and thanks Staraction for the quick followup! Dan the Animator 20:31, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thanks for the comments & the fast response! I was unable to reply to you yesterday before I had to attend to something important in real life but your comments are very appreciated :D Staraction (talk | contribs) 00:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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EN-Jungwon
  • Archive all references
  • Ref 1, 6, 12news.com → 12News
  • Ref 16 add date July 12, 2022
  • Ref 33 requires subscription
  • Ref 38 link author Alden Whitman
  • Ref 39 add via=Newspapers.com
  • Ref 41 requires subscription, link author Nicholas Fandos
  • Link websites for the following. If you don't want to link the same article in multiple sources you don't have to. For example "Ref 8, 10, 22, 23 link United States Senate" you can just link the first instance which would be ref 8. I'm fine with it either way.
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  • Copyvios shows no major issues.

-- EN-Jungwon 14:59, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thank you so much for the review! I believe I've fixed all the issues you've pointed out; if there are more please let me know! Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:15, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@EN-Jungwon pinging for convenience! Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:21, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- EN-Jungwon 08:03, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted. --PresN 14:37, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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