Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Seinfeld (season 2)/archive3

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 19:13, 21 September 2009 [1].

Seinfeld (season 2)

Nominator(s): --Music26/11 16:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it meets the Featured List criteria. Thanks.--Music26/11 16:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Cheetah (talk)

Comments
- "Julia Louis-Dreyfus stated..." - who's Julia Louis-Dreyfus?
- "According to Alexander..." - who's Alexander?
- "Richards was concerned..." - who's Richards?
- The "cast" section should be placed before the "The Bet" section to answer the aforementioned questions.

Moved the cast section above the production section.--Music26/11 15:36, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- Sony Pictures → Sony Pictures Digital

Done.--Music26/11 15:36, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- Why not link TBS?

Done.--Music26/11 15:36, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- "Retrieved August 6, 2009" → "Retrieved on August 6, 2009"
  - This is a quirk of the cite templates that for some reason has been present for some weeks now. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:11, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - Oh, I thought these refs were done manually.--Cheetah (talk) 04:43, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- "Sony Pictures Home Entertainment" OR "Sony Pictures Home Entertainment" - Pick one!

Linked the first mention.--Music26/11 15:36, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- What's the page number of the The Dallas Morning News article?
  - Unavailable.--Music26/11 15:36, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - There should either be a link or a page number.--Cheetah (talk) 03:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      - Doing... Dabomb87 (talk) 17:41, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        Done. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:16, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- What's the page number of the Sacramento Bee's article?
  - Unavailable.--Music26/11 15:36, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - Page number added. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:41, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - There should either be a link or a page number.--Cheetah (talk) 03:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Why mention the city and state of some newspapers?
  - I sometimes do that, does it mattter?.--Music26/11 15:36, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - It looks picky. It's also not important enough to be mentioned.--Cheetah (talk) 03:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - If you strongly prefer to have the city, state info, then add it to all newspapers.--Cheetah (talk) 19:15, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removed.--Music26/11 16:50, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- Why are Amazon and EzyDVD reliable? Just because they're the only sites that have the info?
  - It seems like a lame excuse, but there just aren't that much more reliable refs that mention the DVD region code of a DVD (boxset) other than Region 1 (as I mentioned in the second FLC, this discussion also regards this).--Music26/11 15:36, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - The info should be removed until found in reliable sources.--Cheetah (talk) 03:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

--Cheetah (talk) 02:56, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done.--Music26/11 16:50, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support I can see that it's the 3rd nomination; not much wrong with this list.--Cheetah (talk) 03:03, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Since the Season list has been significantly expanded the lead needs one more paragraph. Maybe one about the general plot of the season...--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 23:30, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there usually isn't a main storyline, each episode deals with a different situation. There's really not much I can think of that should be put in the lead.--Music26/11 09:30, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

~~Comments~~ Support WOW this FLC has been quiet. One comment, could the DVD section have some more info on the sales? It mentions the pre-sales, but that's it. Staxringold _talk^contribs 04:18, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, really quiet, but hey. I understand your request for DVD sales info, but I just don't know where to look for that sort of information. Diaa asked for it during the previous FLC, so I browsed around in Google News, but I couldn't find anything. I've also looked at some other FLs, but none of them had sales information.--Music26/11 08:46, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair nuff. Though, a quick Google found this. Whatever. Staxringold _talk^contribs 14:42, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

~~Oppose~~ Support

Please add the information about 4 million DVDs from the source by Staxringold. Staxringold if you have more sources please put them forward. This is about comprehensiveness.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 19:15, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The lead is ~~awful~~ not nice and by no some means not Feature quality. Please expand it. At least three 6 line paragraphs should be made for the lead. You can do this by summarizing each section with a paragraph. Do this and you would have a 4-6 paragraph lead. The lead as it currently stand doesn't qualify the list for featured status.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 19:15, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have no more sources, that was just a quick Google. As for the lead, "awful" is pretty harsh. 30 Rock seasons 1 and 2 have similar leads and are featured, and I'm working off that template for 30 Rock season 3. If you want a different template, The Simpsons (season 8) also has a similar lead, just with a mention of the awards won for that season (worth including if you want). Staxringold _talk^contribs 20:23, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't mean to be over criticizing. I used to support this list in the previous nomination but now the lead is just too short to be called a FQ lead. It doesn't really summarize or give an overview of the subject. I'm just saying that a list as comprehensive and big as that needs a longer lead with info from each section.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 20:31, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How about now?--Music26/11 22:44, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It looks much better now. Thanks for the expansion.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 04:45, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problemo!--Music26/11 10:43, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support After copy-editing the episode summaries a month ago, and after the nominator's improvements in response to reviewers' comments at this FLC, I believe this list meets the FL criteria. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:11, 22 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:11, 22 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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